President of Snubs

Michelle Obama made things even worse by giving their children toys of Marine One bought from the White House gift shop. I'm actually fairly surprised that none of Obama's advisers even helped with the process. Maybe they were trying to avoid spending extravagently due to economic conditions but the gifts didn't have to be expensive. It's common sense, I agree Obama could have at least put some more thought into it.

Glee said:

(I wonder if he gave France his daughters old Dr. Suess books. The President's yard-sale, everything must go... to other nations). What is your opinion on this?

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ROFLCOPTER! LMFAO, yard sale , everythgin must go, lol.
Personally I think Obama is just playing his part in trying to piss people off so when the day comes where all the leaders (idiots) have their hands on the litlle red buzzers pushing the button won't be so hard.

Also this exchange of gifts is really an exchange of information that the public fail to see (skull and bones/nwo/etc). I mean anything could have been on those discs and we all know how books aren't necesarilly books (safes). Even if they were 'biographies' there could be anything written in there. This whole shenanigans is more than ridiculous, it's ludicrous!

Glee said:

The Prime Minister of England recently visited. It's become sort of a tradition between the US and the UK to give each other gifts. But usually these gifts are supposed to be something that is special to our Nations.

So with in mind Prime Minister Gordon Brown gave President Obama a pen holder made from oak timber from a Navy vessel that rescued slaves ( HMS Gannet), the commissioning paper for the HMS Resolute (which for those who don't know has been a symbol of good-will between our nations), A seven book biographical series, first edition, of Winston Churchill, dresses and matching necklaces for Obama's daughters from the famed Topshop, and six children's books by British authors which haven't been published yet in the U.S.

That was pretty generous. President Barack Obama's gifts were... well they were DVDs. Twenty-Five DVDs. Uh... well in Obama's defense the movies he gave were good movies. I mean he does have some classics such as Casablanca and Lawrence of Arabia in the list. But... well, the Brits have a different method of viewing DVDs than we do... so even if Gordon Brown wanted to see them, he couldn't play them. So yeah.

Also, just to add a bit of salt on the wound, Obama gave back a gift UK officials previously gave President Bush. It was a bronze bust of Winston Churchill, given after the September 11th attacks. Granted the bust was on loan... but British officials wanted Obama to keep it for four more years as a gesture of support for the new President. Obama once again snubbed them and pretty much told them it didn't go with anything else he had.

I mean in a time when the policy of Washington is to start a New Deal like thing world-wide, our President does this to our strongest allies? (I wonder if he gave France his daughters old Dr. Suess books. The President's yard-sale, everything must go... to other nations). What is your opinion on this?

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I guess one can argue this in many ways. One could argue that Brown gave too many gifts. One can definitely argue that Obama slipped up badly in the protocol department and probably needs to fire his protocol advisor. On the other hand, one could also argue that this was a deliberate slight to Brown to cut Brown to size. Think my money is on Obama's inexperience in failing to pay proper attention to protocols and checking in with the protocol advisor. I have a feeling that he trusted that his protocol person would do the right job, and perhaps did not check up that he/she did it. A suitable gift could have included something that is more political significant such as a memorabalia of Abram Lincoln or from the Smithsonian Institute, or a copy of the Declaration of Independence.

Glee said:

I agree. (wait I wrote that already). I think you're right that he personally wasn't at fault but someone in the White House was. He's not a man who likes a bad image about him. I mean if the election taught us anything, he's all about making himself look good. Couldn't say Hussein, couldn't talk about his father, his religion, or his family. So for him to blunder like this on purpose seems highly illogical (when did I become Spock?)

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I can just imagine him after learning about the UK displeasure about it banging his head against the wall .... :shy: ... just joking! One thing is for certain, I'm sure he will learn from his mistakes and that is what counts.

Gifts

I truly always will believe that the best gifts are the ones able to be consumed. I am a strong believer in herbal medicine (Please see the people of the Causcaus mountain region). Those people live to be very old (over 100), and I learned that is where the famous fermented milk product Kefir originates from.

So in continuance with this thought, some of the herbs and healthiest foods in the world can cost just as much as the expensive material goods given as gifts. Why not further physical health as a gift. Nobody can disagree with food, and its the most valuable thing you can offer. Some strains of ginseng are so incredibly expensive, along with saffron, and cardamom, and herbs of this nature.

That would be the best gift I would think, a gift in the form of consumable food, of the utmost highest possible quality.

samkenwick said:

I truly always will believe that the best gifts are the ones able to be consumed. I am a strong believer in herbal medicine (Please see the people of the Causcaus mountain region). Those people live to be very old (over 100), and I learned that is where the famous fermented milk product Kefir originates from.

So in continuance with this thought, some of the herbs and healthiest foods in the world can cost just as much as the expensive material goods given as gifts. Why not further physical health as a gift. Nobody can disagree with food, and its the most valuable thing you can offer. Some strains of ginseng are so incredibly expensive, along with saffron, and cardamom, and herbs of this nature.

That would be the best gift I would think, a gift in the form of consumable food, of the utmost highest possible quality.

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Very good point, but almost equal to this "peace of mind". Think if I can achieve the latter, then that would be awesome. The world that we are living in has become soooo stressful to survive in. We have to compete to find jobs, compete even harder to keep and survive in our jobs. Our children have so much stress at schools and some have to fend for themselves on their own. There are so many wars going on, so many people suffering. But yes, I do like your idea about herbs and kefir. By the way, do you know where one can get the dried granules from :shy:

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