How about getting some of these young strong 20-ish "Occupiers" to do it, instead of camping out on the public square insisteing that the world owes them a living? The alabama farmers need to raise their wages till someone takes the job, otherwise it's their own fault that they let the crop rot.
How about getting some of these young strong 20-ish "Occupiers" to do it, instead of camping out on the public square insisteing that the world owes them a living? The alabama farmers need to raise their wages till someone takes the job, otherwise it's their own fault that they let the crop rot.
They will likely raise it to what makes the most fiscal sense (especially if you believe strongly in rational market forces), but what makes most fiscal sense in a situation without any cheap labor is not what makes the most fiscal sense with cheap labor. With the cheap labor they would likely have more efficient crop turnouts with less rot. Marginal diminishing returns.
Um no because for one in that example all transactions are not voluntary. Also, the net productivity is not positive because someone still made the electronics and TOOK A LOSS on them when they were stolen. That is not the case with the illegal immigrants on farms. Try again.If your idea were applied generally, we would stop arresting people who stole electronics and sold them on the street, because then people would be able to buy cheap electronics.
That's a strawman. What's relevent is that the cheap price is a direct consequence of CRIMINAL acts - theft in the one case, breaking immigration laws and hiring illegals on the other.
Here we see once again your blinders in looking at the invasion as if its significant consequences can be evaluated only with a business model, the contempt for the rule of law, and social costs be damned. There are HUGE losses in looting of the health care system, the imprisonment of tens of thousands of illegals, loss of taxes for the illegals who are paid "under the table", etc. These >>LOSSES<<< don't show up on your blinkered mental radar.
Criminality has nothing to do with production. You really have a problem dissecting and comprehending issues, don't you? Believe what you want and keep squirming as more illegal immigrants come here. I will sleep peacefully knowing they are helping our country and chasing a dream that any free society would want to give them.
There have been studies on it THAT HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR SUCH COSTS and come to my conclusion- net effect of illegal immigration is positive (I don't think you understand what a proper cost-benefit analysis is since you keep thinking that they don't think about these things). Much of academia is at least is open to the possibility. But keep living in your doom-and-gloom fantasy as you live your life hating things that might actually help the country you love without doing so much as actually learning about what is happening and its full effect.
Yaaaaa - everyone here gets your econocentric blinkered view of the world. If someone is a hitman for hire, and he kills someone and gets paid, that's "production" that helps the economy, don't bring in all that legal-schmegal stuff.
You've been asked repeatedly for credible, qualified, neutral, reliable backing for your claims - that it's never produced tells us all we need to know.
Um no because the guy that died is lost value and because the harm principle should still apply if the goals are utilitarian. Also, there is no production in that example. Stop using strawman arguments.Yaaaaa - everyone here gets your econocentric blinkered view of the world. If someone is a hitman for hire, and he kills someone and gets paid, that's "production" that helps the economy, don't bring in all that legal-schmegal stuff.
I HAVE GIVEN YOU PLENTY IN THE PAST BUT YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO OPEN UP PDFS. I have also given you videos and news articles- even the one in this OP is a source. As for things like diminishing returns, that is like 1+1=2. If you don't know that, go look it up- takes a quick wiki search. And I don't care if you think I haven't provided any evidence, any intellectual who reads our discussions can see who is using logic and who is using dogma.
Ironically, you have even ADMITTED to NOT GIVING SOURCES because it is "not your job". And yet you insist on continuing to make absurd claims while still demanding evidence from those you debate with. It is a two-way street, you are not the king.
I am absolutely floored by the love of money (capitalism) I am seeing here, rather than the love of nation (nationalism). Do none of you have any pride in your country? But of course you don't for you allow the members of inferior races and countries into your own homeland, thus weakening your country. This is stupidity at its height, which is why your country continues to fail, as it becomes a commie-pinko libtarded shithole.
Yaaaaa - everyone here gets your econocentric blinkered view of the world. If someone is a hitman for hire, and he kills someone and gets paid, that's "production" that helps the economy, don't bring in all that legal-schmegal stuff.
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