JFK assassination and the CIA

[7forever]

You are a complete wack job. The visual evidence is in your sick mind only. You haven't and never will convince people to see your imaginary gun. The only thing left to talk about in this case, how you need mental help... so please gets some help!

Only a wack job like yourself would deny and ignore Greer's arm crossing in Nix. You compeltely fail at what you're trying to achieve. The visual evidence is in the nix and muchmore films which both show Greer's left arm crossing. You haven't and never will convince people that you are anything but a tool who has failed to do anything but repeat the same lies. The only thing left to talk about in this case is the truth about Greer. Many people have agreed with me on forums but most are simply in denial. The masses, which are not on forums will side with the obvious fact that Greer shot jfk.

 

[7forever]

A desperate and pathetic opposition

You are a complete wack job. The visual evidence is in your sick mind only. You haven't and never will convince people to see your imaginary gun. The only thing left to talk about in this case, how you need mental help... so please gets some help!

It does NOT matter if 1000 people say a blue sky is black, it will always be blue. Every single person who has seen the gif knows Greer's left arm crosses because it happens.

You see Greer's arm crossing but deny it. I trust my own eyes. The nix gif shows Greer's arm crossing in unison with the headshot.

Just cuz you deny something does not make it NOT true.

You are actually not contributing anything. Most people familiar with the JFK conspiracy have not seen the nix film close-up because it's brand new. You're not revealing anything, but posting the same denials that no longer work. They are invalid.

You're regurgitating the same vomit

 

[7forever]

319 is the gun bleached in white

Everyone now can see that Greer places the gun in his left hand proving that Bob harris tried and failed to keep this deception going indefinitely. The altered gun is visible before, during and after the shot.
318 is the fake reflection and 319 is the gun bleached in white.

COMING UP FROM FLOOR, BACKWARDS.

They could NOT edit out the gun so they covered it with white and grey. The driver killing Kennedy was always THE TRUTH but was universally ignored and covered-up.

CASE CLOSED

 

[7forever]

The government never had to defend their silly reports because there was never a trial and the highest levels of government can do whatever hell they want. They promoted their own conspiracy theory when the HSCA said the grassy knoll shot happened but it missed.LOL Modern research comes down to basically this; The driver fired the fatal shot and the government created the illusion in the zfilm that the fatal shot came from the right to distract from Greer. That's it pretty much, with a mountain of evidence that I have not yet organized.

 

[7forever]

The government rewards ct'ers with grassy snow job nod

The HSCA said there were 4 shots and gave two scenarios based on the dpd radio analysis. One of their scenarios had a shot coming after the fatal shot which is what the evidence suggests.

1st shot = Z157 - Z161 TSBD
2nd shot = Z188 - Z191 TSBD
3rd shot = Z295 - Z296 Grassy Knoll (MISSSED...LOL)
4th shot = Z312 TSBD

The HSCA went with the above scenario in the late 70's.

1st shot = Z173 - Z177 TSBD
2nd shot = Z205 -Z208 TSBD
3rd shot = Z312 Grassy Knoll
4th shot = Z328 - Z329 TSBD

This was their way of rewarding people like Robert Groden for covering up the truth about Greer. Groden is the pathetic slob on the right.

 

[7forever]

The driver killed kennedy

Mocking an entire generation of baby boomers whose 47 year reign on covering up Jfk's real assassin has ended

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/hill_j.htm
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Over the past 24 hours a certain Robert Hanson was successful in penetrating the Deep Politics Forum with the obvious truth about the driver killing Kennedy and I banned him because the truth raped my soul so I used my power to censor the truth that has been known by Fetzer, Groden and hundreds of other researchers for decades.

In doing so, Hanson hosted a most enlightening workshop in the craft of sleuthing.

About a half-hour ago I discovered Hanson's blog, "The Driver Killed Kennedy." It seems to have been created on November 19 of this year.

From his blog there is his thread titled "Jean Hill saw Greer shoot back."

In classic sleuthing style, Hanson cites a lengthy segment of Hill's WC testimony given to Arlen Specter so as to A) demonstrate his own familiarity with the record, and B) appeal to reading comprehension and general Kennedy sleuthing.

In essence, Hill states that she simply saw the Secret Service shooting back which is totally obvious to everyone looking at Greer's left arm crossing his right shoulder in the nix film. SHE STATES THAT SHE SAW THE SS SHOOT BACK AND SHE CLEARLY STATES THAT SHE HEARD GUNFIRE FROM THE GRASSY KNOLL. This, in the real world is called corroboration. Greer is the only ss agent who shot back, so she could not have meant anyone else.

Mr. SPECTER - You thought that perhaps the second burst of shots you heard were being directed toward him by the Secret Service?
Mrs. HILL - I Just thought, "Oh, goodness, the Secret Service is shooting back."

Hanson is TELLING THE TRUTH when he states that "Jean Hill saw Greer shoot back,"

It's that simple.

I believe that he is TELLING TRUTH BUT AM REALLY AFRAID TO ADMIT IT.

Here's what Hill told Specter -- as published by Hanson on his own blog:

Mr. SPECTER - What was your impression as to the source of the second group of shots which you have described as the fourth, perhaps the fifth, and perhaps the sixth shot?

Mrs. HILL - Well, nothing, except that I thought that they were fired by someone else.

Mr. SPECTER - And did you have any idea where they were coming from?

Mrs. HILL - No; as I said, I thought they were coming from the general direction of that knoll.

Mr. SPECTER - Well, did you think that the Secret Service was firing them from that knoll?

Mrs. HILL - I said I didn't know-I really don't.

Specter was trying to make her sound crazy but she was simply describing the confusion of gunshots coming from all directions. She saw Greer shoot back and she heard what she thought were multiple shots from the knoll although there was only one fired immediately after Greer shot Kennedy to provide a distraction for Greer. The last shot arguably did come from the north knoll but was was fired to only confuse people as to who shot Kennedy. Without the last shot that followed Greer's, people would have thrown their hands up like the agents did after Roberts called them off jfk's limo. It was a dummie shot to confuse and give witnesses an alternative account for where the fatal shot really came from, the ss agent driving Kennedy's limo.

Mr. SPECTER - You just had the general impression that shots were coming from the knoll?

Mrs. HILL - Yes.

Mr. SPECTER - And you had the general impression that the Secret Service was firing the second group of shots at the man who fired the first group of shots?

Mrs. HILL - That's right.

Mr. SPECTER - But you had no specific impression as to the source of those shots?

Mrs. HILL - No.

What could have prompted Hill to conclude that the SS was shooting in Dealey Plaza? Because she was looking right at Greer when he shot back at jfk's forehead.

Mr. SPECTER - You thought that perhaps the second burst of shots you heard were being directed toward him by the Secret Service?
Mrs. HILL - I Just thought, "Oh, goodness, the Secret Service is shooting back."
Mrs. Hill - ... I thought, because I guess from the TV and movies, that it was Secret Service agents shooting back. To me, if somebody shoots at somebody they always shoot back and so I just thought that that's what it was and I thought, well, they are getting him and shooting back, you know; I didn't know[.]

In point of FACT:

Hill offers eyewitness evidence for a Greer Shot.

Hill offers compelling ear witness testimony for a Grassy Knoll shot which is the red herring promoted by Hollywood and disinfo clowns like Groden and Fetzer.

And so we're left with this:

For the third time, Hanson is TELLING THE TRUTH when he states that "Jean Hill saw Greer shoot back." I see no other viable interpretations for his obvious claim.

It's that simple.

Expect more of this sort of truth movement as we move closer to the 50th anniversary of the Dealey Plaza coup d'etat. I am afraid but I know just beneath the surface that Greer killed Kennedy.
__________________
Charles Drago

 

[obtuseobserver]

really?

the thread getting the most bumps is about an assassination that happened 50 years ago?

 

[porsteamboy]

Only a wack job like yourself would deny and ignore Greer's arm crossing in Nix. You compeltely fail at what you're trying to achieve. The visual evidence is in the nix and muchmore films which both show Greer's left arm crossing. You haven't and never will convince people that you are anything but a tool who has failed to do anything but repeat the same lies. The only thing left to talk about in this case is the truth about Greer. Many people have agreed with me on forums but most are simply in denial. The masses, which are not on forums will side with the obvious fact that Greer shot jfk.

Ive been on alot of forums that you were on and they all think you are a wack job. The few that agreed with you are sick like you...please get some help!

 

[7forever]

Ive been on alot of forums that you were on and they all think you are a wack job. The few that agreed with you are sick like you...please get some help!

It does not matter if they disagreed with me only that they never challenged the video evidence that proves he shot jfk and that's all that matters. I raped everyone of them including your dumb ass. You will never defend the grassy knoll lie because you know it's a very easy lie to expose. If Greer didn't shoot jfk then who did? It wasn't the right side and it certainly wasn't from the rear. Greer was in the only position to create the right rear exit and you know this and have known that as fact for one year.

 

[Kyuubi]

You are a complete wack job. The visual evidence is in your sick mind only. You haven't and never will convince people to see your imaginary gun. The only thing left to talk about in this case, how you need mental help... so please gets some help!

I can see the "gun" he's talking about. I guess what makes it so bad is that he doesn't realize that his "gun" is an optical illusion from both the eyes and the combination with the grainy film quality, and that he outright rejects it any possibility of it without a 2nd thought. Honestly with him doing the same stuff on 20+ different sites, for at least several months that I'm aware of, I doubt there's much to accomplish in following him around calling him bat crap crazy at the same places. Don't waste your time demonstrating something he already demonstrates by himself. He's physically incapable of holding rational debates at so many venues (he's copy + pasting without addressing issues to individuals), and if he were interested in it he'd have spent time on one or two addressing the concerns of his respondents directly.

 

[porsteamboy]

It does not matter if they disagreed with me only that they never challenged the video evidence that proves he shot jfk and that's all that matters. I raped everyone of them including your dumb ass. You will never defend the grassy knoll lie because you know it's a very easy lie to expose. If Greer didn't shoot jfk then who did? It wasn't the right side and it certainly wasn't from the rear. Greer was in the only position to create the right rear exit and you know this and have known that as fact for one year.

There is no video evidence that Geer held and fired a gun, none, and you have known it from day one. Thats why you claim the Z-film was altered because no one sees the gun, not even you. Like I said before the only thing you raped was your sense of reality. You told me that Greer shot JFK with a .38 revolver and I told you that all the doctors and witnesses described JFK's head as being exploded, then I told you that there's only one weapon that would cause a bursting head wound, and that would be a high velocity rifle. A super sonic bullet ( 2000fps or above ) causing a tempoary cavity in its wake, which increases pressure within the skull and burst the skull at the sutures. And your answer, the Z-film was altered and the head explosion was painted in. Your entrenched in the Greer delusion and you think if you post enough disinformation that you'll get people to join your delusion, not going to happen!

 

[porsteamboy]

I can see the "gun" he's talking about. I guess what makes it so bad is that he doesn't realize that his "gun" is an optical illusion from both the eyes and the combination with the grainy film quality, and that he outright rejects it any possibility of it without a 2nd thought. Honestly with him doing the same stuff on 20+ different sites, for at least several months that I'm aware of, I doubt there's much to accomplish in following him around calling him bat crap crazy at the same places. Don't waste your time demonstrating something he already demonstrates by himself. He's physically incapable of holding rational debates at so many venues (he's copy + pasting without addressing issues to individuals), and if he were interested in it he'd have spent time on one or two addressing the concerns of his respondents directly.

I was here long before 7Forever, so I'm not following him around, calling him bat shit crazy is having a rational debate with 7forever.

 

[7forever]

Mocking a delusional and beaten fool

There is no video evidence that Geer held and fired a gun, none, and you have known it from day one. Thats why you claim the Z-film was altered because no one sees the gun, not even you. Like I said before the only thing you raped was your sense of reality. You told me that Greer shot JFK with a .38 revolver and I told you that all the doctors and witnesses described JFK's head as being exploded, then I told you that there's only one weapon that would cause a bursting head wound, and that would be a high velocity rifle. A super sonic bullet ( 2000fps or above ) causing a tempoary cavity in its wake, which increases pressure within the skull and burst the skull at the sutures. And your answer, the Z-film was altered and the head explosion was painted in. Your entrenched in the Greer delusion and you think if you post enough disinformation that you'll get people to join your delusion, not going to happen!

There is video evidence that Greer held and fired a gun and you have known that for at least one year. Thats why I show him clearly passing the gun in Zapruder and show beautifully his left arm crossing in Nix. You know these as facts but deny and ignore them so you can stick to your delusions.

Like I said before the only thing you've done is deny reality and rarely even try to point the finger at anyone or another place besides the driver's seat. You told me the grassy knoll is where the shot was fired but failed to provide any evidence that it could have happened and when I showed you it was impossible you ignored it.

I told you that doctors and witnesses described JFK's head as being exploded with a large right rear exit. Then I showed the exit in frame 337 and also showed you mountains of evidence of a small entrance over the right eye which is consistent only with Greer's position. In fact, Greer himself cleared that up in his own testimony.LOL

The wound path was caused by a hv revolver which was reported by Betzner and Hill. The Z-film was altered and the head explosion was painted in. You're entrenched in the the grassy knoll illusion and you think if you post enough disinformation about that lie you'll get people to join your delusion, that's not gonna happen!LOL It's so easy to mock idiots like yourself because I am telling an obvious truth and will continue to do so without a challenge from a single soul.

 

[7forever]

I can see the "gun" he's talking about. I guess what makes it so bad is that he doesn't realize that his "gun" is an optical illusion from both the eyes and the combination with the grainy film quality, and that he outright rejects it any possibility of it without a 2nd thought. Honestly with him doing the same stuff on 20+ different sites, for at least several months that I'm aware of, I doubt there's much to accomplish in following him around calling him bat crap crazy at the same places. Don't waste your time demonstrating something he already demonstrates by himself. He's physically incapable of holding rational debates at so many venues (he's copy + pasting without addressing issues to individuals), and if he were interested in it he'd have spent time on one or two addressing the concerns of his respondents directly.

You can and do see the "gun" I'm talking about. I guess what makes it so bad is that you do realize that the reflection" is an optical illusion from both the eyes and the combination with the grainy film quality but you continue to act like it's a real reflection when it's obviously fake.

You outright reject reality and continue to post random nonsense that amounts to nothing because you have nothing of any significance to offer. You don't waste your time debating because you are incapable of challenging an obvious fact so you keep repeating the same horseshit about the fake reflection being real when that's not even relevant any longer because film alteration has been proven by showing Greer's arm cross in Nix.

 

[Kyuubi]

I was here long before 7Forever, so I'm not following him around,

My apologies for jumping the gun.

You can and do see the "gun" I'm talking about.

Yeah, just like you "see" these guys standing up straight.
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8426/mindfuck123571403086265.jpg
The images may seem innocuous and plain silly to most people but it illustrates my point; The human brain interprets visual data differently and you can see things which aren't actually there. The image context, and movement without careful analysis can "fool the eye" much easier than you think. After spending what you say is a year investigating these videos one would think you'd have picked up on a simple concept, which BTW ruins your entire case. Amateurish, AND total lack of skepticism, your brand is not much different than that of the 9/11 truthers, sorry I'm losing interest in that game.

 

[porsteamboy]

There is video evidence that Greer held and fired a gun and you have known that for at least one year. Thats why I show him clearly passing the gun in Zapruder and show beautifully his left arm crossing in Nix. You know these as facts but deny and ignore them so you can stick to your delusions.

Like I said before the only thing you've done is deny reality and rarely even try to point the finger at anyone or another place besides the driver's seat. You told me the grassy knoll is where the shot was fired but failed to provide any evidence that it could have happened and when I showed you it was impossible you ignored it.

I told you that doctors and witnesses described JFK's head as being exploded with a large right rear exit. Then I showed the exit in frame 337 and also showed you mountains of evidence of a small entrance over the right eye which is consistent only with Greer's position. In fact, Greer himself cleared that up in his own testimony.LOL

The wound path was caused by a hv revolver which was reported by Betzner and Hill. The Z-film was altered and the head explosion was painted in. You're entrenched in the the grassy knoll illusion and you think if you post enough disinformation about that lie you'll get people to join your delusion, that's not gonna happen!LOL It's so easy to mock idiots like yourself because I am telling an obvious truth and will continue to do so without a challenge from a single soul.

well, you're the only one who has clearly seen Greer passing a gun in the Z-film and the Nix film doesn't show his left arm crossing, thats what you want to see! The grassy knoll shot is not impossible and I told you I was not locked in on that possibility. Two reasons I believe that, one... back and to the left head movement and 2... what you call fake mist is tail splash. When a super sonic bullet enters the head and pressure starts to build forcing brain matter and blood out the enterance. Look on you tube, videos of super sonic bullets going through mellons or a coke can, you'll see tail splash at the entrance. Greer never said that in his testimony about the right eye being an entrance wound, you need to read it again. Betzner and Hill never said they saw Greer with a gun, show me where they said they saw Greer with a gun, you can't. Your truth is only obvious to you...sad!

 

[DodgeFB]

It is sad that 7forever thinks that people are still actually looking at all the "spam" he keeps posting to
'prove" his "illusion". Another sad thing is that he is proud to be known as a "board-killer" with his single topic spamming.

I for one have been tired of this "very old" subject for years. It has been beat to death. And some of us really don't give a damn anymore thanks to crap like this. It is one thing to post an "opinion". But to act like a nagging fish-wife is too much. My wife can tell anyone that "nagging" does not work with me.

So it is time for me to take another "vacation" from here. Since I already know what the "subject of the day" will be for the foreseeable future.

Later people...........

 

[porsteamboy]

http://people.rit.edu/andpph/exhibit-7.html 7Forever Since I know you won't check Youtube, it might challenge your fake mist, I thought I would post this, check out the supersonic bullet going through the lemon, see the entrance, thats tail splatter.

 

[porsteamboy]

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/wit.htm 7Forever, here is a witnesses list, you might want to re-read some testimony and affidavits objectively, if thats possible. This from Hugh Betzner's affidavit..." I also saw a man in either the Pesident car or the car behind his and someone down in one of those cars pulled out what looked like a rifle. I also remember seeing what looked like a nickle revolver in someones hand in the Presidents car or somewhere Immediately around his car". If you read the written statements of the SS agents in the follow up car, they state most of the agents had their revolvers drawn. SA Roberts, SA McIntyre, SA Bennett and SA Landis all stated such. Don't you think that Betzner saw one of the agents guns in the follow up car? This is from mrs .Hill testimony before the WC... Mrs. HIll... No; I never saw a weapon during the whole time, in anyones hand. Now, where did they say Greer had a gun in his hand? You really need to re-read SA greers testimony before the WC, he was explaining were the fragments on the X-rays stopped..."They showed were it didn't come through. It came to a sinus cavity or something they said, over the the right eye".

 

[7forever]

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