Is there a right to health care?

Jan 2012
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No but we're signatories to the UN Charter so the UN has the force of law.

The constitution is the law of the land regardless of what wprld club we belong to. when a supreme court justice rules on something they dont reference the un declaration the un declaration is in fact meani.ess with regard to us law.

No un law takes president in our nation. Study law for about five min and that would be clear.
 
Aug 2012
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I dont give a flying **** about what the un or other countries say, and no it isnt law here, the costitution and bill of rights are top law here.

What do icare of the rest of the world, I live in the us.

It is law in America, I suggest you go learn something before posting. America signed up for it in 1948.
 
Jan 2012
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It is law in America, I suggest you go learn something before posting. America signed up for it in 1948.

supereme law is the constitution, ask a supreme court justice what oath they take to up hold. It is not a un declaration. They didnt deliberate on the un declaration when deciding weather to go ahead with obama care. Only the constitution.

Supreme law is the constitution. That is it, there is no silly words you can use to get around it un is beneath it, no matter what the fact is constitution is supreme law, regardless of shich treaty we sign.

You know nothing of the government in the usa.
 
Jul 2009
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supereme law is the constitution, ask a supreme court justice what oath they take to up hold. It is not a un declaration. They didnt deliberate on the un declaration when deciding weather to go ahead with obama care. Only the constitution.

Supreme law is the constitution. That is it, there is no silly words you can use to get around it un is beneath it, no matter what the fact is constitution is supreme law, regardless of shich treaty we sign.

You know nothing of the government in the usa.

As I quoted from the Constitution, treaties are the supreme law of the land. We're signatories to the UN Charter making it equal (so long as it doesn't counter the Constitution) in legal standing. The Declaration of Human Rights in no way counters the Constitution and so is the 'supreme law of the land' as per Article 6.
 
Jan 2012
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As I quoted from the Constitution, treaties are the supreme law of the land. We're signatories to the UN Charter making it equal (so long as it doesn't counter the Constitution) in legal standing. The Declaration of Human Rights in no way counters the Constitution and so is the 'supreme law of the land' as per Article 6.

The declaration of human rights isnt a treaty, involvement in the un is but that isnt the same thing.

Really the wording in the declearation of human rights has nothing to do with health care. Being health care is care given by professionals. health care is a product or service, health is general well being.

So even with the un decblah blah blah there is no right to health care.
 
Aug 2012
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supereme law is the constitution, ask a supreme court justice what oath they take to up hold. It is not a un declaration. They didnt deliberate on the un declaration when deciding weather to go ahead with obama care. Only the constitution.

Supreme law is the constitution. That is it, there is no silly words you can use to get around it un is beneath it, no matter what the fact is constitution is supreme law, regardless of shich treaty we sign.

You know nothing of the government in the usa.

Obviously I know more than you do. You were wrong,just accept it.
 
Jan 2012
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Obviously I know more than you do. You were wrong,just accept it.

Well you haven't backed up you self with anything but your own heresay so it appears you know nothing. Tell me how any declaration trumps the rule in my country.

You can't so therefore you are unable to back up your notions. You are just a lone opinion, frankly one in a nation with savere problems. Talking about ours takes your mind off of yours. So nice job.

You know more than me? Ha ha ha okay. Knowing what you know convence me.
 
Aug 2012
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Well you haven't backed up you self with anything but your own heresay so it appears you know nothing. Tell me how any declaration trumps the rule in my country.

I never said it trumps the rule of your country, I said it was law in your country. Try reading what I say not what you made up.
 
Jan 2012
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I never said it trumps the rule of your country, I said it was law in your country. Try reading what I say not what you made up.

Its kind of redundant, because there was already a law regarding that to beginwith. So ots a match on a fire.
 
Jan 2012
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Debatable.

True it is debatable, really the treaty is the un itself, but we do generally follow the princaples listed therein. But we don't have to.

But to get back to the topic, healthcare is not mentionened, just health. Health is a very broad term, if it includes health care, that means all health care correct?
 
Aug 2012
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Just saying someone is wrong is mindless contradiction. Why am I wrong.

It is a fact you were wrong..you must learn to get over it and move on. You could not even keep track of what I actually stated.
 
Aug 2012
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True it is debatable, really the treaty is the un itself, but we do generally follow the princaples listed therein. But we don't have to.

But to get back to the topic, healthcare is not mentionened, just health. Health is a very broad term, if it includes health care, that means all health care correct?

I even posted it up for you to learn something and you did not. It says medical care which is health care. Here you go..

The UN declaration on Human Rights,

Article 25.


  • (1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
 
Jan 2012
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It is a fact you were wrong..you must learn to get over it and move on. You could not even keep track of what I actually stated.

Who are you to say I am wrong? with no factual evidence that is just an opinion. I will listen to any fact you have.

I will not be swayed by words bent through your prism of hatred.
 
Jan 2012
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I even posted it up for you to learn something and you did not. It says medical care which is health care. Here you go..

The UN declaration on Human Rights,

Article 25.


  • (1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.

okay, great, so medical care to prevent desiese and injury or treat desiese and injury is the same thing as health care?

health care includes all health does it not? social health, proper nitrition, proper exercise, mental health, so on.

I agree that people should be treated for injury and deises, and even helped to prevent injury and desiese. that is medical care.


sense the english language eludes you I will take the liberty of providing you with some third grade definitions

med·i·cal (md-kl)
adj.
1. Of or relating to the study or practice of medicine.
2. Requiring treatment by medicine.

health (hlth)
n.
1. The overall condition of an organism at a given time.
2. Soundness, especially of body or mind; freedom from disease or abnormality.
3. A condition of optimal well-being
 
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