Socialists Rejoice

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The eurozone economy has passed another bleak milestone.

Socialists in America rejoice

Official figures Tuesday showed that unemployment across the 17 European Union countries that use the euro has struck 12 percent for the first time since the currency was launched in 1999.

Nice. No wonder America tries to emulate you.

A total of 19.07 million people were officially out of work in the eurozone in February, nearly two million more than the same month the year before. For the 27-country European Union, of which the eurozone is a large part, the unemployment rate was 10.9 percent.

Even nicer

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Europe-Economy/2013/04/02/id/497396#ixzz2PK7m85Dp
 
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Why would socialists, a pro-labor economic ideology, rejoice at 17% unemployment? If you're going to troll, at least don't be an idiot about it.
 
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Why would socialists, a pro-labor economic ideology, rejoice at 17% unemployment? If you're going to troll, at least don't be an idiot about it.

Where do you get 17% unemployment? Did you mean the 17 European Union countries that use the euro has struck 12 percent unemployment?

You use the word idiot and make some strong statements and then bone up like this?

Let's tighten up, David. If you're going to be that critical, at least be accurate. Your opinion given and I thank you for responding but, you know I won't tolerate inaccuracy. I'll light that right up. Thanks and let's try to read my posts and be accurate! Geez.
 
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Where do you get 17% unemployment? Did you mean the 17 European Union countries that use the euro has struck 12 percent unemployment?

You use the word idiot and make some strong statements and then bone up like this?

Let's tighten up, David. If you're going to be that critical, at least be accurate. Your opinion given and I thank you for responding but, you know I won't tolerate inaccuracy. I'll light that right up. Thanks and let's try to read my posts and be accurate! Geez.

You're right, I misread. The point still stands.
 
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You're right, I misread. The point still stands.

I think the point that stands is mine. Anyone wanting to follow in the footsteps of socialist europe economic policies can look forward to 12% unemployment. That unemployment rate should be the socialist badge of honor, to be worn by all massive centralized government planning fans. You reap what you sow.

You do lean socialist, yes David?
 

myp

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Socialist is a catchphrase nowadays and is way to vague with way too many definitions and interpretations to have use in most conversations. Care to clarify what policies you don't like?

I think the major thing at play here is obviously the giant in the room and that is the monetary and fiscal systems and the divergence in needs there.
 
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Socialist is a catchphrase nowadays and is way to vague with way too many definitions and interpretations to have use in most conversations. Care to clarify what policies you don't like?

I think the major thing at play here is obviously the giant in the room and that is the monetary and fiscal systems and the divergence in needs there.

Monetary and fiscal systems......and a need for "divergence?"

...uh......ok, I'll bite.

Care to elaborate there, uh.......myp?:unsure:
 

myp

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Monetary and fiscal systems......and a need for "divergence?"

...uh......ok, I'll bite.

Care to elaborate there, uh.......myp?:unsure:

Not a need for divergence, but a divergence of needs. This goes hand-in-hand with the discussion we were having in the Christie thread here: http://politicalfray.com/government-politics/3842-opinionson-chris-christie-cpac-issue-3.html

As it stands, a Euro in Greece or Cyprus or even Spain and Italy is quite different than a Euro in Germany or Finland or France. A lot of the PIIGS need looser monetary policy- they need inflation right now. The core doesn't. But it is all one currency, so you can't go both ways and that leads to a bind. The core's influence in the Euro wins and the rest suffer.
 
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Maybe the answer isn't some government mandated or initiated endeavor. Something other than some centralized and reactive rather than proactive government program?
 

myp

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Maybe the answer isn't some government mandated or initiated endeavor. Something other than some centralized and reactive rather than proactive government program?

What government mandate are you referring to? In the other thread you already said that you supported government's role in establishing currency, didn't you?
 
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I wasn't focusing on the Euro, myp. Their belief that the solution to their economic woes lie in some Euro Union governing body or big social program initiative are misplaced.
 

myp

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I wasn't focusing on the Euro, myp. Their belief that the solution to their economic woes lie in some Euro Union governing body or big social program initiative are misplaced.

Who is "their" here? And what is this solution you are referring to? You are ignoring the major problem at hand (the one I described) and then attempting to place blame for the current situation on some other problem that we don't even know is a problem necessarily. And how are you not focusing on the EU? All your quotations are about how the EU/EZ unemployment rate is bad.
 
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Who is "their" here?

The European Union dominated by Socialist governments.

And what is this solution you are referring to?

Size and scope of their governments trimmed, immediate tax cuts across the board, entitlement including their socialist health care plans, eligibility ages increased, and I'd personally like to see the Euro go away and these nations return to managing their own monetary policies.

You are ignoring the major problem at hand (the one I described) and then attempting to place blame for the current situation on some other problem that we don't even know is a problem necessarily. And how are you not focusing on the EU? All your quotations are about how the EU/EZ unemployment rate is bad.

Why not make your argument and stop trolling on about mine. Thanks. You asked for some solutions above, I gave them. Let's cease with the "you" this or "you" that, myp...shall we?
 
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Socialist gov't? Socialism is an economic ideology. You can't have a 'socialist gov't' any more than a 'capitalist gov't'. What Europe has are a bunch of social democratic gov'ts, some capitalists, others socialist in their economic views.
 
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myp

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Why not make your argument and stop trolling on about mine. Thanks. You asked for some solutions above, I gave them. Let's cease with the "you" this or "you" that, myp...shall we?

You are the first person I have ever come across who thinks a personal pronoun automatically signals trolling. You don't seem to know what is going on in the EU judged by your response here and in the Christie thread. Keep blaming the "socialists" or "big government"- it doesn't mean anything.
 
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You are the first person I have ever come across who thinks a personal pronoun automatically signals trolling. You don't seem to know what is going on in the EU judged by your response here and in the Christie thread. Keep blaming the "socialists" or "big government"- it doesn't mean anything.

:smug:Oh....I am quite sure I'm the first person you've come across in many ways...especially while in this forum.

And before you once again kneejerk and attempt to hijack yet another thread start of mine, allow me to use your process if I may.....Ready? Myp...this is yet another response from you that begins....with the word "you." Nearly every response I get from you, is you complaining or flat out whining about process...rather than addressing my point or argument. And I'm not even permitted to mention that....or the fact that I believe your process deflects from threads and is disingenuous at best.

See......I can droll on about "you" too, myp. It doesn't address the thread topic.

Again......rather than blame......or judge......I will return to the meat of my argument here....Perhaps this 12% unemployment(atrocious btw) and I quote myself;

"Maybe the answer isn't some government mandated or initiated endeavor. Something other than some centralized and reactive rather than proactive government program?"

And I gave some solutions other than a huge centralized planning endeavor as well. Now......continue to type on about "you" all you'd like, myp, with someone else. thanks.
 

myp

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Again, the word you is a personal pronoun which can be used in many ways. When I say something like "you say" or "your idea" and then go on to talk about an idea, the "you" merely serves as a reference to an idea that was posed by you. It has nothing to actually do with your being.
 
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Again, the word you is a personal pronoun which can be used in many ways. When I say something like "you say" or "your idea" and then go on to talk about an idea, the "you" merely serves as a reference to an idea that was posed by you. It has nothing to actually do with your being.

At least you waited until the 4th word in this response to continue on with your senseless irrelevant trolling.
 
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