Romney wins Iowa by 8 votes

Patrick · Jan 4, 2012

The real story in Iowa is how Santorum came from nowhere in a couple weeks. Santorum should skip the New Hamphire primary, which is locked up for Romney because of the horde of liberal there, and focus on north carolina.

Meanwhile, Romney remains the candidate who can't win - evangelicals will stay home on election day.

myp · Jan 4, 2012

Patrick said:
The real story in Iowa is how Santorum came from nowhere in a couple weeks. Santorum should skip the New Hamphire primary, which is locked up for Romney because of the horde of liberal there, and focus on north carolina.

Meanwhile, Romney remains the candidate who can't win - evangelicals will stay home on election day.

Santorum's organization is still too non-existent, he has a lot of work to do. I am not really a fan either though.

As for the evangelicals, when push comes to shove they are willing to vote for who or what they think is right as witnessed by the strong support Ron Paul drew from the crowd yesterday.

Carpediem · Jan 4, 2012

Ron Paul is the miracle man not the evangelicals

DodgeFB · Jan 4, 2012

Carpediem said:
Ron Paul is the miracle man not the evangelicals

It would be a "miracle" if he won.

David · Jan 4, 2012

DodgeFB said:
It would be a "miracle" if he won.

No, it'd be the worst thing to happen to us. His idea of reform is so ani-working class had he won in '08 we wouldn't have the TP and Occupy, we'd have a civil war. Unemployment will make people angry, starvation will make people insane.

myp · Jan 4, 2012

David said:
No, it'd be the worst thing to happen to us. His idea of reform is so ani-working class had he won in '08 we wouldn't have the TP and Occupy, we'd have a civil war. Unemployment will make people angry, starvation will make people insane.

He played a major role in the establishment of the TP as is- he was the first to have a "tea party" rally, etc. (back in 2007). As for unemployment and starvation, he clearly believes that his policies would reduce it, so that is not an argument (and it is not as if unemployment is low as is).

Also how is his "reform" (platform?) anti-working class?

DodgeFB · Jan 4, 2012

David said:
No, it'd be the worst thing to happen to us. His idea of reform is so ani-working class had he won in '08 we wouldn't have the TP and Occupy, we'd have a civil war. Unemployment will make people angry, starvation will make people insane.

I do not think he can win as a republican. He could go "rogue" and mess it up for the republican that does win. I hope he does not even try that.

David · Jan 4, 2012

myp said:
He played a major role in the establishment of the TP as is- he was the first to have a "tea party" rally, etc. (back in 2007). As for unemployment and starvation, he clearly believes that his policies would reduce it, so that is not an argument (and it is not as if unemployment is low as is).

Also how is his "reform" (platform?) anti-working class?

Taking away the social safety net thinking charity can cover everyone would leave every unemployed worker without a pay check and without aid to hold them over until they could find new work. I'm not sure how much more ani-working class you can get when you throw millions of starving workers out on the streets.

Whether that's his goal is irrelevant, that would be the result.

myp · Jan 4, 2012

David said:
Taking away the social safety net thinking charity can cover everyone would leave every unemployed worker without a pay check and without aid to hold them over until they could find new work. I'm not sure how much more ani-working class you can get when you throw millions of starving workers out on the streets.

Whether that's his goal is irrelevant, that would be the result.

You can't say that would be the result though. What he wants is a completely different system and that system would mean even variable changes from now. Past situations have suggested that private philanthropy is greatest when government "safety nets" are smallest. That aside, what Paul believes is that his system would significantly reduce the business cycle volatility. That means you might not even have a downturn this bad and long-lasting to begin with.

You also can't say it is anti-working class if it ends up helping the working class in the long run and if it increases social mobility.

Patrick · Jan 4, 2012

myp said:
Santorum's organization is still too non-existent, he has a lot of work to do. I am not really a fan either though.

As for the evangelicals, when push comes to shove they are willing to vote for who or what they think is right as witnessed by the strong support Ron Paul drew from the crowd yesterday.

Paul didn't receive support by the evangelicals - you're making stuff up. Paul's main support, as reported by the lib media, was young people and first time caucus voters. In other words, the naive and uninformed.

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