Cannabis

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Jan 2009
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I think it must remain illegal because cannabis makes you addicted and more addicted, you will do anything to get canabis, just like other drugs, the level of addiction is higher than cigarettes. Canabis makes us fly when we smoke it, while cigarettes not.
Actually, nicotine (which is the addictive agent in cigarettes) is a lot more addictive than THC (what is in marijuana.) The thing about cannabis altering one's state of mind and making you "high" is a different story.
 
Jan 2009
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I don't think that dodot has actually known a stoner. I know a lot of people who have experimented or regularly smoked weed. They were not addicted any more than someone is addicted to a favorite food, TV show, or game. They just liked to do it and did it when they could.

It actually isn't very addictive, especially when one looks at how hard it is for most people to stop smoking or drinking.
 
Mar 2009
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I think that it should generally stay illegal but still be allowed for people who have medical conditions because it can greatly help people's pain and health. One of the conditions that it helps is cancer which it has been proven to help.
Agreed, but I think that in addition to medical practitioners being able to prescribe it, naturopaths should also be able to prescribe it. I think there are a number of "Class B" drugs that qualified naturopaths should be able to prescribe to their patients too.

I think what is important too is that different people will react to cannabis in different ways. Some react with hallucinations so it would be safer to take cannabis under medical or alternative medical supervision. It would also be important for the person using cannabis to receive expert counsel, especially when the patient is taking cannabis with other drugs, so the someone who prescribes cannabis needs to have expert knowledge about cannabis.
 
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Mar 2009
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Lol.
Sorry, at first, I swear I was reading "Cannibals". So half way through reading this I was like "What? England wants to legalize Cannibalism?" But as I read on it didn't seem to make sense. Pain-killers and such came up and I was like "Hold up..." I re-read the title and saw Cannabis. Cannabis not Cannibals. Then is started making sense. (that's how stupid I am.)
As far as Cannabis is concerned I agree with Akuma. Not that fighting to gain evil Ki, but on using the medicine only for Medical use. And on cannibalism, hey, as long as you didn't commit murder and eat the guy after he died then... uh, pass the salt?
 
Mar 2009
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I think it must remain illegal because cannabis makes you addicted and more addicted, you will do anything to get canabis, just like other drugs, the level of addiction is higher than cigarettes. Canabis makes us fly when we smoke it, while cigarettes not.

I have to disagree that the level of addiction is higher than cigarettes.

You can become addicted but it's only a psychological addiction, not a physical addiction. Having said that, you can become both physically and psychologically addicted to cigarettes and alcohol which have pretty much the same ill side effects.

Perhaps cannabis gets you high, but what about alcohol? I'd say the effects of alcohol are much more inhibitory than cannabis.

So smoking and alcohol together you get pretty much the same, or worse ill effects and inhibition than with cannabis. Yet both of those drugs are legal.

Doesn't make much sense.
 
Mar 2009
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I have one reason not to make it legal. The people I know (two are non drinking neighbors) that smoke pot just can't concentrate. I see them do very dangerous things. One had a breaker box on fire. Threw a pot of water on it and laughed at the steam.:confused: But he always has that clip in his pocket.:D
 
Mar 2009
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If the government Legalised Weed it would be for their benefit so they would have to control the processing and distribution. It would be taxed heavily and it would also promote smoking. So by the time you get to buy it It will still be cheaper to go to billy down the road and where he gets it from leaves a long trail of guns, violence , slavery and abuse.

Any form of dependable stimulant should only be legalised for medication purposes. Weed whilst does not have the same effects or side effects as a lot of other Narcotics, does have its own problems. Whilst the occasional user does not see them People who get to dependant on it subconsciously evolve into totally living around it.
 
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Weed whilst does not have the same effects or side effects as a lot of other Narcotics, does have its own problems. Whilst the occasional user does not see them People who get to dependant on it subconsciously evolve into totally living around it.

This could be said for alcohol as well. If you've ever known an alcoholic then you will know that they pretty much live in a constant drunken state that leads to many health problems and terrible effects - effects that the occasional user does not see. You could even say that unlike weed, some alcoholics often turn violent and injure those around them.
 
Mar 2009
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This could be said for alcohol as well. If you've ever known an alcoholic then you will know that they pretty much live in a constant drunken state that leads to many health problems and terrible effects - effects that the occasional user does not see. You could even say that unlike weed, some alcoholics often turn violent and injure those around them.
They definitely injure their families psychologically with major consequences for society too, especially as it visits children of alcoholics, and their children, in a neverending spiral of consequences.
 
Mar 2009
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In the US, both federal and state laws apply, though I just read that it has been decriminalized everywhere for medical purposes. That was just a couple of days ago.

I'm not sure that decriminalizing any drug would make it appear 'safe'. In the US, smoking tobacco is legal, but very few people smoke, because it is regarded as both unsafe and as a rather disgusting and smelly habit.

It would certainly cut a lot of crime, and damage some of the drug lords that are so violent.
 
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This could be said for alcohol as well. If you've ever known an alcoholic then you will know that they pretty much live in a constant drunken state that leads to many health problems and terrible effects - effects that the occasional user does not see. You could even say that unlike weed, some alcoholics often turn violent and injure those around them.
and unlike alcohol Weed installs a state of paranoia among heavy users, A paranoia that also can lead to violence and denial that subsequently ALIENATES the dependant and the vicious circle continues.
 
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The paranoia is not very severe. I've heard that it's maybe 5% and usually involves them curling up on the floor for a few minutes until the monsters go away.

Compare that to the number of alcoholics who have lower inhibitions that lead them to violence.

Also, most people just don't smoke weed again if they are getting the paranoia. I don't believe the brain develops a physical addiction to THC, so one can just quit. The addiction is no worse than any other "addiction" (like chocolate or video games).
 
Mar 2009
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But weed impairs driving less than alcohol. The tests I'm referring to were probably conducted twenty years ago. I've read that the stuff available now is much stronger.
 
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But weed impairs driving less than alcohol. The tests I'm referring to were probably conducted twenty years ago. I've read that the stuff available now is much stronger.
I can tell you this from personal experience, a combination of "weed" and booze will get you killed. While on a drinking weekend a friend talked me into trying some of his "pot".:eek: Well the pot gave me "dry mouth". As a drinker when my mouth got dry I had another drink. Three people in my 1969 Roadrunner and I drove through a one lane bridge at 110mph. The car was geared for 140 so it could have been worse. I felt like I could step out of the car and walk faster than that car was moving. The two guys with me were screaming "slow down". I was telling them the speedometer must be broken.

The world was in slow mo. and I was numb. Nothing like that ever happened to me again. But I stay away from the weed. and that was 1971.
 
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I can tell you this from personal experience, a combination of "weed" and booze will get you killed. While on a drinking weekend a friend talked me into trying some of his "pot".:eek: Well the pot gave me "dry mouth". As a drinker when my mouth got dry I had another drink. Three people in my 1969 Roadrunner and I drove through a one lane bridge at 110mph. The car was geared for 140 so it could have been worse. I felt like I could step out of the car and walk faster than that car was moving. The two guys with me were screaming "slow down". I was telling them the speedometer must be broken.

The world was in slow mo. and I was numb. Nothing like that ever happened to me again. But I stay away from the weed. and that was 1971.

Man, that's an awesome story! Well, awesome in a crazy, "glad you're still alive but now you've got a sweet story" sort of way.

I can't say I've ever smoked and drank at the same time. If anything finish drinking and then smoke and burn out for the night.
 
Mar 2009
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I can tell you this from personal experience, a combination of "weed" and booze will get you killed. While on a drinking weekend a friend talked me into trying some of his "pot".:eek: Well the pot gave me "dry mouth". As a drinker when my mouth got dry I had another drink. Three people in my 1969 Roadrunner and I drove through a one lane bridge at 110mph. The car was geared for 140 so it could have been worse. I felt like I could step out of the car and walk faster than that car was moving. The two guys with me were screaming "slow down". I was telling them the speedometer must be broken.

The world was in slow mo. and I was numb. Nothing like that ever happened to me again. But I stay away from the weed. and that was 1971.
Thanks for the story. I was witness once of a friend reacting very badly to weed. She was really very ill. She was not taking alcohol though (that I know off anyway). Anyway, seeing her reacting the way she did, totally put me off. Not something to play around with I thought.
 
Mar 2009
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Either way, whether legel or illegal, people will still continue to do it.

It shouldn't matter what class it gets placed at but if you have a medical prescription then should be allowed it. I can't see it being on the NHS though, because people who aren't allowed it wouldn't be happy having to pay for something that's been illegalised so why should they pay for it.

I don't use. I very rarely use pain killers and at the moment the only drug I'm considering taking is madinil which is a stimulant and keeps you awake - this is necessary for working online and working for longer in the hope of bringing in more money.
 
Mar 2009
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Either way, whether legel or illegal, people will still continue to do it.

It shouldn't matter what class it gets placed at but if you have a medical prescription then should be allowed it. I can't see it being on the NHS though, because people who aren't allowed it wouldn't be happy having to pay for something that's been illegalised so why should they pay for it.

I don't use. I very rarely use pain killers and at the moment the only drug I'm considering taking is madinil which is a stimulant and keeps you awake - this is necessary for working online and working for longer in the hope of bringing in more money.

Be careful with the stimulants. Back in the 70s many truckers were taking "black beauties" to stay awake. I was at a little truck stop just out of Forest Park Georgia. A young man asked me if I wanted to buy some pills. Seems he was a medical student at the university. He was "cooking them up" in the university lab. As he told me everything he needed was there. He "gave" me three. If I liked them I would buy some on the way back from Tampa Florida. Just short of the Florida state line I went blind. Me and my Peterbuilt ended up out in the median strip. It passed in a few minutes, but once again I put my stupid life and others in danger. Needless to say I did not stop to pick up anymore pills. I drove 4 more years without pills.:)
 
Mar 2009
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Alcohol or weed. Not alcohol and weed. What a frightening story.

Mixing things tend to be really bad. My drug of choice is alcohol, and I learned very early to drink only one thing, and stick with it all evening. If nothing else, it reduces the chance of a hangover. So if I start the evening with scotch, it's scotch for the night. If I start with white wine, that's it for the night. Well, that's what I did back when I drank.

Now that I'm old, it takes very little to affect me, and I tend to just go to sleep, so it isn't much fun either. I think I used up my lifetime allotment of alcohol when I was 43 or so.
 
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