Ralph47 Nov 2017 3,387 88 FL Treasure Coast & South Central FL Feb 2, 2018 #21 arcturus88 said: yeah the experts and historians are all aware of those quotes. yet they find that he was likely non-religious (like you ). Click to expand... But their conclusion is speculative. :smug: To get back on topic: YES or NO?!
arcturus88 said: yeah the experts and historians are all aware of those quotes. yet they find that he was likely non-religious (like you ). Click to expand... But their conclusion is speculative. :smug: To get back on topic: YES or NO?!
arcturus88 Oct 2012 2,384 437 NC Feb 2, 2018 #22 Ralph47 said: But their conclusion is speculative. :smug: To get back on topic: YES or NO?! Click to expand... I guess context counts. if a politician espouses religion in a speech , vs. admitting actual contempt for it behind closed doors to a friend, one has to consider the motive of propaganda, votes, support vs. truth. Reactions: 1 users
Ralph47 said: But their conclusion is speculative. :smug: To get back on topic: YES or NO?! Click to expand... I guess context counts. if a politician espouses religion in a speech , vs. admitting actual contempt for it behind closed doors to a friend, one has to consider the motive of propaganda, votes, support vs. truth.
arcturus88 Oct 2012 2,384 437 NC Feb 2, 2018 #23 Ralph47 said: Hypothetically speaking, does God ever make mistakes? :unsure: If you say not, how do you reconcile the existence of these examples? (and these are only the worse 13; many others! ) Click to expand... Another better title/question for the thread would be... Does God have enemies. If you think not then how do you reconcile the existence of these examples? Click to expand... I would say yes, God does have enemies!
Ralph47 said: Hypothetically speaking, does God ever make mistakes? :unsure: If you say not, how do you reconcile the existence of these examples? (and these are only the worse 13; many others! ) Click to expand... Another better title/question for the thread would be... Does God have enemies. If you think not then how do you reconcile the existence of these examples? Click to expand... I would say yes, God does have enemies!
Ralph47 Nov 2017 3,387 88 FL Treasure Coast & South Central FL Feb 2, 2018 #24 arcturus88 said: Another better title/question for the thread would be... I would say yes, God does have enemies! Click to expand... That most indubitably is fodder for ANOTHER thread!
arcturus88 said: Another better title/question for the thread would be... I would say yes, God does have enemies! Click to expand... That most indubitably is fodder for ANOTHER thread!
N numan Nov 2016 1,377 284 Victoria, BC Feb 2, 2018 #25 ' Since God doesn't exist, how could He make any mistakes? . Reactions: 1 users
Ralph47 Nov 2017 3,387 88 FL Treasure Coast & South Central FL Feb 2, 2018 #26 arcturus88 said: yeah the experts and historians are all aware of those quotes. yet they find that he was likely non-religious (like you ). Click to expand... I hereby submit that those particular ones are clearlyBIASED to save their cause. :smug:
arcturus88 said: yeah the experts and historians are all aware of those quotes. yet they find that he was likely non-religious (like you ). Click to expand... I hereby submit that those particular ones are clearlyBIASED to save their cause. :smug:
Ralph47 Nov 2017 3,387 88 FL Treasure Coast & South Central FL Feb 7, 2018 #27 I think God's biggest mistake was running a dictatorship, rather than democracy.