9/11 Pentagon conspiracy

Aug 2011
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California
Oh, blow it out your arse. You protect the violent hatemongers. Either you have an evil agenda, or you are the dumbest boob on the planet
 
Jan 2010
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Miami
But I know the old racist charge is the refuge of liberals who are bereft of any original thought.
Shouting racist for the sake of shouting down opponents is despicable in one way, dehumanizing people for the sake of claiming they're incapable of orchestrating a large scale attack; in light of their numerous attacks on US Embassies and places abroad takes a special kind of ignorance. I hope you have a better argument than mud slinging, 'cause you've playin' around for more almost 2 months it looks like. Reminds me of the dehumanizing that the Jim Crow South used to employ for African Americans during the slavery and segregation years... Or maybe you'd prefer an analogy to the dehumanizing names that Asians got during World war II? Islam's pretty damn strict, more than I'd tolerate but you take it to a whole 'nother level.

And never in the history of buildings has a steel structure been taken down so carefully without damaging any of the surrounding building except when it was done using explosives...
Is your definition of clean and careful having every building inside the WTC property destroyed by falling debris from two collapsing buildings? You conspiracy guys calling out controlled demolition seriously like to make these claims without the slightest idea about building design and structural engineering... AE911 is an insult to the profession, it's rightfully a minority
 
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Jul 2013
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Why, after all these years, haven't we seen any clear photos of the "plane" that struck the Pentagon?

Why are there NO HOLES in the Pentagon where the plane's enormous engines would have impacted? Only one engine was found at the Pentagon and it is too small to have come from a Boeing 757.

Why is there NO DAMAGE to the outer wall from the wings?

Where is any identifyable parts like the wings, the fuselage, vertical stabilizer and tail section? They didn't just vaporize.

The Pentagon was attacked on 9/11, but there was absoluty NO PROOF that a commercial airliner/ a Boeing 757 ever struck the Pentagon.
 
Jul 2013
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America
Just because you won't look doesn't mean it isn't there:

snopes.com: Pentagon Attack Faked Rumor

757 Wreckage

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Just because you blindy accept that it did happen, doesn't actually mean that it did.

The link that you provided is equal to :poop:.

Since you obviously believe and accept that a plane struck the Penatgon on 9/11, let me ask you some questions.

How does a Boeing 757 fit into a hole and leave NO DAMAGE or WRECKAGE on the outside of the Pentagon?

Why is a CNN News Reporter saying that there is NO EVIDENCE of a plane crashing into the Pentagon?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07Bn_CC_mrg&safety_mode=true&persist_safety_mode=1&safe=active

If a Boeing was flying at 530mph 2 feet above ground, then why were there NO REPORTS of jet blast or wake turbulence?

A Boeing 757 is 60 Tons and IF a Boeing 757 struck the Pentagon, would it not leave 60 Tons of scrap, NOT a few pieces, like you are implying with the link you provided?

The Pentagon was struck on 9/11 by a remote-controlled DU-weaponized Global Hawk. Global Hawks are extremly light weight about 4 Tons and more than 50% is carbon fiber and resin. That would explain why there was less than 2 Tons of scrap!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1aBFbyN7xY&safety_mode=true&persist_safety_mode=1&safe=active
 
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Aug 2012
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Just because you blindy accept that it did happen, doesn't actually mean that it did.

The link that you provided is equal to :poop:.

Your frustration in not understanding physics is understood. Many people do not.

However, my main reason for not believing in wild conspiracy theories such as our own government being behind 9/11 is not that it isn't possible nor due to scientific invalidity, but due to human psychology.

Conspiracies happen. We conspired to build an atomic weapon before the Germans in WWII. We conspired to kill Osama bin Laden and we did. Why do we know this? Because it's been openly revealed. Keeping things secret only works for so long. Look at the cases of Manning and Snowden or the Pentagon Papers for examples.

Those were cases of simply political disagree, not the wholesale murder of thousands of American citizens. While I think there are certainly a handful of people who would kill thousands of innocent people without blinking an eye, the fact remains most people would not sit for it. A conspiracy on the level of what you are alluding in 9/11 would take hundreds, if not thousands of people to carry out. Keeping such a thing a secret would be impossible over the long term, say 3-4 years, much less over a decade.
 
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Jul 2013
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Your frustration in not understanding physics is understood. Many people do not.

However, my main reason for not believing in wild conspiracy theories such as our own government being behind 9/11 is not that it isn't possible nor due to scientific invalidity, but due to human psychology.

Conspiracies happen. We conspired to build an atomic weapon before the Germans in WWII. We conspired to kill Osama bin Laden and we did. Why do we know this? Because it's been openly revealed. Keeping things secret only works for so long. Look at the cases of Manning and Snowden or the Pentagon Papers for examples.

Those were cases of simply political disagree, not the wholesale murder of thousands of American citizens. While I think there are certainly a handful of people who would kill thousands of innocent people without blinking an eye, the fact remains most people would not sit for it. A conspiracy on the level of what you are alluding in 9/11 would take hundreds, if not thousands of people to carry out. Keeping such a thing a secret would be impossible over the long term, say 3-4 years, much less over a decade.

It's no surprise that you didn't answer a single question from my previous post, nor comment on the video clips.

Your frustration in not understanding physics is understood. Many people do not.
Actually you are wrong. My frustration has nothing to do with physics. I question everything. I don't just blindly accept and believe what the government says, without doing my own research.

However, there are plenty of sheeple who do blindly accept and believe everything the government tells them as truth, even about 9/11. Those kind of people are drunk on KOOL-AID, and have it engrained in their minds that the government DOES NOT LIE. That's laughable.

However, my main reason for not believing in wild conspiracy theories such as our own government being behind 9/11 is not that it isn't possible nor due to scientific invalidity, but due to human psychology.
My main reason for not believing the government, is that they are corrupt, deceitful and full of lies, and not just about 9/11.

So according to you, our own government being behind 9/11 is not possible. After all our government would NEVER hurt or kill anyone, right, or would they? Have you ever heard of Operation Northwoods?

In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.

The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba's then new leader, communist Fidel Castro.

America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."

Operation Northwoods was never implemented in the 1960's, but the idea remained. What's to say that the idea behind Operation Northwoods - to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism was actually implemented on 9/11?
 
Aug 2012
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It's no surprise that you didn't answer a single question from my previous post, nor comment on the video clips.

Dude, the conspiracy theories about 9/11 started the same day. You don't think I've seen all the silly theories popping up on that Internet for the past 12 years?

I've found it to be much more rewarding to study the conspiracy theorists themselves rather than their fantasies.
 
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Jan 2010
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Just because you blindy accept that it did happen, doesn't actually mean that it did.

The link that you provided is equal to :poop:.

I think the real poo is that just like the other 9/11 thread you basically didn't care about any of the research and you saw what you wanted to see.

Since you obviously believe and accept that a plane struck the Penatgon on 9/11, let me ask you some questions.

How does a Boeing 757 fit into a hole and leave NO DAMAGE or WRECKAGE on the outside of the Pentagon?
You're one of those folks that believes there was only a 16-foot hole left by an "alleged plane" aren't you? kay... 1st it was a 16 foot wide hole.... on the 2nd floor level. You viewed a photograph where the 70 foot wide portion on the first level was obscured by fire retardant foam being sprayed all over the facade when they were trying to put out the fires.

brilliant...

2nd... the plane was traveling a couple hundred miles per hour on impact and it weighed over 100 tons. The pentagon walls are about 18 inched thick tops, masonry construction. What did you think would happen? The plane would squash itself into a pancake on the lawn... didn't think so... the majority of it's mass wound up scattered inside the building.


Why is a CNN News Reporter saying that there is NO EVIDENCE of a plane crashing into the Pentagon?
Initial reports in the midst of chaos are often lacking in facts because not all details are available immediately after a chaotic event.

If a Boeing was flying at 530mph 2 feet above ground, then why were there NO REPORTS of jet blast or wake turbulence?
You mean why the air current from the engines wasn't flipping cars on the highway? Mythbusters already did that experiment on something unrelated and it doesn't work the way you think it does... You're thinking hollywood physics.

A Boeing 757 is 60 Tons and IF a Boeing 757 struck the Pentagon, would it not leave 60 Tons of scrap, NOT a few pieces, like you are implying with the link you provided?
You somehow think that all 60 tons of that scrap metal would have been all outside of the building. Do yourself a favor, try looking at all of the photo documentation, not just the cherrypicks that loose change provided you...

The Pentagon was struck on 9/11 by a remote-controlled DU-weaponized Global Hawk. Global Hawks are extremly light weight about 4 Tons and more than 50% is carbon fiber and resin. That would explain why there was less than 2 Tons of scrap!

When you make assumptions without accounting for all the evidence that points elsewhere... a nice way of describing that argument is calling it a load of "poo". I notice there's a sheathing load of irony in you calling your peers BS'ers when in reality it is you who made the "poo".

I think if you're trying to look for a conspiracy there are ways to prove one without resorting to this loose change silliness... it's this same silliness thats made the early symbol of the truth movement... their own little forum pretty much a ghost town these days...
 
Sep 2013
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Castro Valley CA
Wow, just wow!

Just a bit of food for thought
bon appetit

WHY did the worlds greatest military power FAIL to defend even its own HQ?

any taxpayer has the right to ask this question,
indeed on 9/12 Donald Rumsfeld still had a JOB,
whats up with that?
 
Sep 2013
44
1
Castro Valley CA
Do you know what a surprise attack is?

More than half an hour
between the second hit to the WTC towers
and the hit to the PENTAGON, in that time,
just exactly what ( if anything ) was done
to protect this nations capital from attack?
 
Jul 2009
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Port St. Lucie
More than half an hour
between the second hit to the WTC towers
and the hit to the PENTAGON, in that time,
just exactly what ( if anything ) was done
to protect this nations capital from attack?

Jets were scrambled. Not much you can do with millions of civilians in the line of fire though. Also, the Pentagon isn't in D.C.
 
Feb 2013
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just past the moons of Jupiter
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Why, after all these years, haven't we seen any clear photos of the "plane" that struck the Pentagon?

Why are there NO HOLES in the Pentagon where the plane's enormous engines would have impacted? Only one engine was found at the Pentagon and it is too small to have come from a Boeing 757.

Why is there NO DAMAGE to the outer wall from the wings?

Where is any identifyable parts like the wings, the fuselage, vertical stabilizer and tail section? They didn't just vaporize.

The Pentagon was attacked on 9/11, but there was absoluty NO PROOF that a commercial airliner/ a Boeing 757 ever struck the Pentagon.

The wings are hollow fuel tanks they likely would have snapped off when hitting the reinforced structure.
 
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