How Much Blame Should Go To Trayvon Martin's Parents ?

Dec 2012
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The tragic George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin case and all the media attention around it seems to have overlooked something important. Trayvon Martin was a minor (17 years old) who committed a violent criminal act. He tried to kill somebody (George Zimmerman). He also was found with women's jewelry in his possession, which he had no explanation for. He also had no explanation for possessing a screwdriver (great for prying open windows), in the same backpack that he had this mysterious jewelry He also was a suspicious character walking around in housing complex late at night, in the rain.

So, being a minor and all these suspicions & transgressions associated with him, how come nobody is looking at the culpability of Trayvon Martin's parents ? (when there are parents of other minors who are serving time in jail for what their kids did)

And what about the idea that Trayvon was not schooled by his parents to be aware of the dangers of the adult world in Florida ? Trayvon's last 12 years were spent in a school environment where thugs are free to go around bullying other kids, while spineless school officials, not wanting to get involved, look the other way. Could it be that Trayvon (unschooled by his parents of the dangers of the streets) just went around acting like the mean streets were equivalent to his little do-what-you-want schoolyard ? Could it be that his parents never mentioned to him that Florida has a concealed weapons license law, and that millions of people in Florida walk the streets carrying guns ? Could it be that Trayvon thought his encounter with George Zimmerman would be just another schoolyard type beating he could lay on somebody, with no questions asked ? I can't help getting the feeling that young (and very naive) Trayvon was like a little toddler wandering in a bear's den, oblivious to the danger. So how do his parents fit into this ?

Lastly, I noticed today on the TV news shows that Trayvon's father was seeking to upgrade Trayvon's name form being cast as a thug. Hmmmm. Could this be because he would like to have less attention paid to the negligence that he and Trayvon's mother exhibited, which might have allowed Trayvon to develop into being a thug, ....just to cover their own asses ?
 
Oct 2012
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Louisville, Ky
As the parents were not involved in any way with the altercation that led to the death of their child, they are not responsible for it. The upbringing does not come into play when we consider the facts of the incident, unless we wish to blame them for his attire, love of skittles, or for not driving him to the store.
 
Dec 2012
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Florida
As the parents were not involved in any way with the altercation that led to the death of their child, they are not responsible for it. The upbringing does not come into play when we consider the facts of the incident, unless we wish to blame them for his attire, love of skittles, or for not driving him to the store.

Sounds like the OP went right over your head. Either that or you've incorporated a built-in obligation to disagree with me at any opportunity. Sure seems that way.
 
Aug 2012
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North Texas
As the parents were not involved in any way with the altercation that led to the death of their child, they are not responsible for it. The upbringing does not come into play when we consider the facts of the incident, unless we wish to blame them for his attire, love of skittles, or for not driving him to the store.

Agreed. I fail to see how any parent is responsible for the fact their child was shot while walking home after purchasing a canned tea and Skittles.

A better question would be "Should Zimmerman's parents be held responsible for the actions of their murdering son?"

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Dec 2012
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Florida
Agreed. I fail to see how any parent is responsible for the fact their child was shot while walking home after purchasing a canned tea and Skittles.

No need to "fail to see". Just reading the OP can keep you from failing to see.

"And what about the idea that Trayvon was not schooled by his parents to be aware of the dangers of the adult world in Florida ? Trayvon's last 12 years were spent in a school environment where thugs are free to go around bullying other kids, while spineless school officials, not wanting to get involved, look the other way. Could it be that Trayvon (unschooled by his parents of the dangers of the streets) just went around acting like the mean streets were equivalent to his little do-what-you-want schoolyard ? Could it be that his parents never mentioned to him that Florida has a concealed weapons license law, and that millions of people in Florida walk the streets carrying guns ? Could it be that Trayvon thought his encounter with George Zimmerman would be just another schoolyard type beating he could lay on somebody, with no questions asked ?"
 
Dec 2012
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Florida
A better question would be "Should Zimmerman's parents be held responsible for the actions of their murdering son?"

Neither you or anyone else inside this forum, or outside of it, has produced one shred of evidence that George Zimmerman ever murdered anybody. You are talking NONSENSE. Think you have some evidence ? Let's hear it.
 
Dec 2012
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Florida
Agreed. I fail to see how any parent is responsible for the fact their child was shot while walking home after purchasing a canned tea and Skittles.

Do you also fail to see how any parent is responsible for the fact their child was shot while walking home after purchasing a canned tea and Skittles, and then attacking somebody, and committing the crimes of battery and attempted murder ?
 
Dec 2012
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Florida
If there was no provocation, then why is an unarmed child dead?

Of course, there was a provocation. Who said there wasn't ? Obviously, the provocation was Trayvon attacking George, and beating on him. Are you only person in America who doesn't know that ? :giggle:
 
Jul 2009
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Of course, there was a provocation. Who said there wasn't ? Obviously, the provocation was Trayvon attacking George, and beating on him. Are you only person in America who doesn't know that ? :giggle:

Again, the man pulled a gun and ended up on the wrong side of a fight/flight response. This isn't a point you can win on.
 
Aug 2012
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North Texas
Of course, there was a provocation. Who said there wasn't ? Obviously, the provocation was Trayvon attacking George, and beating on him. Are you only person in America who doesn't know that ? :giggle:

Obviously? What's obvious? There was no blood nor injuries on Martin except for the 9mm hole in his young chest. I suspect, sir, that you are highly biased in this case. Your other threads also seem to indicate a trend of bias. Am I correct? If not, please tell me you aren't a racist, that you strongly support "Truth, Justice and the American Way" for every American citizen.
 
Dec 2012
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Florida
Again, the man pulled a gun and ended up on the wrong side of a fight/flight response. This isn't a point you can win on.

A man pulled a gun with which to defend himself from an attacker, and ended up on the right side of a self-defense act. This is a point I and the defense won on weeks ago.
 
Dec 2012
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Florida
Obviously? What's obvious? There was no blood nor injuries on Martin except for the 9mm hole in his young chest. I suspect, sir, that you are highly biased in this case. Your other threads also seem to indicate a trend of bias. Am I correct? If not, please tell me you aren't a racist, that you strongly support "Truth, Justice and the American Way" for every American citizen.

What's obvious ? That M attacked Z, beat on him, and his dumb ass shot in the process, and 2 eyewitnesses (John Goode & Austin Brown) reported their stories to both the police and the news media. This was weeks ago. And you still now (June 26) don't know it ? :giggle: Pheeeeeww!! (High pitched whistle) And now the race card ? HA HA HA.

Trayvon Martin Attacking George Zimmermann Screaming "Help!" according to Neighbor - YouTube

Second witness confirms Trayvon was attacker - YouTube

George Zimmerman BLOODY NOSE Picture Released IN COLOR - High Quality - YouTube
 
May 2012
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The motherland
Martin was a problem kid from Florida and he was suspended from high school because he was implicated in jewellery theft and he obviously looked suspicious wearing a hoodie when he was walking through a gated community where he was staying as a guest. And Zimmerman also has a history of violence and both Martin and Zimmerman are equally responsible for what happened. Zimmerman had no authority to pursue a suspect and arrest him and he was only supposed to report suspicious activities in his neighbourhood to the police. Martin may have jumped on Zimmerman first and the fight ensured made him pull the trigger in the end but prosecutors are unable to establish the exact circumstances surrounding the incident so far.

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Rachel Jeantel was the last person to speak on the phone with Martin moments before he was shot to death by Zimmerman on Feb. 26, 2012. She had testified that she "could hear" Martin say "get off" to Zimmerman, although West said that during a taped interview with the prosecutor before the trial she had said that she "couldn't hear." West suggested that prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda coached her to say she could hear Martin.
George Zimmerman Witness Can't Say Who Threw First Punch - ABC News
 
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Aug 2012
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North Texas
A man pulled a gun with which to defend himself from an attacker, and ended up on the right side of a self-defense act. This is a point I and the defense won on weeks ago.

An exaggeration at best. Good thing for Zimmerman the only witness to everything that happened is dead.

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Shot by this guy:

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