I disagree. There is no way to tax this any other way- financial works. Even with tobacco, you are taxing financially for a problem that is non-financial (health).
A financial solution to fix a non financial problem, like using a hammer to paint.
I disagree. There is no way to tax this any other way- financial works. Even with tobacco, you are taxing financially for a problem that is non-financial (health).
A financial solution to fix a non financial problem, like using a hammer to paint.
Do you think that a tobacco tax is like that? How about a lawsuit settlement or decision over a non-financial dispute that ends in a financial transfer?
Our society often uses financial transfers to offset non-financial costs. It is often the most effective thing we can do. In the end, value is value. You might not be able to convert (or even measure) all the non-financial value to a financial figure, but you can offset it partially.
No tobacco tax isn't like that, 90% of users are negatively affected, .000001% of bullet users are negatively effected.
There is a financial cost to cigarette smokers, not to ammo buyers. So no still don't wasn't to use a hammer to paint
The cost to cigarette smokers is health, not financial. But we can try to offset it financially.
Health costs are financial, r&d, treatment.
A health cost isn't a financial cost. If you get sick, do you consider that cost to be a loss of money? Of course not. Now you might spend money to get better, but that is a separate cost.
The examples are everywhere. Whenever you buy something with money, you are using money to get something in return that is a different form of value. You also see it with insurance- you might have life insurance and the family gets paid money in compensation for when their loved one passes away. Of course the guy's life was not a financial loss and no amount of money might make up for him being gone, but the money can help- it is the same idea here with taxing bullets.
Guns and bullets don't kill people, people do. No matter what mental gymnastics you pull it isn't going to change that, sorry.
And without bullets they wouldn't be able to mass murder people as they do (at least not as easily). No mental gymnastics you play will change that either.
And if the didn't exist that would be great, making them cost more through taxes for no real reason is not the same thing. It will change nothing just more money that the government will foolishly (imo) spend.
I don't agree with your connection between bullets and crime, frankly there is a far more of a connection between vehicles and crime.
I disagree, it is not a good idea to tax people for bullets over (imo) a fictitious "negative externality"
You think the drops in gun crime rates in the UK and elsewhere including mass shootings like CT after they cracked down on guns was a coincidence? Make it harder to get bullets, and you get less gun crime- no doubt about it. Pretty much common sense actually.
What about the 81% drop in violent crime in Kenasaw Gorgia due to being legally required to own a gun.
but you aren't talking about gun control, taxing bullets isn't the same thing. the UK doesn't have as much gun crime, mainly because their culture is quite as violent as ours, cultural differences are three reason, most people would simply defy the law here in the states.
But it is not because they taxed bullets. Sorry I still don't see the connection.
The point is that with guns and bullets you have a higher rate of such crime. That is the externality. I am not asking to ban guns, but correct for that market failure in pricing by taxing bullets.
What market, this isn't an economy issue. this is why your argument makes no sense.
I'm sorry I just don't see the connection
How is it not a market issue? I just explained why it is not only a market issue but could potentially be a market failure issue. You do buy and sell bullets after all, do you not? Or do you steal them?![]()
Yes but why bullets, what makes them special?
Not sure what you are asking. Can you elaborate?
You're talking about taxing a particular item to make up for some market deficiency, just wondering how you came up with bullets, why not tee shirts or tires or alligator food? What made you decide this product?
Taxing bullets is not the only thing I want to tax. Anything that we can show has a notable negative externality and which can be taxed in a reasonable way and produce a potentially net positive outcome (after transaction costs, logistical costs, etc.), I am for taxing. Call me a supporter of the Pigou club, if you will.
I am saying your negative externality isn't an economic one, so I just don't see the connection. Help me see how the negative externality is an economic one and can be repaired by this thing you purpose.