Ron Paul Is awesome!
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I know the feeling!Just about the time I start nodding my head in agreement with something Ron Paul has said, I'm stopped in my tracks with a "WTF did he just say?" moment. :banghead:
In my opinion, he's taken the "goofball" mantle from Ross Perot...and ran with it.
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Ah, but the leaders are NOT putting on bomb vests. Did bin Laden die in a ball of firey fire - taking 20 or 30 infidels with him? No. He was shot in the face by a Navy Seal - after sitting around in a house in Abbottabad doing pretty much absolutely nothing for the last few years.
You say that "they" have been indoctrinated to hate us . . . and for some reason you assume that they cannot be enlightened?
The reason we are so hated in the Middle East is because they believe that we are responsible for their third-rate standard of living. (A political, not religious beef.) This is not entirely irrational, as the United States has been a significant counterrevolutionary force in the region for some time now.
Indoctrination requires constant reinforcement, or the construct fades. When the leaders are neutralized, it is revealed to the indoctrinated that they have been lied to, and no one wants the truth more than they.
If we were to pursue a more rational foreign policy, we would back off of the Middle East, and convince the people there that we do not seek to control their lives and keep them down . . . and at that point, the terrorist leaders would lose all influence. The people would recognize that the leaders never put on a bomb vest and say,
"Just why exactly are we blowing ourselves up again?"
There is a reason some of those countries keep info. from their people. When all they get is state controlled media they may never know the truth.
I want to make it clear, I don't want a war with anyone. I want most of our forces home. But I am not sure Paul would fight if they hit the Miami beach.
On foreign policy he reminds me of Jimmy Carter. And I don't like to remember Jimmy Carter.
There is a reason some of those countries keep info. from their people. When all they get is state controlled media they may never know the truth.
I want to make it clear, I don't want a war with anyone. I want most of our forces home. But I am not sure Paul would fight if they hit the Miami beach.
On foreign policy he reminds me of Jimmy Carter. And I don't like to remember Jimmy Carter.
Well, it comes down to what kind of retaliation you think is appropriate. When they hit New York, Paul voted to authorize the use of force against the Taliban and Afghanistan (since there was no good way to distinguish the two at the time).
http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Profiles/House/Texas/Ron_Paul/Views/The_War_in_Afghanistan/
I have no doubt that Ron Paul would go after anyone who had actually attacked us. He would get the terrorists, as would I.
Where we differ is in our approach to those that might be affiliated in some way with terrorists. It's kindof like the problem with Communism. Do we isolate them, or engage them to try to reform them?
See I just don't think that would work. They don't want to be "reformed". And it seems we have more people here turning their way than we can turn our way. We really need to lower the boom on the "home grown terrorist".
I mean make an example of them.See I just don't think that would work. They don't want to be "reformed". And it seems we have more people here turning their way than we can turn our way. We really need to lower the boom on the "home grown terrorist".
I think that the people you are talking about (true lunatics) are a very, very small percentage of the population. They are irredeemably dangerous, yes, and we should lock them up or kill them.
But these guys would be totally unable to hurt us in any big way on their own. They need cover and support from a much bigger population of sympathizers. These "secondary" terrorists are not deranged lunatics; they are for the most part politically motivated. They can be reasoned with. If we removed their motivation by adopting a more sensible foreign policy, they would no longer help the lunatics, and the big problem of terrorism would become a much smaller problem of law enforcement.
I was just randomly watching some video of Noam Chomsky online and he was talking about 9/11 and a study the Pentagon did after 9/11 in which they concluded that those who attacked us did so not because they hate us but because they hate our policies (namely the ones where we try to screw them over). I am going to try to find that study if I find the time later, but all I ask is that you consider it because that theory vs. blind indoctrination is significantly more likely logically and I would guess statistically too.
This is the Chomsky video where he refers to it if you are interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGcJmbNgbV0&feature=related
This is the Chomsky video where he refers to it if you are interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGcJmbNgbV0&feature=related
I dont think that the church should influence the states decicions but should be closely related because it heavily influence the foundation of our nation
obama has only succesfully done one thing correctly thats kill osama wich may lead to him keeping office
yea but obama chose to keep it from pakistan who if we had given warning would have gotten osama out of there
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