Should the Lockerbie bomber have been released?

Should the Lockerbie bomber have been released?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 50.0%
  • No

    Votes: 2 50.0%

  • Total voters
    4
Mar 2009
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The Scottish Government were right to release Al Megrahi.

He is a dieing man, and although some people may not like to accept this he could not have done the job alone even if he had any involvement in the first place.

In my view I would rather send the correct person to Jail than just someone we decided to blame to make people feel happy.

He is not a free man, under Scots law he has not been cleared of anything. He is still officially gulity however after his appeal he was expected to be released, but he got cancer which meant that he was never going to be able to live to see his appeal go through. Thankfully the Scottish Justice system has compassion for people who are dieing. Some people may say well he is guilty, he showed no compassion, well let me send a message to those people, an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth doesn't work anymore. We instead turned the other cheek and we showed them that Scotland at the end of the day has compassion. Scotland showed that we will rise above it.

The Scots law system has compassion, the US law system does not. Maybe the US should learn from Scotland and adopt it. Keeping Megrahi locked up isn't going to bring the people that died back. It is not going to ease the pain. So lets show them that we are the better people and can show compassion where they can't.

Well done to the Scottish Government for making the correct decision, even when under pressure from the US Administration.

Yeah they sure were great.:confused: Why did they lock him up in the first place? They caved and the world knows it.
 
Mar 2009
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Yeah they sure were great.:confused: Why did they lock him up in the first place? They caved and the world knows it.
Good point Dodge, you said it all for me. If the measurement of Scots' greatness is compassion, why lock anybody up for that matter? Better to forgive everyone for their sins and allow them to go free ... it would save cost of prison, cost of legal fees, they would win all the way .... :D

Seriously though, how can anyone say that this guy was wrongfully charged? Surely the British system of justice is much more rigorous than that? Isn't it insulting to the British legal system to say that someone "innocent" has been incarcerated for the sake of having someone to punish ... :confused:
 
Mar 2009
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Good point Dodge, you said it all for me. If the measurement of Scots' greatness is compassion, why lock anybody up for that matter? Better to forgive everyone for their sins and allow them to go free ... it would save cost of prison, cost of legal fees, they would win all the way .... :D

Seriously though, how can anyone say that this guy was wrongfully charged? Surely the British system of justice is much more rigorous than that? Isn't it insulting to the British legal system to say that someone "innocent" has been incarcerated for the sake of having someone to punish ... :confused:

In my opinion it is just more of that "politically correct" bs." We are so good. We care more and would not want to offend anyone" horse hockey!:D A snake will still bite you if you are their "friend". God knows The United States has been bitten by their so called "friends".
 
Sep 2009
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Glasgow, Scotland - Sex: Male - Age: 16
Good point Dodge, you said it all for me. If the measurement of Scots' greatness is compassion, why lock anybody up for that matter? Better to forgive everyone for their sins and allow them to go free ... it would save cost of prison, cost of legal fees, they would win all the way .... :D

Seriously though, how can anyone say that this guy was wrongfully charged? Surely the British system of justice is much more rigorous than that? Isn't it insulting to the British legal system to say that someone "innocent" has been incarcerated for the sake of having someone to punish ... :confused:

Right, there is no such thing as a "British Legal system" as Scotland has her own legal system.

The point of prison is to prepare people to re-enter society and to make sure that they don't commit the same crime again. Megrahi is a dieing man who is now unable to commit such crimes. Prison has served it's purpose in that respect.

Compassion is only considered when have 3 or less months to live (estimate issued by doctors)

Megrahi has received a sentence that no court of law can overturn, hes going to die.
 
Mar 2009
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Oh, so the entire Muslim community of the Middle East got together and decided, okay, now let's pretend to support the victims of this terrible tragedy? Okay, sarcasm off.

This is what generates racial hate, ethnic conflict and racist thought in general. This stupid idea of throwing an entire culture into one category and saying "right, they're all heartless bastards with no respect for freedom, rights or democracy and they all pretend to be our friends in times of terrible tragedy and sadness for us". That, brother, is racial profiling. That is disgusting. Although i'm sure you didn't mean it like that.

Ahmadinejhad is a loony. Absolute nutjob. But Israel has nukes and CLEARLY has no qualms about marching into other countries and beating the living shit out of its inhabitants.

I can only judge the people I see by their actions. I saw women and men in their 30s 40s 50s and older dancing in the street. And some of the women were making those annoying yodeling sounds they tend to make at such times. I am sure there are good people there. But there were good people killed on 9/11 too. They woke me up. I am ready to play by their rules. We will never win their game playing by our rules. Am I an old sick bitter man? Damn straight I am. Was I brought up that way? No. It took things like 9'11 and years of insulting remarks made by our so called friends to make me that way.
 
Apr 2009
1,943
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Disunited Queendom
Good point Dodge, you said it all for me. If the measurement of Scots' greatness is compassion, why lock anybody up for that matter? Better to forgive everyone for their sins and allow them to go free ... it would save cost of prison, cost of legal fees, they would win all the way .... :D

Seriously though, how can anyone say that this guy was wrongfully charged? Surely the British system of justice is much more rigorous than that? Isn't it insulting to the British legal system to say that someone "innocent" has been incarcerated for the sake of having someone to punish ... :confused:

As Comrade Austin says, there is a difference between the Scottish legal system and the English/Welsh system.

And there are specific circumstances that precipitated Megrahi's release. Though i still hold it would have been preferable, or even ideal, that his appeal were heard. The case would have fallen apart.

I can only judge the people I see by their actions. I saw women and men in their 30s 40s 50s and older dancing in the street. And some of the women were making those annoying yodeling sounds they tend to make at such times. I am sure there are good people there. But there were good people killed on 9/11 too. They woke me up. I am ready to play by their rules. We will never win their game playing by our rules. Am I an old sick bitter man? Damn straight I am. Was I brought up that way? No. It took things like 9'11 and years of insulting remarks made by our so called friends to make me that way.

Does that include my insults? Because i prefer to see them as constructive criticism. :p
 
Mar 2009
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Right, there is no such thing as a "British Legal system" as Scotland has her own legal system.
Apologies Austin, I stand corrected. So how does the Scots' legal system differ from that of the English? I'm obviously completely ignorant in this and the apology is sincere ... :eek:

The point of prison is to prepare people to re-enter society and to make sure that they don't commit the same crime again.
I thought imprisonment was punishment. Not a stage before rehabilitation.

Megrahi has received a sentence that no court of law can overturn, hes going to die.
Right. Also not a very nice way to die either. At least he got a hearing before he was incarcerated though, the victims of Lockerbie were not given any lattitude at all. Nor their relatives the opportunity to say goodbye to them. I don't see any compassion in how they were treated.
 
Apr 2009
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Disunited Queendom
Right. Also not a very nice way to die either. At least he got a hearing before he was incarcerated though, the victims of Lockerbie were not given any lattitude at all. Nor their relatives the opportunity to say goodbye to them. I don't see any compassion in how they were treated.

Although he probably didn't do it. And a second appeal trial would have proven this. I think Megrahi probably regrets having been released on compassionate grounds. How would you feel if you were soon to die, having been accused, without a fair trial or fair appeal, of having committed genocide?
 
Mar 2009
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Although he probably didn't do it. And a second appeal trial would have proven this. I think Megrahi probably regrets having been released on compassionate grounds. How would you feel if you were soon to die, having been accused, without a fair trial or fair appeal, of having committed genocide?
You know Dirk, when you are that sick, you don't think about stuff like that at all and are more worried that you don't have the strength to get up in the morning, bath and dress yourself. You really just want to die as cancer is as bad as that. It sort of gives you a complete paradigm switch to a different plane where politics, history, and "what ifs" don't matter any more.
 
Apr 2009
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Disunited Queendom
You know Dirk, when you are that sick, you don't think about stuff like that at all and are more worried that you don't have the strength to get up in the morning, bath and dress yourself. You really just want to die as cancer is as bad as that. It sort of gives you a complete paradigm switch to a different plane where politics, history, and "what ifs" don't matter any more.

I agree but what i mean is that most people would want their mark to be left in the world. But they wouldn't want to be remembered as genocidal maniacs! Because that is how we live on, in peoples' hearts and memories.
 
Mar 2009
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I agree but what i mean is that most people would want their mark to be left in the world. But they wouldn't want to be remembered as genocidal maniacs! Because that is how we live on, in peoples' hearts and memories.
Right. Although I can't help but thinking that perhaps he is regarded as a hero amongst his own people. He sacrificed his life and earned lots of space in heaven? Isn't that the way it usually works with terrorists from the Middle East?
 
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