America's LEGAL immigration problem
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I'm telling you what I told the other turkey - I'm not doing you're damn googling for you after this.
(This was realllllllllllll friggin hard - I googled heritage statism ranking
)http://www.heritage.org/index/pdf/2011/Index2011_ExecutiveHighlights.pdf
Several pages into the article is the rankings table.
This is a newer ranking for 2011 - america drops to 9 with the effects of the obamanistas, india is 124th.
Lol, that is why I couldn't find it. That is an index of ECONOMIC FREEDOM, not statism. And as I admitted, India had a very protectionist past although it is moving away from it. That does not say anything about political freedoms, political ideologies, or what the people believe in though and it does not tell the whole story on what the government is all about either.
The Von Mises Institute says there is a strong correlation between economic and political freedom, and much of statism is economics - eg the full expression of obamanista statism has been in the economic sphere. If a country has a very bad score in economics statism, it's statist, no matter whatever else it might have gotten right.
Here's an analogy for what you're trying to push: I say a woman is ugly, and you say AHA! Just her face is ugly, she's got beautiful legs and ears!!
Corruption rankings: Us 20, India tied for 72. Now, tell me that doesn't count too.
http://www.infoplease.com/world/sta...ncy-international-corruption-perceptions.html
http://www.infoplease.com/world/sta...ncy-international-corruption-perceptions.html
Not true. Because it is a correlation and not always true. There is an argument that the United States is the most politically free country in the world based even solely on the point of speech freedom. It is most definitely not economically the freest.
That aside though, this whole thing started because you were claiming that people in countries like India would expect entitlements and statism because of their government. You base that on this economic index I suppose since it is what you referred to. If that is true, by that logic you are also arguing that an American might go to Denmark or Canada (both ranked higher according to your source) and express our freedom-hating views to bring down their own freedom. That makes no sense, especially considering the fact that those countries are more socialized than the US too. The reason that doesn't make sense is because the correlation does not always hold and more importantly, you jumped to conclusions in connecting these varying datapoints (economic freedom index, statism, and a population's view towards statism and entitlements).
That aside though, this whole thing started because you were claiming that people in countries like India would expect entitlements and statism because of their government. You base that on this economic index I suppose since it is what you referred to. If that is true, by that logic you are also arguing that an American might go to Denmark or Canada (both ranked higher according to your source) and express our freedom-hating views to bring down their own freedom. That makes no sense, especially considering the fact that those countries are more socialized than the US too. The reason that doesn't make sense is because the correlation does not always hold and more importantly, you jumped to conclusions in connecting these varying datapoints (economic freedom index, statism, and a population's view towards statism and entitlements).
It's NEITHER the economically NOR speech freeest - both due to the mischief of leftwingers:
Leftwingers have created a number of impediments to free speech:
- the former FCC "fairness rule"
- Their near monopoly of the mass media
- hate crimes laws
- campus speech codes and monolithic liberal student newspapers
- RICO act used against abortion mill protestors
- the monolithic liberalism of PBS
Skipping the free speech and corruption indices? Uh, er, hokayyyyyyy.
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