What do you think of the Governator?

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Every time I meet someone from California, I ask them what they think of Arnie. I've been rather surprised that no one has really vilified him. Personally, I like him, maybe because he seems like a Bush opposite. Bush gets an idea in his head, and that's it. No matter what subsequent evidence contradicts that idea, it is, for Bush, true forevermore. Arnie, on the other hand, is practical. If one thing doesn't work, he'll try another. And he doesn't stand on ideology.
 
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Every time I meet someone from California, I ask them what they think of Arnie. I've been rather surprised that no one has really vilified him. Personally, I like him, maybe because he seems like a Bush opposite. Bush gets an idea in his head, and that's it. No matter what subsequent evidence contradicts that idea, it is, for Bush, true forevermore. Arnie, on the other hand, is practical. If one thing doesn't work, he'll try another. And he doesn't stand on ideology.
California is bankrupt. It is one of the most economically problematic States in the US. Need we say anything further about this? What is needed is not a "nice" person to sort things out, but someone who is courageous enough to be unpopular in order to achieve efficiency.
 
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I believe that a lot of that is the State Legislature's fault. I've heard that they haven't been working with him.

I will say that he's not as bad as he could have been. He tried to push through some anti video game legislature (and wasted a few hundred thousand dollars in legal fees in the process) so he's on my bad side at the moment.
 
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Arnie is a democrat pretending to be a republican. But he has been corrupted by sleeping with a democrat. That just makes him a fraud in my eyes.:mad:
 
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I think of him more as an independent who was deluded about the Republican Party's supposed policy of 'fiscal responsibility'. He comes down on the right side of many things I think are important, like the right to choose, stem cell research, car emissions.

I think exposure to people with different backgrounds, and the Kennedy's are that, has perhaps made him more open-minded.

I don't think sleeping with someone or marriage to someone necessarily changes ones beliefs. If that were true, either my ex-husband would have become a Democrat or I would have become a Republican. We argued about Nixon as we parked the car at the polls.

The legislature in California has been filled with idiots for years. They are the ones who passed a bill that fixed the price at which utiliies could sell electricity without ever considering that the cost might go up. A lot of the big mess they had when they couldn't afford to buy electricity was caused by that. Of course there was fraud on the part of Enron and others, but the legislature set the stage.
 
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How "open minded" is TED Kennedy and wind power off "his" coast? He will keep anything from spoiling his view until they bury him. But I bet he would vote for putting those turbines in my yard. Just like the gun grabbers would take my gun while traveling with 6 secret service agents.:mad:
 
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How "open minded" is TED Kennedy and wind power off "his" coast? He will keep anything from spoiling his view until they bury him. But I bet he would vote for putting those turbines in my yard. Just like the gun grabbers would take my gun while traveling with 6 secret service agents.:mad:

Actually, he has supported those of us Floridians who also don't want those platforms off our coast. We don't want drilling at all, and if at some point we have to have it, we want the new submerged platforms.

And where did this come from? We were discussing Schwartzeneggar.
 
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And where did this come from? We were discussing Schwartzeneggar.
I still wonder how anybody could have elected him to Governor of California. Was it to copy Reagan's act as a politician? Seems to me that California is is need of someone with firm action and who is able to deal decisively with union as well as outsourcing of products and services to other states. I also wonder whether he has any connections with the mob?
 
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Actually, he has supported those of us Floridians who also don't want those platforms off our coast. We don't want drilling at all, and if at some point we have to have it, we want the new submerged platforms.

And where did this come from? We were discussing Schwartzeneggar.

That came from your statement.


"I think exposure to people with different backgrounds, and the Kennedy's are that, has perhaps made him more open-minded."
 
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That came from your statement.


"I think exposure to people with different backgrounds, and the Kennedy's are that, has perhaps made him more open-minded."
I'd rather that he be a little less open-minded and more focussed on bailing out California of its present economic dilemma.
 
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That came from your statement.


"I think exposure to people with different backgrounds, and the Kennedy's are that, has perhaps made him more open-minded."

Oh, that wasn't clear, was it. I was referring to the fact that the Kennedy's have this long history of political activity and public service, and Schwarzeneggar had never been exposed to that until he met his wife.
 
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I still wonder how anybody could have elected him to Governor of California. Was it to copy Reagan's act as a politician? Seems to me that California is is need of someone with firm action and who is able to deal decisively with union as well as outsourcing of products and services to other states. I also wonder whether he has any connections with the mob?

Well, for one thing, they kicked out the previous governor, and his lieutenant governor was running in his place. If you are going to go so far as to remove your governor when he has less than half a term in, you certainly aren't going to want someone who is much like him.

No mob connections. Do you have any idea how much the mob hates the Kennedy's and anybody associated with them? One of their members claimed, before he died, that they were responsible for the assassination.
 
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Well, for one thing, they kicked out the previous governor, and his lieutenant governor was running in his place. If you are going to go so far as to remove your governor when he has less than half a term in, you certainly aren't going to want someone who is much like him.

No mob connections. Do you have any idea how much the mob hates the Kennedy's and anybody associated with them? One of their members claimed, before he died, that they were responsible for the assassination.
So I can imagine Arnie has quite a big security staff?:)

Back to Arnie. What do you think the solution is for California, as it looks pretty bad with the need for major change in the management of its economy?
 
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So I can imagine Arnie has quite a big security staff?:)

Back to Arnie. What do you think the solution is for California, as it looks pretty bad with the need for major change in the management of its economy?
Can we give California back to Mexico?
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That was not serious.:eek: I don't know since I tend to ignore California on most things.:confused: They could get another Democrat to keep doing things his way. Or jump off the cliff and get a real Republican. But that will never happen until they see the final chapter play out on these Democrats.Then I will not want to hear it.
 
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Can we give California back to Mexico?
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That was not serious.:eek:
It is a fun one though. Maybe a merger? Just thinking about it, why isn't there a Disney World in Mexico? We could do with a second Seaworld as well. A more natural one on the coast. Maybe they can start a few software companies there too, sort of Mexican Silicon Valley?
 
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It is a fun one though. Maybe a merger? Just thinking about it, why isn't there a Disney World in Mexico? We could do with a second Seaworld as well. A more natural one on the coast. Maybe they can start a few software companies there too, sort of Mexican Silicon Valley?

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That could work. And many of them have already moved in.
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It is a fun one though. Maybe a merger? Just thinking about it, why isn't there a Disney World in Mexico? We could do with a second Seaworld as well. A more natural one on the coast. Maybe they can start a few software companies there too, sort of Mexican Silicon Valley?

They have SeaWorld type parks here. Walmart, too. They even have electricity!

As far as what should be done about California, I don't know. I'm worried about Florida. It has some of the highest unemployment and worst housing markets in the country. But that's because that's home. California is more critical, because of its size. Isn't it something like the fifth largest economy in the world?
 
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They have SeaWorld type parks here. Walmart, too. They even have electricity!

As far as what should be done about California, I don't know. I'm worried about Florida. It has some of the highest unemployment and worst housing markets in the country. But that's because that's home. California is more critical, because of its size. Isn't it something like the fifth largest economy in the world?
Right, and I believe Miami is one of most dangerous cities in the US to live in. So you have lots to worry about. I'm sorry to hear about the unemployment though. Do you think people are moving out of Miami? Also, Florida must have received a brunt of the housing crisis? Perhaps even more so than California?
 
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I don't live in Miami and rarely go there. Sometimes I change planes at the airport.

The overall unemployment rate is frightening, and will certainly drive up crime everywhere. Florida also has three of the hardest hit housing areas, too.

The economy is incredibly dependent on tourism, which is being hit reallly hard.
 
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I don't live in Miami and rarely go there. Sometimes I change planes at the airport.

The overall unemployment rate is frightening, and will certainly drive up crime everywhere. Florida also has three of the hardest hit housing areas, too.

The economy is incredibly dependent on tourism, which is being hit reallly hard.
I must say I am pretty apprehensive too. When I visited Orlando a number of years ago, I stuck with Disney and Epcott Centre, then moved down the coast in an opposite direction to Miami.
 
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