INFRASTRUCTURE - Part 2 - California Catastrophe

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The worst infrastructure disaster in America is looming in the delta of the Sacramento and San Joaquin Rivers, about 70 miles northeast of San Francisco. In this area, rich farmlands are protected by hundreds of miles of simple dirt levees. If/whenever an earthquake were to wipe the levees out , the agricultural lands they protect will flood, triggering a chain of events that would pull salt water from the Bay area into the delta, and contaminate the drinking water supply for half the population of California. And the ramification of that ? According to University of California Geologist, Jeffery Mount, it is shutting off the water supply for 25 million people for 2-3 years.

And the culprit ? Same old one > INFRASTRUCTURE. The levees around the delta farmlands were built by farmers 150 years ago. They built the levees on poor foundations, mostly sand and lightweight peat, which deforms easily under pressure. The foundations are so porous and leak so much that most of the delta islands would fill up with water in 3 months, if they weren't continually pumped out. Making this worse, over time, the islands have sunk, and are below the water line by about 25 feet. So the levees are holding back water ALL the time, and have to be very strong for that daunting task - but they're not.

The levees are :
1. on bad foundations
2. poorly constructed
3. working 365 days/year
Thus, it will be no surprise when they fail. Not if, but when.

The delta streams provide 1/2 the drinking water of California, from San Francisco to Los Angeles. They flow into a massive reservoir 89 miles southeast of San Francisco called the Clifton Forebay. According to Doug Thompson of the California Dept.of Water Resources, if it wasn't for this system, California would be "dry down south".

The water is pumped into a 440 mile long series of aqueducts delivering to southern California, its drinking water. This whole fragile system would be pretty secure if it wasn't for one thing > Earthquakes. Something that happens a lot in California, Trust me, they happen a lot. I lived there for 12 years, and I've been through my share of them. In fact they are actually occuring all the time, except that almost all of them are too small to be significantly measurable, or cause damage.

A quake that is large and near the delta though, would knock out the delta levees and pull salt water from San Francisco Bay to the Clifton Forebay (California's water supply). Here's the likely scenario. A 6.7 quake with an epicenter close to the delta occurs. The levee foundations turn to mush creating sinkholes, collapsing the levees. The sunken island farmlands are turned into salty seas, after a few days. The islands flooding is so powerful, it pulls 300 Billion gallons of salt water inland, all the way to Clifton Forebay, which then has to close its gates, to prevent contamination of the reservoir.

California would have to ration the water in the Forebay, but it would run out in about 6 months, and it would take 2-3 years for the delta to return to normal (assuming perfect conditions that whole time, ie. no earthquakes). Bay area experts say there's a 66% chance that a 6.7 earthquake or a large flood will take down the levees some time over the next 30 years. The 1989 (world series) quake (6.9) just missed. It was centered in Boulder Creek , CA, about 120 miles southwest of the delta.

COST to fix ? Authorities estimate it will take $25-40 Million per square mile to quake-proof the delta levees. Money that California does not have. It would have to come from the federal government. So what is California doing about this catastrophe waiting to happen ? They have been shoring up the levees with sloping and adding rocks, but those treatments are like giving aspirins to a cancer victim. Bottom line is California has no plan for dealing with this catastrophic threat.

Source : The HISTORY CHANNEL.
 
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Okay...we have a dam that might fail...hell in KY we have about 30...several holding back a toxic sludge. We (as a species) also have a few other issues to deal with that might be even more detrimental.

While I can appeciate the article, as well as the sentiment...I no longer live in California. I live on Earth.
 
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Okay...we have a dam that might fail...hell in KY we have about 30...several holding back a toxic sludge. We (as a species) also have a few other issues to deal with that might be even more detrimental.

While I can appeciate the article, as well as the sentiment...I no longer live in California. I live on Earth.

I moved out of California in 1989. If more people would move out gradually this coming year, the sudden mass exodus wouldn't be so traumatic when the big one hits the levees. As for the people moving in there >> :rolleyes:
 
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Having lived in CA. for most of my life..I can easily say the levees will not even be considered when a big one hits,
 
Dec 2012
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Having lived in CA. for most of my life..I can easily say the levees will not even be considered when a big one hits,

I don't get you. How can they not be considered, when their failure will cause 25 million people to leave the state, and shut off water to the south half of the state for years ?
 
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Having lived in CA. for most of my life..I can easily say the levees will not even be considered when a big one hits,

I don't get you. How can they not be considered, when their failure will cause 25 million people to leave the state, and shut off water to the south half of the state for years ? They better be considered (a lot).
 
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I don't get you. How can they not be considered, when their failure will cause 25 million people to leave the state, and shut off water to the south half of the state for years ? They better be considered (a lot).


Mainly because I base my statement on reality...and you seem to base yours on speculation, opinion, and fear.
 
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Mainly because I base my statement on reality...and you seem to base yours on speculation, opinion, and fear.

My "speculation" as you call it, comes from geological experts in California.

1. Robert Bea, a professor at the University of California at Berkeley, heads the Resilient and Sustainable Infrastructure (RESIN), a research center set up to deal with the Delta crisis.
2. Cliff Dahm, a lead scientist for the Bay-Delta science program, says the delta plan is being written this year and will be released in January of next year. There’s only a finite amount of money. Upgrading thousands of miles of levees will cost billions of dollars.
3. http://calwater.ca.gov/science/about_csp/csp_staff.html
4. www.smartplanet.com/blog/science-scope/earthquake-could-threaten-californias-water-supply/7947http://calwater.ca.gov/science/about_csp/csp_staff.html
5. University of California (Davis) geologist, Jefferey Mount.
6. University of California (Davis) civil engineer, Jay Lund.
7. Phil Isenberg, Chairman, Deltavision Blue Ribbon Task Force
8. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18031391
9. http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com/securing-california-deltas-levees-major-earthquake?page=0,0
10. Doug Thompson of the California Dept.of Water Resources,>> "If it wasn't for this system, California would be dry down south."
11. http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_21952433/mark-cowin-levees-alone-wont-secure-californias-water
12. US Geological Survey - 63% chance that an earthquake with a magnitude of 6.7 or greater could hit the state's infamous Hayward fault in the next 25 years.
http://pubs.usgs.gov/circ/circ1182/pdf/11Delta.pdf

And your "reality" is based on what/who ?
 
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25 million people would be forced to move based on....what?

A 9.0 in southern California might effect a couple million...the failure of the entire San Andreas might possibly hi 10 million...but I am speculating on these numbers, as I cannot possibly make a valid claim any more than you can. I am well aware of the 13 major faults in the area, but do not know the probabilities , not does the USGS.

My reality on Natural Gas lines comes from large explosion due o breaks in them in the last few years...you know, observation:

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One of many
 
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25 million people would be forced to move based on....what?

A 9.0 in southern California might effect a couple million...the failure of the entire San Andreas might possibly hi 10 million...but I am speculating on these numbers, as I cannot possibly make a valid claim any more than you can. I am well aware of the 13 major faults in the area, but do not know the probabilities , not does the USGS.

My reality on Natural Gas lines comes from large explosion due o breaks in them in the last few years...you know, observation:

[YOUTUBE]9EpDY3i4eUY[/YOUTUBE]

One of many

Based on what ? You were told what, in the OP. Very clearly. And much more information added to that in in numerous links. So what's the problem, dude ? Having reading comprehension trouble ? Or maybe you're just a little too lazy to read the OP ?

Read Baby, Read. What do you think would happen when an entire region of people lose their fresh water supply for 3 years ?

Who am I ? Your tutor now ?
 
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