House Speaker Boehner Hold the line

Dec 2012
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do not Give in to Obama Bullying, let him blink or let the cuts take affect, if they do or if they dont. Obama has to come to you for Money first part of the Year,give him vary little till he makes some concessions make him sweat.you have the upper hand in this use it to your advantage do not cave
 
Jul 2009
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You do realize that most people are blaming the Repubs for this showdown, yes? If we go over, the Repubs will get the blame and Obama will go down in history as a deficit buster like Clinton.
 
Dec 2012
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Well, the Republicans aren't really putting forward real proposals. Sure, they want to extend the Bush tax cuts - any tax cut in this time is greatly needed - but they aren't serious about real spending cuts. I mean, the whole fiscal cliff ordeal is phony because the spending cuts deal with cuts to future increases.

If the GOP wanted to get serious, they would tell the president to cut spending, reform entitlement programs, cut taxes, tell each and every department to find at least 10 percent in efficiencies and end the wars overseas. Now that's a plan!

In order to avoid the fiscal cliff, Washington is throwing the U.S. dollar over the cliff, which is the real crisis. Also, when it comes to the deficit, it will be less than $1 trillion in the next two years, but go past the $1 trillion mark in 2015/2016.
 
Dec 2012
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I don't see much of a way out for the Republicans right now. No matter what happens, they're going to look like the bad guys. They deserve it, in a way, as Andrew says, they haven't really tried very hard to fight for the important changes that could avert this disaster. It's kind of sad, but I've been bummed since the election, so this isn't really bothering me that much. Times have been tough and their going to stay tough until we get some people in D.C. that have real courage. I have to say, Boehner and his teary-eyed lack of leadership really needs to go.
 
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Dec 2012
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Obama seems to be willing to compromise though, I don't like the guy because my own political beliefs aren't really aligned with either the Democrats or the Republicans, who I actually see little difference between, but I have to say the Republicans seem very obstinate here on their tax policy. It seems rather childish to push the US over a fiscal cliff, and possibly into another recession because of decades old promises not to raise taxes on even the highest earners. If the Republicans don't want to look like the bad guys here they need to agree to go to the table with a plan that isn't largely partisan, then if it gets rejected by the Democrats they would at least have some leverage in being able to say the Democrats are being obstructionist. As it is now, they're the only ones who look like they're obstructing anything.
 
Dec 2012
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Obama seems to be willing to compromise though, I don't like the guy . . .

Really? He says he is for a balanced approach in news conferences but I haven't heard about any actual compromises from Obama.

Can you tell me what compromises he has proposed?
 
Dec 2012
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You do realize that most people are blaming the Repubs for this showdown, yes? If we go over, the Repubs will get the blame and Obama will go down in history as a deficit buster like Clinton.

But of course Republicans would "get the blame." Even new forum members though know better, and like you understand and realize it's the lack of anything even remotely related to leadership emminating from this President.
 
Dec 2012
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Obama seems to be willing to compromise though, I don't like the guy because my own political beliefs aren't really aligned with either the Democrats or the Republicans, who I actually see little difference between, but I have to say the Republicans seem very obstinate here on their tax policy. It seems rather childish to push the US over a fiscal cliff, and possibly into another recession because of decades old promises not to raise taxes on even the highest earners. If the Republicans don't want to look like the bad guys here they need to agree to go to the table with a plan that isn't largely partisan, then if it gets rejected by the Democrats they would at least have some leverage in being able to say the Democrats are being obstructionist. As it is now, they're the only ones who look like they're obstructing anything.

They've gone to the table with a focus on expenses...not revenues. Any individual, business, or family reviewing their own budget would come to the same obvious conclusions if given the same problem. Your issue isn't revenue. Enough money pours into Washington DC, the addiction our government currently suffers from is spending.

You get that. Right?
 
Jul 2009
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They've gone to the table with a focus on expenses...not revenues. Any individual, business, or family reviewing their own budget would come to the same obvious conclusions if given the same problem. Your issue isn't revenue. Enough money pours into Washington DC, the addiction our government currently suffers from is spending.

You get that. Right?

Most of that spending is on stuff Republicans like, Medicare, SS and Defense. Offer to cut the military budget by 50% and people might take your balanced budget rhetoric seriously.
 
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