Disappointed?

Aug 2010
103
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While I didn't vote for Obama I hoped, as every American should, that he would succeed.
So far he has disappointed me.
Here's just a few of the reasons.
1) Divides the parties further instead of bringing them together for the greater good of the nation.
2) Appointed the absolute worst AG in American history.
3) Let the New Black Panthers off the hook.
4) Appointed an extreme, radical, inexperienced individual to the Supreme Court.
5) His Stimulus plan has been a colossal failure.
6) Pulling out of Iraq too soon.
7) Apology-Fest.
8) Interfering with the Arizona Immigration laws.
9) Weak on illegal immigration.
10) Obama Care
11) Cash or Clunkers was a failure.
12) Auto bailouts.
I still think Obama can turn this ship around and eave a positive legacy but it's appearing more and more each day this will not happen.
 
Do you realize that we have less than a year on an Obama budget? The economic crash took place in 2008. Don?t you remember who was President then? A lot of people want to blame Clinton for the crash. After all, "W" only had seven years before the Crash. Now, after less then two years, you are blaming Obama because he didn?t pull of a miracle.
Let?s be clear, I?m against almost everything that Obama is doing, mainly because most of it is basically a continuation of the Bush program.
However, I can?t call him a failure until he has at least four years to walk on water. Actually, I doubt if God could fix the mess that Bush left behind in eight years. Yes, it wasn?t all Bush?s fault, but he was the President. Remember Truman?s sign, "The Buck Stops Here". I think he was the last President, except possibly for Kennedy, to practice that.
If Obama gets a Republican Congress, which looks likely, then to any fair minded person, he is off the hook. That is, if the Republican Congress is like the previous one. Obama, rightly or wrongly, has continued and incremented the Bush policy of borrow and spend to stave off a Depression. It?s going to take time to succeed, and if it is aborted before it gets a chance to run it?s course, then you can?t hold Obama responsible. Personally, I don?t think it?s going to work, but who the Hell am I? After eight years, then you can say it failed, anything less, is premature.
I?m not saying give him eight years. At this rate of spending, if it doesn?t seem to be working after four years, we can?t risk continuing it. We can?t afford another Reagan deficit at this stage.
Of course, if we elect a Republican, we may get another Reagan.
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It only takes a minute to strike a match to set a house on fire, it takes a little longer to rebuild the house.
 
Aug 2010
21
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Florida
If Obama gets a Republican Congress, which looks likely

There is o way on Gods green earth Republicans will take control. They will gain quite a few seats but there's too many to make up.
 
Aug 2010
862
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Not an Obama supporter but...

1. The Repubs are as much to bale with all that filibusterering and hateful rhetoric.

2. Agreed.

3. Agreed.

4. And racist.

5. Not really. Few effects will be immediate and most of the projects were under the radar stuff, like scientific surveys and the like.

6. A few months is too soon? Need I remind you we were bound by treaty to leave?

7. Politicking at it's finest.

8. They were unconstitutional. But I agree.

9. Agreed.

10. Too weak.

11. It was a major success, actually.

12. The auto companies are profitable as opposed to history, so I have to disagree.

1. You need to review that civics 101 post. You're claiming the rhetoric is a GOP disease and it betrays a biased and small fund of knowledghe on the topic.

5. You misunderstand the notion of a stimulus. It is supposed to have an immediate imnpact not an impact years froim now. Besides Biden has even called it a failure. Though, iirc, he claimed they didn't spend enough. Keynsian spending doth nothing but raisew the debt. Japan tried this technique for a decade without luck and now has a national debt approaching 200% of GDP.

8. Again, civic 101. They are not unconstitutional. The AZ laws mirror federal laws. Are they too unconstitutional? Please explain the basis for your claim that the AZ laws are unconstitutional.

11. Again, civics/econ 101. Much like the first time home buyer program all this did was shift a demand curve a little bit to the left. It had no real mimpact on the economy... it just changed whe, by a couple months, people made their purchases.

12. Profitable? Why is it the job of the government to take over a corporation in order to save it from itself? They should have been allowed to collapse and the pieces thatr worked sold off those that didn't permitted to die.
 
Aug 2010
6
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by the sea
Elected on a wave of populism and progressivism, he ditched the liberal image almost the moment he got into office. Wars continued, indeed escalated, in the case of Afghanistan, bail-outs for the rich continued, democracy and liberty continued to be suffocated with bureacracy and the bourgeoisie. Corporations, private tyrannies and the hyper-rich were perpetuated by Government support - both political and fiscal. Cosmetic changes were hailed as glorious victories.

So, the question is, did Obama disappoint your hopes (or for right-wingers, fears)?

Personally speaking, he didn't disappoint me - he did almost exactly as i'd expected when he was elected. It was quite funny, really. It's great watching people slide around to your way of thinking.


He didn't disappoint me for I too knew that he was not what he claimed to be. I am conservative, so I didn't vote for him nor for McCain.
 
Aug 2010
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He didn't disappoint me for I too knew that he was not what he claimed to be. I am conservative, so I didn't vote for him nor for McCain.

You made the perfect the enemy of the good (or less bad)

If all the conservatives out there who refused to vote for McCain had held thie noses and done so we may not have this disaster in the oval office.

There is in all likelihood about zero chance of ever electing some one who suits his voters on all issues.
 
Aug 2010
103
0
There is o way on Gods green earth Republicans will take control. They will gain quite a few seats but there's too many to make up.
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You could be right, that was a bit careless on my part. Noticed that a lot of Democrats seem to be running scared. Maybe they have been watching too much Fox News. If you?re right, then Obama should get four years. By then, if the economies is tanking, he?ll be gone. If the economy comes back up, then he he?ll probably hang around. That means that he?s going to be doing everything he can to look good in 2012, which probably bodes ill for the long haul. I doubt if it matters, I think we?ve passed the point of no return, and barring a revolution or a coup, we are pretty much screwed. That doesn?t mean that those would save us, but they might give us a chance. At the moment, with the squirrel cage in place, I don?t see any way out. World War III doesn?t look like too good an option at the moment.
 
Jul 2009
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Port St. Lucie
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You could be right, that was a bit careless on my part. Noticed that a lot of Democrats seem to be running scared. Maybe they have been watching too much Fox News. If you?re right, then Obama should get four years. By then, if the economies is tanking, he?ll be gone. If the economy comes back up, then he he?ll probably hang around. That means that he?s going to be doing everything he can to look good in 2012, which probably bodes ill for the long haul. I doubt if it matters, I think we?ve passed the point of no return, and barring a revolution or a coup, we are pretty much screwed. That doesn?t mean that those would save us, but they might give us a chance. At the moment, with the squirrel cage in place, I don?t see any way out. World War III doesn?t look like too good an option at the moment.

A sad day indeed when you want a coup.
 
Sep 2010
16
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Canada
Elected on a wave of populism and progressivism, he ditched the liberal image almost the moment he got into office. Wars continued, indeed escalated, in the case of Afghanistan, bail-outs for the rich continued, democracy and liberty continued to be suffocated with bureacracy and the bourgeoisie. Corporations, private tyrannies and the hyper-rich were perpetuated by Government support - both political and fiscal. Cosmetic changes were hailed as glorious victories.

So, the question is, did Obama disappoint your hopes (or for right-wingers, fears)?

Personally speaking, he didn't disappoint me - he did almost exactly as i'd expected when he was elected. It was quite funny, really. It's great watching people slide around to your way of thinking.
This pretty much describes my view. I much prefered Hillary Clinton over Obama and with Obama, I knew he was a one-term rookie with virtually no experience in Washington, and that he was ideologically rather conservative for a Democratic candidate.

And that's exactly what we got - a rookie making mistakes with a bias towards conservative policy. No surprises.

What is disappointing was to watch presumably intelligent people talking about how Obama was some kind of progressive hero. That was entirely delusional since there has never been any evidence to support that interpretation of Obama, especially prior to running for President.
 
Nov 2017
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FL Treasure Coast & South Central FL
This pretty much describes my view. I much prefered Hillary Clinton over Obama and with Obama, I knew he was a one-term rookie with virtually no experience in Washington, and that he was ideologically rather conservative for a Democratic candidate.

And that's exactly what we got - a rookie making mistakes with a bias towards conservative policy. No surprises.

What is disappointing was to watch presumably intelligent people talking about how Obama was some kind of progressive hero. That was entirely delusional since there has never been any evidence to support that interpretation of Obama, especially prior to running for President.

You Canadians are pretty smart! :D
 
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