[Disturbing images] Victims of uranium munitions used by the us forces in afghanistan

afghan · Feb 7, 2012

myp said:
A PHD does not matter- that is not what gives a source is validity, especially when it is just on some random site. You haven't even shown proof (neither has the site) that the images are in fact from Afghanistan. That aside, read proof in this context (since this is a medical issue) would be scientific papers or medical journal papers that discuss the issues, causality, etc. Do you have those?

Iraq did not have WMDs. That has been resolved. 9/11 was done by Osama Bin Laden. That too has been resolved. There is plenty of evidence to support it- suggesting it was an inside job is a fringe view backed by little evidence and the burden of proof lies moreso on you to prove it if you believe that. Either way, what we are discussing here is a matter of science since it is health related. Surely there has to be medical documentation, etc. to back your claims if they are true.

Is the point that they just don't have hospitals in his particular area? What does money for a hospital have to do with these pictures?

These sources can't be talked in american media, read the book this research paper has been published in more western journals, there are other studies which are done by the americans showing the massacre of talibans at dasht-e- laile.

IF Iraq didn't had WMDs then why it was Propagated by the americans and CIA? well now are they ready to compensate for those peoples which they had killed, forced them to migrate???????

Look you are mixing yourself, these pictures are a part of a research and a book which shows the real picture of afghanistan after 6 years of occupation (at that time now it is almost a decade)

the author want money to make a hospital or a research center to cure these uranium effected peoples. (this is not a part of our this discussion it was you which asked for what they want money)

afghan · Feb 7, 2012

Cerise said:
With respect, I think your main point of this thread is 'bashing USA' and not the deformed babies at all.

Hospitals and research are always needed, not just in Afghanistan. In an ideal world money would be spent on that instead of wars. Sadly we are nowhere near to living in an ideal world.

I don't want to bash America but their Policies; this thread is a part of that to show you what are the effects of american presence and what are they doing here....

What does your last portion means? Ideal world?
do you think in real world we should make bombs, make huge defence expenditures and leave social expenditures because it is only done in IDEAL world?????

Regards.

Cerise · Feb 7, 2012

afghan said:
I don't want to bash America but their Policies; this thread is a part of that to show you what are the effects of american presence and what are they doing here....

What does your last portion means? Ideal world?
do you think in real world we should make bombs, make huge defence expenditures and leave social expenditures because it is only done in IDEAL world?????

Regards.

In an ideal world, everyone would live peacefully with everyone else and money would be spent on things such as the hospital and research that you mentioned.
This ofcourse will never happen but its a pleasant dream.

Kingdom · Feb 7, 2012

afghan said:
Afghans never attacked America nor was involved in 9/11. even taliban were ready to hand out OSAMA to other islamic country but not to America because in our Religion it didn't has the right as like in American law it is you can not hand over an american to foreign country.

Al-Qaeda are active in Afghanistan, especially in the mountain region between Afghanistan and Pakistan, so NATO troops actually have a right to be exactly where they are today.

afghan said:
If America didn't had invade afghanistan there would not be any causalities.

Oh really? So what about all the casualties Taliban caused before Americans even thought of Afghanistan as a place to do war. Like using acid on young girls on their way to school. This is not casualties to you? It's very strange that you keep defending the Taliban.

myp · Feb 7, 2012

afghan said:
These sources can't be talked in american media, read the book this research paper has been published in more western journals, there are other studies which are done by the americans showing the massacre of talibans at dasht-e- laile.

The website has very little ethos as does that book. Where are the actual scientific articles? The ones in peer-reviewed journals? As someone studying economics, you should know the importance of peer-review in these matters.

afghan said:
IF Iraq didn't had WMDs then why it was Propagated by the americans and CIA? well now are they ready to compensate for those peoples which they had killed, forced them to migrate???????

They believed Hussein was a threat to the US and that is why Iraq was invaded. They believe they are doing right in Iraq through reconstruction.

afghan said:
Look you are mixing yourself, these pictures are a part of a research and a book which shows the real picture of afghanistan after 6 years of occupation (at that time now it is almost a decade)

Why don't you provide some actual proof instead of just repeating that ad nauseum?

afghan said:
the author want money to make a hospital or a research center to cure these uranium effected peoples. (this is not a part of our this discussion it was you which asked for what they want money)

You can't really "cure" a lot of these deformities. Some might be helped through surgical treatment. Not sure how a research center would help...

afghan · Feb 10, 2012

Kingdom said:
Al-Qaeda are active in Afghanistan, especially in the mountain region between Afghanistan and Pakistan, so NATO troops actually have a right to be exactly where they are today.

Oh really? So what about all the casualties Taliban caused before Americans even thought of Afghanistan as a place to do war. Like using acid on young girls on their way to school. This is not casualties to you? It's very strange that you keep defending the Taliban.

Who are the Al-Qaeda? weren't they are those that the CIA actually made them!!!

Yep! Taliban might have thrown acid on young girls but that doesn't mean that Americans should invade afghanistan.....

See your own history how you have treated sitting Bull and the Company... What were going on the Black Peoples, they can't sit in front of the Bus, they can't take admission in your schools and etc etc.... would this mean that others should attack you in order to make you more civilize and show you to how treat others equally????

Yeah! I know and I also criticize Talibans in this regards..... But Now if they came to Power they can't continue their old agenda, they will and must change their agenda regarding women, Freedom, Education and elections if they really want to be there in Afghani Politics.......

afghan · Feb 10, 2012

myp said:
The website has very little ethos as does that book. Where are the actual scientific articles? The ones in peer-reviewed journals? As someone studying economics, you should know the importance of peer-review in these matters.

They believed Hussein was a threat to the US and that is why Iraq was invaded. They believe they are doing right in Iraq through reconstruction.

Why don't you provide some actual proof instead of just repeating that ad nauseum?

You can't really "cure" a lot of these deformities. Some might be helped through surgical treatment. Not sure how a research center would help...

If you really believe the Scientific Articles and research papers why you won''t take it in the regards of 9/11... there are more scientists whose videos are full of youtube and they have the opinion with the help of Scientific Reasons that 9/11 was an inside Job!!!!!

If some one other than America feel that America is not only threat to the world peace but to them also would this gave them the right to attack America? if yes then why you blame Al-Qaeda? and others... IF NO then this is hypocrisy! you gave yourself the right but not right to others......

America in last 100 years has attacked more than 70 countries, Killed world leaders, help in coup e data to change the regimes and govts... and etc read American Books about the history of CIA and American intellgience agencies...
this will show you then that CIA is a greatest threat so is this will mean that others has the right to attack America???????

These pictures are the proof.... Guantanamo Bay and its videos are the proofs... American Bombardment and interview of american soldiers are the Proofs.....

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Please do tell me how i can multi quote my answer....

Please gave me an answer :help:

Kingdom · Feb 10, 2012

afghan said:
Who are the Al-Qaeda? weren't they are those that the CIA actually made them!!!

Source?

afghan said:
Yep! Taliban might have thrown acid on young girls but that doesn't mean that Americans should invade afghanistan.....

9/11 is.

afghan said:
See your own history how you have treated sitting Bull and the Company... What were going on the Black Peoples, they can't sit in front of the Bus, they can't take admission in your schools and etc etc.... would this mean that others should attack you in order to make you more civilize and show you to how treat others equally????

Regarding the UK, they've developed and one of the most fantastic things about living in this country is that so many different cultures and people come together. People here, regardless of skin colour, religion or culture, are treated as British.

afghan said:
Yeah! I know and I also criticize Talibans in this regards..... But Now if they came to Power they can't continue their old agenda, they will and must change their agenda regarding women, Freedom, Education and elections if they really want to be there in Afghani Politics.......

The fact that you believe that scares me. If anyone from the Taliban have approached with the mantra you just mentioned, it's manipulative rubbish from their side. I don't believe for one second that they'll give up their ideals just because there's been changes in Afghan laws.

afghan · Feb 10, 2012

Kingdom said:
Source?

9/11 is.

Regarding the UK, they've developed and one of the most fantastic things about living in this country is that so many different cultures and people come together. People here, regardless of skin colour, religion or culture, are treated as British.

The fact that you believe that scares me. If anyone from the Taliban have approached with the mantra you just mentioned, it's manipulative rubbish from their side. I don't believe for one second that they'll give up their ideals just because there's been changes in Afghan laws.

Source? See how they trained, Gave them finance and military equipments to Al-Qaeda!

That was not regarding Uk, that was regarding USA,,, where the Black Peoples and red indians were living miserable life... and it wouldn't then mean that some one should attack them...

9/11? it was not done by Taliban and not by afghans... it was an inside Job... See the scientific Proofs in youtube, documentries by American Scientists...

Its only your perception... Their acts have changed very much... and I hope that it will change more....

Kingdom · Feb 10, 2012

afghan said:
Source? See how they trained, Gave them finance and military equipments to Al-Qaeda!

I don't see that.

afghan said:
That was not regarding Uk, that was regarding USA,,, where the Black Peoples and red indians were living miserable life... and it wouldn't then mean that some one should attack them...

Then why did you quote me with this, I quote you: See your own history how you have treated sitting Bull and the Company?

afghan said:
9/11? it was not done by Taliban and not by afghans... it was an inside Job... See the scientific Proofs in youtube, documentries by American Scientists...

It's still a theory. It's not official facts. The official belief is that Al-Qaeda is still behind the attacks on 9/11, and the names of the hijackers of the air crafts that day have been released. Osama bin Laden even asked his son months before 11th of September 01 if he wanted to participate in an attack later the same year.

afghan said:
Its only your perception... Their acts have changed very much... and I hope that it will change more....

I don't see that. Is that why they are behind the majority of casualties in the war in Afghanistan?

myp · Feb 10, 2012

afghan said:
If you really believe the Scientific Articles and research papers why you won''t take it in the regards of 9/11... there are more scientists whose videos are full of youtube and they have the opinion with the help of Scientific Reasons that 9/11 was an inside Job!!!!!

It doesn't matter how many scientists "say" it is true. That is NOT how science works. You need hard proof. Where is it?

afghan said:
If some one other than America feel that America is not only threat to the world peace but to them also would this gave them the right to attack America? if yes then why you blame Al-Qaeda? and others... IF NO then this is hypocrisy! you gave yourself the right but not right to others......

I can't decide who has the right to do what

Anyway, this point doesn't matter. Even if Al Qaeda was justified, by that thinking the US was also justified to do what they did. And yet, you say what America did was wrong, I say what Al Qaeda did was wrong. What's your point?

afghan said:
America in last 100 years has attacked more than 70 countries, Killed world leaders, help in coup e data to change the regimes and govts... and etc read American Books about the history of CIA and American intellgience agencies...
this will show you then that CIA is a greatest threat so is this will mean that others has the right to attack America???????

Again same point as above. And on a side note, I do not believe in interventionism and I did not support the Iraq way, but you are holding a complete double standard here.

afghan said:
These pictures are the proof.... Guantanamo Bay and its videos are the proofs... American Bombardment and interview of american soldiers are the Proofs.....

No it's not. Can you give me the source that shows this is from Afghanistan and not elsewhere? Can you show me the scientific study that shows that these cancers and mutations were the result of American military action?

afghan said:
Please do tell me how i can multi quote my answer....
Please gave me an answer :help:

If you want to quote multiple posts hit the little " button next to quote on all the posts you want to respond to then hit quote. If you want to break up one post into bits you'll have to copy paste the [ QUOTE=username;number ] bit before each segment and add [ /quote ] after each one (without the spaces of course).

Polydectes · Sep 20, 2013

The photos, some are known birth defects although not common, it occurs naturally. Some are hoaxes.

[Disturbing images] Victims of uranium munitions used by the us forces in afghanistan

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