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myp

Jan 2009
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Please read through the thread, thanks.

All I see is anecdotal complaints of how the President takes too many vacations, rubs elbows with fat cats, etc. Give me some actual data or examples that show that "normal critics" are letting this more things slide by with this President than others. And if you don't have such evidence- then this is nothing more than biased anecdotes. And frankly, that means nothing.
 
Oct 2012
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Louisville, Ky
All I see is anecdotal complaints of how the President takes too many vacations, rubs elbows with fat cats, etc. Give me some actual data or examples that show that "normal critics" are letting this more things slide by with this President than others. And if you don't have such evidence- then this is nothing more than biased anecdotes. And frankly, that means nothing.

This president is much like all in the last 50 yrs...whatever they need to be.

He seems the standard .
 
Dec 2012
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34
United States
All I see is anecdotal complaints of how the President takes too many vacations, rubs elbows with fat cats, etc. Give me some actual data or examples that show that "normal critics" are letting this more things slide by with this President than others. And if you don't have such evidence- then this is nothing more than biased anecdotes. And frankly, that means nothing.

If that's all you see, you're not seeing the "actual data", vacations and who he associates with slides by, the actual data involves so many more critical to our country and national security issues.

"Normal Critics" in the 2008 election, considered the prison at Gitmo to be the primary eyesore defining American policies abroad. In 2012, it wasn't an issue. "Normal Critics" in the 2008 election, considered violations of sovereign airspace, Special Ops missions, drone programs, and military surges followed by occupation and nation building polices to be impeachable offenses. In 2012 elections, these policies weren't an issue. "Normal Critics" in the 2008 election, considered debt extensions unpatriotic, were outraged by words like earmarks and pet projects. In 2012, these weren't an issue.

I think the actual data concerning Benghazi proves the "Normal Critics" lat that slide. The President out there weeks later using some video to explain away gross incompetence, that utter disaster didn't cost him either.

He's seldom held accountable for any reality as far as I can see.
 
Dec 2012
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United States
This president is much like all in the last 50 yrs...whatever they need to be.

He seems the standard .

So, lets just give him thanks and praise. Thanks for his efforts following Sandy, praise for being so standard.
 
Oct 2012
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Louisville, Ky
So, lets just give him thanks and praise. Thanks for his efforts following Sandy, praise for being so standard.

He may be shown appreciation based on the response if only because it was relatively good in comparison to what occurred in the Katrina disaster. Likely what you see as praise is simply the lack of accurate criticism.
This President seems to have a popularity based on several factors, from his race to his policies. But he most certainly deals with a powerful lack of popularity as well if not a disrespect, for many or the same reasons.
 

myp

Jan 2009
5,841
50
If that's all you see, you're not seeing the "actual data", vacations and who he associates with slides by, the actual data involves so many more critical to our country and national security issues.

"Normal Critics" in the 2008 election, considered the prison at Gitmo to be the primary eyesore defining American policies abroad. In 2012, it wasn't an issue. "Normal Critics" in the 2008 election, considered violations of sovereign airspace, Special Ops missions, drone programs, and military surges followed by occupation and nation building polices to be impeachable offenses. In 2012 elections, these policies weren't an issue. "Normal Critics" in the 2008 election, considered debt extensions unpatriotic, were outraged by words like earmarks and pet projects. In 2012, these weren't an issue.

I think the actual data concerning Benghazi proves the "Normal Critics" lat that slide. The President out there weeks later using some video to explain away gross incompetence, that utter disaster didn't cost him either.

He's seldom held accountable for any reality as far as I can see.

The burden is on the conspiracy theorist to prove his conspiracy. Again, show me hard data and not just what you think was a shift in criticism.

Frankly, I think everyone is too high-ho on politicians in general. It is more about the system and incentives than it is about actual politicians most of the time. But that isn't glamorous to the media or many folk who just like a simple black v. white narrative.
 
Dec 2012
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United States
He may be shown appreciation based on the response if only because it was relatively good in comparison to what occurred in the Katrina disaster. Likely what you see as praise is simply the lack of accurate criticism.

It was a photo op. Easily seen for what it was and you believe he should be thanked for it. I find that very odd.

This President seems to have a popularity based on several factors, from his race to his policies. But he most certainly deals with a powerful lack of popularity as well if not a disrespect, for many or the same reasons.

His popularity soars at 55%+, he was just re-elected and it wasn't close......I don't see this "powerful lack of popularity" you make up here, I also see his circus clown antics and policies as abysmal failures.

Figures you'd bring up race, let's try not to play that card unless you actually need to. thanks.
 
Dec 2012
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United States
You don't have a point, just a random rant and me having fun egging you on.

You don't have a challenge to my point, there is a difference. Your inability to argue against it a far cry from not having one.

thanks.
 
Jul 2009
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Port St. Lucie
You don't have a challenge to my point, there is a difference. Your inability to argue against it a far cry from not having one.

thanks.

I did argue against it and you started rambling in response. Please continue. ;)
 
Dec 2012
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United States
I did argue against it and you started rambling in response. Please continue. ;)

Actually "You don't have a point, just a random rant and me having fun egging you on" was your argument and it's rather more troll than content, but irrelevance aside, my argument remains unchallenged. We move on.
 
Jul 2009
5,893
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Port St. Lucie
Actually "You don't have a point, just a random rant and me having fun egging you on" was your argument and it's rather more troll than content, but irrelevance aside, my argument remains unchallenged. We move on.

That wasn't my argument... Have to pretend that was my 1st post to avoid having to defend yourself?
 
Dec 2012
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United States
That wasn't my argument... Have to pretend that was my 1st post to avoid having to defend yourself?

I'm sorry, you'll have to repeat your "argument" I honestly cannot find it. I see a "You mean the thread filled with nothing but complaints?" from you but this is more troll rather than content filled posts...again. I cannot see you as even trying to have a geniune attempt at a conversation much less present an argument. Care to restate?
 
Jul 2009
5,893
474
Port St. Lucie
I'm sorry, you'll have to repeat your "argument" I honestly cannot find it. I see a "You mean the thread filled with nothing but complaints?" from you but this is more troll rather than content filled posts...again. I cannot see you as even trying to have a geniune attempt at a conversation much less present an argument. Care to restate?

This who thread is a anti-Obama troll... You said nobody complained so I pointed to your posts, editorials in major newspapers, books, etc. You then said it was his supporters not complaining to which my reply was basically, "Duh!" You then said I was trolling and here we are.
 
Dec 2012
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United States
This who thread is a anti-Obama troll... You said nobody complained so I pointed to your posts, editorials in major newspapers, books, etc. You then said it was his supporters not complaining to which my reply was basically, "Duh!" You then said I was trolling and here we are.

I know what your reply was, I quoted you a couple times. You're trolling here, we move on.
 
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