You've amplified your hypos considerably at this point.
If you meant suicide you should have said suicide.
Suicide is morally wrong..
If I were discussing suicide alone I'd have said so. It is regarded as admirable that soldiers should die for their local bossman or that 'martyrs' should die for some principle, 'cowardly' that someone commits suicide to avoid pain, whatever. The question of self-harm is immensely complex, which was my point.
Your "facts"
Your point: Agreed perhaps. To hurt another may be morally wrong but requires context lacking in your comments..
What facts do you disagree with? Racist always kill children to frighten their parents, because they regard those they imagine to be 'other' as non-human, as do the nazis occupying Palestine. Capitalism is large-scale organised theft of everything not very securely nailed down, including children's food, let alone their toys, as everyone knows except capitalists. Once anyone starts assuming his right to end another person's life he is pretending to be your God, surely, which is either madness or blasphemy?
I'm a Texan and an American. The problem with your preference is that you are relying on supposition. I don't think it is an unreasonable suposition but when we have records that stand to illustrate a different path I think it more reasonabled to rely on that evidence rather than a reasonable notion lacking that doesn't have evidence.
History is the propaganda of the victors, records the propaganda of the literate. What do we really know of the Carthaginians or the Cathari but what their enemies said? Can we really base any notion of human pre-history on such stuff? We have, I think, to look always at who did the recording and ask what their interests and assumptions were.
Don't suggest my or my co-religionists faith is based on mammon or that it is false for other personal gain. Undoubtedly there are those for whom it is true. But it is far from common 'round these parts. It would not be unheard of for such allegations to be responded to with a fist.
Which indicates, of course, that Christianity is extremely rare in countries where 'religion' flourishes for economic and social motives. Punch the other cheek, eh?
In the UK where churches are museums and mosques are alive I'd accept that the issue may be laid more bare but it is outside my experience to empathize with.
Oh dear - teabag propaganda! All religion is dropping away here, but churches are not museums, there are a very few mosques, and people of Muslim background who were born here and not married to people from elsewhere are quickly becoming as irreligious as everyone else, because it is no longer necessary to pretend to believe nonsense. Like the Muslims, most people would of course express great respect for Jesus of Nazareth, and about 70% would describe themselves as 'Christian', but the numbers attending steeplehouses is much, much smaller.
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