Not really, I just see public education as a means to educate our children in the aspects of life that they will NEED to SUCCEED. Knowing how to calculate, what things are, how we got where we are, and what we can become. Myth and Imagination most certainly have a place...but these are not the things they must know, instead what they CAN know.
Not really, I just see public education as a means to educate our children in the aspects of life that they will NEED to SUCCEED. Knowing how to calculate, what things are, how we got where we are, and what we can become. Myth and Imagination most certainly have a place...but these are not the things they must know, instead what they CAN know.
A student don't NEED to know history ether unless they're going into the military or archaeology. Religious studies as an elective is something to be encouraged.
Okay....I suppose allow our youth to manage the country without understanding the mistakes made in the past would be just peachy.
But allowing them to run the country with no regard to sectarian differences will work out just fine...
And you just proved my point. History is a plus for the reason you just pointed out despite being of no practical, everyday use to most people. How is religion any different?
And theater isn't?
Think about the bigest waste, sports. Sports add no value whatsoever to education but that doesn't stop school districts from blowing millions on stadiums.
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Religion is not fundamental to anything except itself. Is religion deeply rooted in history? Yes, of course. So I have no problem with public schools teaching the "History of religion" or "Religion in history". But teaching kids to be "religious"??? No way. Not using my tax dollars.
As for teaching evolution. There is no need to teach it as if it were a "substitute theology" for religion..... Just teach science and history. Evolution will be covered within their scope.
I don't know why everyone Carries on about evolution as if it were the most important thing to learn, it really is of no consequence, I mean not as much as math and language skills, social skills.
Honestly if we found out that one day man was dumped here by a race of giant purple gorillas in space would it really make anything any different?
It seems this issue carrys with it some spiritual meaning, as thought it is a lynch pin that hoods all beliefs together, that by pulling this lynch pin all religions will collapse like a house of cards. It just doesn't work that way.
Mostly due to the push for I.D in schools. There was no push, or getting "Carried Away" until people began trying to teach our kids religious interpretation of accepted fact.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science."
- Charles Darwin, Descent of Man, Introduction (1871)
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"Creationism" is religious doctrine and not science; and the religious proselytizers need to face up to the fact. Darwin's theory of evolution has been well established by scientific evidence. Indeed, we are on the threshold of harnessing the genetic code, the very engine of creation. Surely, we can sustain progress without casting aspersions on the truth. It is time that religion cease being the altar of superstition upon which knowledge and reason are sacrificed for the sake of ignorance and stupidity.
- Charles Darwin, Descent of Man, Introduction (1871)
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"Creationism" is religious doctrine and not science; and the religious proselytizers need to face up to the fact. Darwin's theory of evolution has been well established by scientific evidence. Indeed, we are on the threshold of harnessing the genetic code, the very engine of creation. Surely, we can sustain progress without casting aspersions on the truth. It is time that religion cease being the altar of superstition upon which knowledge and reason are sacrificed for the sake of ignorance and stupidity.
Thinking the world is younger then recorded history and that we all just poofed into existence doesn't tend toward intelligent governance and social development.
I makes a difference, as the idea behind school is to teach our children the realities of past present and prepare them for a future.
Of course it has consequence. Evolution is a major part of why we are the way we are. It is a basis for genetic difference and from a practical standpoint and the way that medicine is headed, genetics is going to be a very important part of future care even for the everyday patient as therapies are customized to individuals.
Darwin’s theory of evolution by natural selection has been established by proof based upon empirical evidence and verified by genetic experimentation on plants and animals, and overwhelmingly accepted by the scientific community. Contrast to this are the claims of "Creationists" paraded as science under the rubric of "Intelligent Design" that is based on the assumption that life was created, which, of necessity, assumes the existence of a "Creator." Such argument is mere speculation and inconsistent with scientific method, for it is nothing more than a presumption that is not evidence, much less proof. The same arguments and challenges to evolution advanced by the proponents of "Intelligent Design" were proved to have no support in the scientific community and ruled to be religious doctrine and not science. SeeTammy Kitzmiller, et al. v. Dover Area School District, et al., 400 F.Supp.2d 707 (M.D. Pa. 2005). To posit creationism as a theological explanation is one thing; but to posture it as science is unsupportable if not outright dishonest, and only reflects discredit upon religious belief.
I really think it is completely irrelevant how the earth came to be, weather it just poofed one day our took billions of years, doesn't change the fact that it is here now, any speculation on its formation is just a self indulgent desire to prove that either existence matters our it doesn't.
But aside from the irrelevant study of the origin of the earth, I actually believe that evolution and the coalescence of our currant state is in absolutely no opposition to creation, its just that the biblical story is just that a story, written over 4000 years ago, by people who didn't have the sophisticated society that we have today. Given their limited abilities it is really quite intelligent in the auther's part to know the world existed before people.
Our past, I agree, but how does knowing the existence of life began with primordial ooze" help anybody?
Take this for example of nobody ever taught about the origin of the species, just didn't at all what would be different?
Kids are graduating not knowing how to read, who gives a (insert for letter word here) about evolution, creation, purple space gorilla theory. It matters not, only people who deeply question their existence worry about such huey. Or people trying to get the other political side to knuckle under. Mean while kids are leaving school less and less educated in the things that really matter like math and language.
There should be a cursory mention of evolution as an origin in science class, not sure where creation fits in, except when discussing man kinds first arrival, again it should only be "some people believe blah blah blah" and that's it. If people are tying up political discourse over such silly semantics, I think some people have to much time on their hands and they are not even focusing on the important stuff.
But public school is a complete joke, I learned so much more by self study that I see no need for public school but to teach fundamentals, math, reading, writing, history, science. Forget the religious crap both sides of the argument need to be dropped
Well considering they knew that humans need the Earth to survive, I don't think it was much of a leap. Even if they didn't somehow know that, it was a 50/50 shot in the dark. I wouldn't call them intelligent for that assumption in either scenario.
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