Religion, God, and politics

Jan 2012
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Texas
I want to start this thread for just discussion about the title.

All three of the subjects touch on sore spots for so many people, I just wonder why?

First is religion, for obvious reasons religion is a controversial topic. Some religions seek to convert all people to that religion, some times by any means. I never understood why it was necessary for some religions to say others are wrong. I see this in just about every religion, including the non-religious groups. Truth is nobody knows, weather you read this book or that study there is no way to know. The only problem that occurs is when the reliefs majority controls the non religious minority. Even though I am sort of religious I have been opposed by the religous majority. Morality is really culture based, not at all religion based. The culture always seems to manipulate subjective religious caveats to suitthe culture. Some take written word as literal meaning. Non religious people seem to be fed up serving a God they do not worship. It seems the first amendment really needs to be understood much better, and regarded with much more respect than it currently gets.

God, the word has meaning regardless of the particular one you worship if you worship one at all. something I have learned recently is that when somebody says that God wants, likes, hates, loves, or approves of something, the person saying such things is speaking for God, ineffect attempting to be God. It is generally done out of manipulation, to either coerce "acceptable" behavior, monitary or asset donation, our in a rare occasion to actually reduce human suffering. Instead of weather or not God wants us to behave this way our worship him that way, (as a berliner in God myself) why not simply serve people, just about every religious text I have read says that trying people well is treating God well, if there is a God it is not right for us to assume he picks and chooses which of his people he loves more, there fore us that strive to be godlike need to treat his people as ours. Weather such people worship him or not.

Politics, I grit my teeth more every time I hear that word, my profession is highly political, as Iassume most people who have periodontal careers have noticed to. But I really wanted to link it to religion. In the past couple of elections I have noticed a (IMO) overly emphasis on the spiritual beliefs of our candidates. It seems odd. Particularly the religious background of our current president. Many Christians are telling me he is a Muslim, Obama supporters are telling me he is a Christian, it is clear he has at least some Muslim background he has a Muslim middle name, but what difference does that make. There are some muslims that would kill those that choose not to follow, but that exists in all religions westburough baptist church comes to mind. Even such elements exist in atheist groups. It is the nature of people, not a religion.


Thoughts?
 
Feb 2012
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England
Religion and politics should NEVER mix. Each surely is a personal choice and why should someones religious belief be inflicted on those who do not share it?
 
Mar 2011
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Rhondda, Cymru
Jesus set up the socialist movement, so it is difficult to separate Christianity from politics, since its present leaders are denying the New Testament in a disgusting way. This matters, since the likelihood of there being a God is now small.
 
Jan 2012
1,975
5
Texas
Jesus set up the socialist movement, so it is difficult to separate Christianity from politics, since its present leaders are denying the New Testament in a disgusting way. This matters, since the likelihood of there being a God is now small.

Okay..............
 
Nov 2012
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Salt Lake City, Utah
You can never separate religion from politics. In a very real sense, religion is THE fundamental difference between cultures, and no matter how you slice it, the value system of each is hopelessly intertwined in it's laws.

That said, North American democracy has probably done a better job of separation then most, probably with the exception of Northern Europe.
 
Jan 2012
1,975
5
Texas
You can never separate religion from politics. In a very real sense, religion is THE fundamental difference between cultures, and no matter how you slice it, the value system of each is hopelessly intertwined in it's laws.

That said, North American democracy has probably done a better job of separation then most, probably with the exception of Northern Europe.

I honestly think religion is a poetical system unto itself. It has it's own law, it's own officials it's own rank structure.
 
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