Porn vs Prostitution

[Delta]

Given this thread here: http://www.politicalfray.com/showthread.php?p=2684#post2684

I was wondering what the difference is between porn and prostitution. I mean, porn is legal in the US and it's basically the same thing - having sex for money - yet prostitution is illegal in all but two states (I think).

I don't really understand how one can be justified and the other not.

 

[Glee]

Porn isn't Prostitution because Porn is a legitimate business, and businesses make money for the government. Meaning that the employees have to follow standard health practices (which costs money into various health/government organizations), and the government can collect taxes from all the business expenses as well as DVD sales. Prostitution is only illegal because its not regulated and can't be taxed. I mean there is no way control sex enough to make a profit from it, that's why it's illegal.
Well that's what I think.

 

[Delta]

I think it would be the businesses who would be responsible for following standard health practices - any costs would be on them I assume. So what I'm asking is why is it illegal to make prostitution a legitimate business?

I mean I'm sure there are illegitimate basement porn companies as well that are avoiding taxation etc. but that doesn't make the legit ones illegal.

Shouldn't the same laws extend to prostitution?

 

[Glee]

The reason it's illegal to start an official prostitution ring is this. You can make the business, but you can't stop other people from doing it as well. You can try, but you can't really regulate it. How can you be 100% effective on such a thing as sex? You never know when people are humping each other's bones. And if you had this legal prostitution business, it's bound to have to follow some tedious rules and processes customers would just find annoying. Which would make them look for cheaper and quicker methods. That, and of course the moral crusaders will starts Bible thumping to the point of annoyance.

 

[Delta]

The reason it's illegal to start an official prostitution ring is this. You can make the business, but you can't stop other people from doing it as well. You can try, but you can't really regulate it. How can you be 100% effective on such a thing as sex? You never know when people are humping each other's bones. And if you had this legal prostitution business, it's bound to have to follow some tedious rules and processes customers would just find annoying. Which would make them look for cheaper and quicker methods. That, and of course the moral crusaders will starts Bible thumping to the point of annoyance.

I agree that there is no way to stop other from doing it illegally - but you could say that for any business. Just because there are laws against it doesn't mean people are going to do it - but at least there would be the option of doing it legally. When it comes down to it, I think a lot of people would prefer to pay the extra few bucks to do it safely.

So the argument still stands - there is no difference between porn and prostitution and the laws should reflect that. Both would still be done both legally and illegally, safely and riskily (what a strange word), premium and off the street variety.

 

[bluefox21]

It's funny how people changes from one country to another. Here, both porn and prostitution it's illegal, and if you are on a date and you say that you've been with a prostitute, nothing happens, but a girl will hate you if you are onto porn. What government does with prostitution is to regulate, and with street prostitutes, they have rules like specific zones and hours where they can be. If a prostitute is offering her services at 4pm, in front of a kindergarten, she will go to jail, just to put an example.

 

[GekiDan]

Well.. To my understanding, porn is a business more simply like an adult movie. It's legal when you're selling it to people 18 years and above. Porn would be illegal, when the stars are minors and they could file you a case against anti-child abuse.

Prostitution, on the other hand, is illegal is the sense that you are selling you own body for sex to earn money. And thus, if you have STD, it can be spread to various people.

 

[Delta]

Well.. To my understanding, porn is a business more simply like an adult movie. It's legal when you're selling it to people 18 years and above. Porn would be illegal, when the stars are minors and they could file you a case against anti-child abuse.

Prostitution, on the other hand, is illegal is the sense that you are selling you own body for sex to earn money. And thus, if you have STD, it can be spread to various people.

From what I've just researched I think that is the argument given. That an adult movie is made and the actors/actresses are providing entertainment and are not doing it for the purpose of sexual arousal for anyone directly involved (actors/directors) etc. whereas in prostitution, the prostitute is being paid to directly sexual satisfy the client.

To me, that is a terrible argument that doesn't make sense whatsoever. The act is still the same, what difference does it make whether it was for entertainment or for sexual stimulation. Sexual pleasure could be seen as just another form of entertainment in my opinion.

 

[GekiDan]

To me, that is a terrible argument that doesn't make sense whatsoever. The act is still the same, what difference does it make whether it was for entertainment or for sexual stimulation. Sexual pleasure could be seen as just another form of entertainment in my opinion.

Since you pointed that out, even the actors/actresses of porn movies still get sexual pleasure when they are doing the scene. Do you think it is also prostitution in different form? Because they are also being paid to do it.

 

[Delta]

Since you pointed that out, even the actors/actresses of porn movies still get sexual pleasure when they are doing the scene. Do you think it is also prostitution in different form? Because they are also being paid to do it.

Exactly, that's the argument I'm trying to make. I mean, the act and the pleasure is the same regardless of the intent.

 

[The Parakeet]

A number of more famous actresses even own their own company's, so the line gets really thin. Pretty pointless and arbitrary.

 

[leanne1974]

when i get frustrated I'd much rather pay an extr?30 for a regulated honey that's getting treated well and not full of pin holes. plus i wouldn't have to spend hours cleaning up the car every weekend so he doesn't find out.

I would argue that pornography is not prostitution as many Soft core films would be no more intrusive than a lap dance

 

[Sparks]

thin, very very thin

The line between the two is thin. Porn, how ever, we (in the sense of an audience) are watching the activity while in prostitution, we are participating, at least theoretically. The argument might be that the creation of the porn is prostitution, since they are doing it for money.

I have no high ground here, I admire sexuality in many of its forms and it is up to the individuals themselves to decide what is correct or acceptable for themselves.

As for controlling prostitution in order to protect the public health, they haven't got a clue. There is a whole lot of free (non-profit) activity that will never be under the authorities thumb.

 

[Delta]

As for controlling prostitution in order to protect the public health, they haven't got a clue. There is a whole lot of free (non-profit) activity that will never be under the authorities thumb.

Definitely, I'm really not sure it has anything to do with public health at all. People are going to have sex regardless. The fact that it is for money doesn't make it any more dangerous than picking up a random at the bar and taking them home for a night of pleasure I see quite a lot of that being at University, and man... the personal stories I hear about STIs - it's enough to scare you away from random sex for life.

 

[Glee]

Maybe I'm a prude, but I could never just have random sex. I dunno, I have to feel something for the person... If it's just some pretty person I picked up, I don't think I could get into it.

Anyway that's what I think...

 

[Delta]

Maybe I'm a prude, but I could never just have random sex. I dunno, I have to feel something for the person... If it's just some pretty person I picked up, I don't think I could get into it.

Anyway that's what I think...

Hmm, I don't think you're a prude. I think a lot of people believe the same thing... probably more so women than men just from various discussions I've had.

For me, if the girl was attractive enough and I knew she was clean, then I'd be all for it. Of course it wouldn't be meaningful and probably not as emtionally satisfying, but for guys I think the physical pleasure is less dependent on emotional feelings compared to girls.

Again, this is just from what I've heard from girls and guys and is probably not accurate for everyone

 

[GekiDan]

As for controlling prostitution in order to protect the public health, they haven't got a clue. There is a whole lot of free (non-profit) activity that will never be under the authorities thumb.

Well... I saw some of that on the net. They said, they are protecting public health by teaching people how to do it properly so they can stay away from infections.

 

[Glee]

I cant believe this topic is still being posted on. Every time I log on, lol. You pent up fellas you!

 

[Sparks]

I cant believe this topic is still being posted on. Every time I log on, lol. You pent up fellas you!

Yes, Glee, you have it nailed. We are a pent up lot, on the whole. Sadly, the Romans won, the Etruscans lost and we ended up with a much more repressed society.

 

[omej]

Lol at those two last comments. The first thing I see when I log in are two threads in two forums, both with "prostituion" in them.