Political Satire: The Old Man of the Mountain (-1)

Ralph47 · Apr 26, 2018

reedak said:
Knock of the lies and disinformation. I will report you for your lies and for putting words into my mouth.

Your head is not only like that of a cemetery statue, you also behave like a robot, keep repeating all your old nonsense in your posts.

Time to REPORT this misfit!!!

reedak · Apr 26, 2018

Ralph47 said:
When in engineering on gov't contracts, we used to say "close enough (or good enough) for government work".

Well said, dude. Your buddy is not satisfied with my "intelligent guesses" which are "close enough (or good enough)" for the possible outcome of some future events. Instead, he demands "specific numbers" that can zero on the outcome of future events as though I were the Almighty God.

Here I wish to cite arcturus88's example of a "strong and more magnificent prediction" in his thread entitled http://politicalfray.com/current-events/7431-predictions-2018-a-4.html

"On October 18, 2018, Kim Kardashion will choke on a piece of sushi and fall into a coma and die."

Perhaps one day I shall try my best to have "divine communication" with the "Super Being" in order to predict to the closest second the exact date and time your buddy will say goodbye to everybody on earth.

reedak · Apr 26, 2018

Ralph47 said:
Time to REPORT this misfit!!!

Stop misbehaving like this misfit, otherwise I report you too.

Ralph47 · Apr 26, 2018

reedak said:
Stop misbehaving like this misfit, otherwise I report you too.

Well then there now.

reedak · Apr 26, 2018

mcstites said:
In the Air force, I was an aviation weather forecaster among other things. We called it "forecasting", "prognosticating", "predicting" and occasionally "WAGs" (Wild Ass Guesses). Whatever we called it, the intent was the same. We were trying to look in the future and provide a picture of what would happen at a specific time in the future. Our forecasts were always specific enough that they could be verified when some sort of tolerance was applied. Generally, our tolerance were along operational lines. For example, below minimums, IFR and VFR. The forecast was either a hit or a miss.

I wish to cite arcturus88's comment about your oft-contradicting remarks in his thread entitled http://politicalfray.com/current-events/7431-predictions-2018-a-4.html

"that is certainly a paradox then...

you have posted multiple times on this and other threads that you supposedly lacked interest."

Time and again you have revealed your confused mind by contradicting yourself. For instance, on the one hand, you began your post with a roar by talking about "providing a picture of what would happen at a specific time in the future". On the other hand, you ended your post with a whimper by admitting "The forecast was either a hit or a miss".

Ralph47 · Apr 27, 2018

reedak said:
I wish to cite arcturus88's comment about your oft-contradicting remarks in his thread entitled http://politicalfray.com/current-events/7431-predictions-2018-a-4.html

"that is certainly a paradox then...

you have posted multiple times on this and other threads that you supposedly lacked interest."

Time and again you have revealed your confused mind by contradicting yourself. For instance, on the one hand, you began your post with a roar by talking about "providing a picture of what would happen at a specific time in the future". On the other hand, you ended your post with a whimper by admitting "The forecast was either a hit or a miss".

mcstites · Apr 27, 2018

reedak said:
I wish to cite arcturus88's comment about your oft-contradicting remarks in his thread entitled http://politicalfray.com/current-events/7431-predictions-2018-a-4.html

"that is certainly a paradox then...

you have posted multiple times on this and other threads that you supposedly lacked interest."

Time and again you have revealed your confused mind by contradicting yourself. For instance, on the one hand, you began your post with a roar by talking about "providing a picture of what would happen at a specific time in the future". On the other hand, you ended your post with a whimper by admitting "The forecast was either a hit or a miss".

I am not sure why I bother since you seem to be more determined to misinterpret my comments than to have a meaningful conversation. But, I will try to make this as concise and clear as possible.

I expressed lack of interest in your Old Man and the Mountain. My other comments had nothing to do with this subject. In general, I was replying to comments which you made to me.

At some point you bragged about a prediction/intelligent guess you had made and made another prediction. Your first prediction was too vague to say whether it had been fulfilled or not. I expressed my opinion about the new prediction. It was too vague to be able to say whether it was accurate or not. I asked for more specific intelligent guesses so that verification would be possible.

You said "On the other hand, you ended your post with a whimper by admitting "The forecast was either a hit or a miss". When we made a forecast, we verified whether it was a good forecast. The verification was set up so that it was either a hit or a miss. Not "close enough" or some other vague term.

Long ago, even before my career in the Air Force and as an engineer in the aerospace industry, I learned that insults added nothing to a discussion. The discussion usually degenerated into trading insults rather than a meaningful conversation. I consider insults childish and try to cut them off early. I did report you. Whether they choose to do something about it is another matter.

arcturus88 · Apr 27, 2018

I did report you. Whether they choose to do something about it is another matter.

Sorry. there is no one steering the ship. If there were tecoyah would have been banned long ago and ralph would have been warned about posting excessive pics.

That said, I will pretend to be admin for you and tell you that I don't see any real insult by reedak.

its just banter, man.

mcstites · Apr 27, 2018

arcturus88 said:
Sorry. there is no one steering the ship. If there were tecoyah would have been banned long ago and ralph would have been warned about posting excessive pics.

That said, I will pretend to be admin for you and tell you that I don't see any real insult by reedak.

its just banter, man.

"Your head is not only like that of a cemetery statue, you also behave like a robot, keep repeating all your old nonsense in your posts."*

"Your head is like those of the cemetery statues. No matter how many times I repeat my words, they can never enter your head "

"Time and again you have revealed your confused mind by contradicting yourself.*"

I call them insults and if I had used them in any meeting while in the Air Force or in industry, I would have been told to leave.

Ralph47 · Apr 27, 2018

I think reedak is merely being hyperbolic and doesn't mean harm.

arcturus88 · Apr 27, 2018

mcstites said:
"Your head is not only like that of a cemetery statue, you also behave like a robot, keep repeating all your old nonsense in your posts."*

"Your head is like those of the cemetery statues. No matter how many times I repeat my words, they can never enter your head "

"Time and again you have revealed your confused mind by contradicting yourself.*"

I call them insults and if I had used them in any meeting while in the Air Force or in industry, I would have been told to leave.

reedak is a man of metaphor and story. he does what he does.

my advice, don't be stuck on winning every debate. don't carry an argument from one thread into another. Stick to the content of what a person posted and most of all don't take any of this forum stuff too seriously.

military and industry are serious places. this...not so much.

Ralph47 · Apr 27, 2018

Ralph47 said:
I think reedak is merely being hyperbolic and doesn't mean harm.

Much like TRUMP!

mcstites · Apr 27, 2018

arcturus88 said:
reedak is a man of metaphor and story. he does what he does.

my advice, don't be stuck on winning every debate. don't carry an argument from one thread into another. Stick to the content of what a person posted and most of all don't take any of this forum stuff too seriously.

military and industry are serious places. this...not so much.

I have been around this world too long to feel like I have to take crap just because that is the way people are.

I'll just move on. There are other sites which do have someone manning the ship.

arcturus88 · Apr 27, 2018

mcstites said:
I have been around this world too long to feel like I have to take crap just because that is the way people are.

I'll just move on. There are other sites which do have someone manning the ship.

you are welcome here of course. I only wish you would post more.

reedak is a rare poster anyway.
don't let frustration with one member cause you to leave.

reedak · Apr 27, 2018

Ralph47 said:

Shut up, smart ass! Don't try to steal the spotlight from your buddy.

reedak · Apr 27, 2018

mcstites said:
I have been around this world too long to feel like I have to take crap just because that is the way people are.

I'll just move on. There are other sites which do have someone manning the ship.

I have to give credit to your flair for troublemaking as it breathes more life and vitality to my posts. Furthermore, it helps to increase the viewership of my posts as shown in the specific numbers in the brackets below:

When hell breaks loose
(3,255 --> 3,266 -->3,273)

Agong's Fairy Tales
(5,171 --> 5,202 --> 5,208)

Confusionism and "Confucius Say" jokes
(7,785 --> 7,798 -->7,807)

Yogiisms and other humorous quotes
(3,331 --> 3,342 -->3,344)

P.S. I don't mind if you really "don't bother reading" my posts, but please continue criticising them. I shall be much saddened and disappointed without your criticism. Although admittedly your rumpus over my posts is rather annoying, I shall miss you very much when you are no longer around here one day.

reedak · Apr 27, 2018

Ralph47 said:
Much like TRUMP!

Hey dude! I admire your guts for insulting Trump. If Trump has an addiction for "reporting" like your buddy, you will no longer be around here. If he joins in the political fray, the "supernova" will not only outshine your buddy but all of us here.

reedak · Apr 27, 2018

mcstites said:
"Your head is not only like that of a cemetery statue, you also behave like a robot, keep repeating all your old nonsense in your posts."*

"Your head is like those of the cemetery statues. No matter how many times I repeat my words, they can never enter your head "

"Time and again you have revealed your confused mind by contradicting yourself.*"

I call them insults and if I had used them in any meeting while in the Air Force or in industry, I would have been told to leave.

mcstites said:
I don't care what you call them. They are both attempts to portray what will happen in the future. The same logic applies. If you want to claim this amazing ability, then your predictions/intelligent guesses should be specific enough to verify. Otherwise they are worthless.

Smack of arrogance! Either you are really arrogant or my words can never enter your head. (That's why I liken it to that of a cemetery statue.)

No matter how many times I emphasise that I am just making "intelligent guesses", you continue saying "I don't care what you call them" and demanding "specific numbers" as though I were the Almighty God. One fine day if you were lucky enough to go to Heaven you could keep demanding for "specific numbers" all the while. :angel:

mcstites said:
I don't care what you call them. They are both attempts to portray what will happen in the future. The same logic applies. If you want to claim this amazing ability, then your predictions/intelligent guesses should be specific enough to verify. Otherwise they are worthless.

Calling my "intelligent guesses" worthless is a subtle form of insult. I shall report you.

mcstites said:
...If someone is predicting something and claims this amazing ability to correctly predict, then the prediction should be specific enough to verify its correctness. Otherwise the prediction is meaningless and they do not have this amazing ability.

I have never claimed "this amazing ability to correctly predict". You are twisting my words and putting them into my mouth. I shall report you.

reedak · Apr 27, 2018

mcstites said:
...When we made a forecast, we verified whether it was a good forecast....

You are kidding! Either you have been fooling yourself all this while or you are trying to fool others to claim meteorologists can make "good" or "specific" forecasts. As shown in the following article, "predicting the future accurately may remain a distant dream for meteorologists".

According to the explanation given by A.A.K. in his June 19th 2016 article entitled "Why weather forecasts are so often wrong" in "The Economist" at https://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2016/06/economist-explains-10

(Begin excerpts)
METEOROLOGY attracts criticism and jokes like few professions. Sometimes, research supports the humour. One study found that when television meteorologists in Kansas predicted that there was a 100% chance of rain, it didn’t rain at all one-third of the time. And there is much anecdotal evidence for forecasters’ unreliability. In 2009, heavy rains dampened a “barbecue summer” prediction by Britain’s Met office. In January last year American meteorologists apologised profusely on Twitter for predicting a “crippling” and “historic” blizzard that never arrived. Why do weathermen seem to get it wrong so often?

...Conflicting predictive models may offer opposite results: last year, the Indian Meteorological Department predicted a drought whereas Skymet, a private forecaster put its money on normal rainfall. The reality was somewhere in between: a 14% deficit in rainfall. Pinning down the precise location of the event is notoriously difficult too....

...given the cosmic odds, predicting the future accurately may remain a distant dream for meteorologists. (End excerpts)

Ralph47 · Apr 28, 2018

reedak said:
You are kidding! Either you have been fooling yourself all this while or you are trying to fool others to claim meteorologists can make "good" or "specific" forecasts. As shown in the following article, "predicting the future accurately may remain a distant dream for meteorologists".

According to the explanation given by A.A.K. in his June 19th 2016 article entitled "Why weather forecasts are so often wrong" in "The Economist" at https://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2016/06/economist-explains-10

(Begin excerpts)
METEOROLOGY attracts criticism and jokes like few professions. Sometimes, research supports the humour. One study found that when television meteorologists in Kansas predicted that there was a 100% chance of rain, it didn’t rain at all one-third of the time. And there is much anecdotal evidence for forecasters’ unreliability. In 2009, heavy rains dampened a “barbecue summer” prediction by Britain’s Met office. In January last year American meteorologists apologised profusely on Twitter for predicting a “crippling” and “historic” blizzard that never arrived. Why do weathermen seem to get it wrong so often?

...Conflicting predictive models may offer opposite results: last year, the Indian Meteorological Department predicted a drought whereas Skymet, a private forecaster put its money on normal rainfall. The reality was somewhere in between: a 14% deficit in rainfall. Pinning down the precise location of the event is notoriously difficult too....

...given the cosmic odds, predicting the future accurately may remain a distant dream for meteorologists. (End excerpts)

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