Its a fact that god does not exist

[purpleinsect]

Well there just seems to be more proof that he exists than that he wouldn't exist. No matter how unreliable and unbelievable those proofs seem to you or someone else, they are still there. And there is absolutely nothing to support the fact that he wouldn't exist.
And I'm not a strong believer, I just know that all of this just wasn't made up by aliens. And even if it was. Who created aliens. Someone had to, just simply had to create something for all of this to start. Stare to the ground and wait for a ball to appear infront of you. It won't appear, because no one is making it appear. World was created by someone, it didn't just appear out of nowhere.

 

[Seer Travis Truman]

Well there just seems to be more proof that he exists than that he wouldn't exist.

There is ZERO proofs that a god exists. None. You are yet to show one. Just claiming something is proof does not make it proof.

No matter how unreliable and unbelievable those proofs seem to you or someone else, they are still there.

They are there, but they are not proof. They are unreliable. But they are NOT unbelievable, because most humans delude themselves into believing these lies.

They are not "proofs", and labelling them so does not make them so.

And there is absolutely nothing to support the fact that he wouldn't exist.

There is plenty of reasons, however, it is the person making claim that needs the evidence.

And I'm not a strong believer, I just know that all of this just wasn't made up by aliens. And even if it was. Who created aliens. Someone had to, just simply had to create something for all of this to start. Stare to the ground and wait for a ball to appear infront of you. It won't appear, because no one is making it appear. World was created by someone, it didn't just appear out of nowhere.

Faulty logic. All you do is postpone the question one step to the supposed "god" creature. The fact is there does NOT have to be a creator, nor does the universe have to be created or brought into existence. There is no evidence to suggest that, and plenty to the contrary.

 

[Eddy]

Well...IF god exists...he made it so africans would live in poverty and also made tornados and other things that could kill humans just for his entertainment

 

[David]

Well...IF god exists...he made it so africans would live in poverty and also made tornados and other things that could kill humans just for his entertainment

Africa has the strongest banks and, combined, the fastest growing economy.

 

[deanhills]

Africa has the strongest banks

Where did you get this information from? :unsure:

and, combined, the fastest growing economy.

You got me here again. Which countries in Africa are growing fast? Percentages?

 

[PCKen]

It's hard to say whether he does or doesn't or what you consider God. If you have imagination you can understand the possiblility of some form of creation or illusion we're in.

 

[GekiDan]

I'm a Catholic and we believe that God exist. Believing in Him is not like "to see is to believe." Instead, you can feel Him deep within yourself. Honestly, I experienced this myself.

I respect the views of Atheist and other people. And I don't have anything against you. Besides, it's really good to see what other people thinks about the entity we call God.

 

[prasanth5]

Belief in God and non-belief in God are nothing but two different schools of philosophy and nothing more than that. Belief in God also needs reasoning for that matter.

 

[Dirk]

Until three years ago, I believed in God.

I respect people regardless of their personal convictions. So long as they don't condemn me for my lack of belief or the belief of my heritage, I have no problem with religious individuals.

I also respect greatly the views of Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr., though I have never shared their respective religious beliefs.

 

[alexmike]

Many people might say there is no proof of God. I would like them to ask themselves... really? Do you really think so? Look around you everywhere, can it be anyone but God. Are you a machine?
No you are a person, who feels, who needs, who understands...
You are not a chemical or a thing. You are a human. Could it be anything, but God who has created you just perfect? And everything around you.

 

[Dirk]

Many people might say there is no proof of God. I would like them to ask themselves... really? Do you really think so? Look around you everywhere, can it be anyone but God. Are you a machine?
No you are a person, who feels, who needs, who understands...
You are not a chemical or a thing. You are a human. Could it be anything, but God who has created you just perfect? And everything around you.

But there is no such thing as perfection. If you consider yourself perfect, I would be highly concerned about your considerably oversized ego. What's more, we were not "created" as we are. A human arises from a foetus, a plant from a seed. And gradual evolutionary change has made every living organism around us what it is. Had an alternate set of circumstances been the case, the world would be radically different.

 

[adagio]

>"We have no absolute proof that God exists, and we have no absolute objective proof God does not exist. This is where faith comes in."<

But we aren't required to prove a negative. Atheism is actually the defacto state of things. God is a concept which is inserted as some means of explanation. The burden of proof is upon the person making a positive claim. The skeptic is not required to prove that something doesn't exist.

 

[Dirk]

>"We have no absolute proof that God exists, and we have no absolute objective proof God does not exist. This is where faith comes in."<

But we aren't required to prove a negative. Atheism is actually the defacto state of things. God is a concept which is inserted as some means of explanation. The burden of proof is upon the person making a positive claim. The skeptic is not required to prove that something doesn't exist.

That was a lot more effective than my bread analogy, or whatever it was. Thank you.

 

[adagio]

I am with Ice Age here, that God is the creation of faith. No one can prove that God does not exist either- proof requires evidence or support of some kind, which no one can show against the existence of God.

I think that's an illogical approach to take. You're asking people to prove a negative. You'd have to look at every nook and cranny of an infinite universe before you could definitively state that God isn't here. The burden of proof is not on the person of doubt. It's on proving the assertion that their IS a God. Then again, if we simply alter our view or concept of God as that God is nature itself, then you have all the proof that you require. Of course the idea that this is a personal God is abandoned. :unsure: Nature is amoral, so that opens up other philosophical issues. But maybe that's a good thing.

 

[adagio]

First off, there is no need to call people who believe in god "diseased" because that is simply not true and could come off as offensive. And while you believe it is the religious people that need to prove something to you, they might see it as the non-believers job to prove such. You claim no God exists, religious people claim a God does exist. Even if you do not believe in a traditional God, you might believe in an order of the universe, which again you can't prove, but you might just believe in.


But again, while you may see belief in God as an outlying argument, believers may see the lack of belief in a God or a universal law to be an outlying argument. Most matters tend to not have this ambiguity as one side usually does have a strong, rational, and clearly provable idea that can disprove conflicting theories. This is not the case with an issue as massive and universal as the existence of God as this delves on issues such as the meaning of life, what the purpose of the universe is, and other such issues which we may just never be able to solve. Maybe one day we will get closer, but as of now, it is just a far-off idea and one which does allow such differing ideas to coexist, regardless of what is correct (which in reality no human knows right now.)

>" And while you believe it is the religious people that need to prove something to you, they might see it as the non-believers job to prove such."<

They probably would. But it's not a rational argument. A person isn't required to prove the non-existance of anything. You prove something exists. Not that something doesn't exist. Kind of like WMD.

 

[adagio]

>"The universe can have no purpose because the universe cannot think. It just does what it does."<

Nature is contained within the universe. In fact, it is the universe itself. Nature is amoral. As you said, it simply does what it does. There is no morality assigned to it. It doesn't care about these things. We decide on what is moral and what isn't. We make value judgments but we can't demonstrate the truth of them. So we hold values that we can't prove are true.

>"The rules of logic, more importantly Forbidden Truth, dictate that only the affirmative claim needs to be proven."<

I have no idea what you mean by "forbidden truth" Forbidden by whom??

 

[Dirk]

I have no idea what you mean by "forbidden truth" Forbidden by whom??

He has an odd rhetoric. I've never encountered it before. Don't worry, my rhetoric is far more traditionally socialist. Haha!

 

[adagio]

He has an odd rhetoric. I've never encountered it before. Don't worry, my rhetoric is far more traditionally socialist. Haha!

That I can understand. I have issues with people that make up terminology that only they are aware of. Then you get a definition that is completely bizarre. It seems to be an exercise in obscurantism.

 

[Seer Travis Truman]

That I can understand. I have issues with people that make up terminology that only they are aware of. Then you get a definition that is completely bizarre. It seems to be an exercise in obscurantism.

I have news for you, inferior. ALL terms are made up. Where else did you think they came from?

My website at www.Truthmedia.8k.com explains Forbidden Truth, however, nearly all human drones are unable to handle Truth.

He has an odd rhetoric. I've never encountered it before. Don't worry, my rhetoric is far more traditionally socialist. Haha!

I have no rhetoric. That is your department.
And your signature betrays your utter foolishness.

www.Truthmedia.8k.com

 

[adagio]

I have news for you, inferior. ALL terms are made up. Where else did you think they came from?

My website at www.Truthmedia.8k.com explains Forbidden Truth, however, nearly all human drones are unable to handle Truth.

Most have a history to them. You're practicing obscurantism. You're creating a vocabulary to fit your irrationalism in hopes that it may make it appear rational. It doesn't.