Iran is a bit pissed it seems.

Southern Dad · Sep 25, 2018

tecoyah said:
Obviously you do not "See" but have an affinity for placing your foul words into the mouths of others. It is unfortunate that discussion and debate are not your forte considering your position here.

Are you not afraid of Iran? A minute ago, I was reading posts that said we had to capitulate to Iran with this deal or they would wage Jihad upon us. Clarify, why should we be obligated to go with a deal that allows Iran to develop a nuclear bomb within ten years? What is the upside for the USA?

tecoyah · Sep 25, 2018

Southern Dad said:
Why were they returned in an unmarked plane and in the middle of the night?

I do not know the answer anymore than you do.

tecoyah · Sep 25, 2018

Southern Dad said:
Are you not afraid of Iran? A minute ago, I was reading posts that said we had to capitulate to Iran with this deal or they would wage Jihad upon us. Clarify, why should we be obligated to go with a deal that allows Iran to develop a nuclear bomb within ten years? What is the upside for the USA?

I no longer wish to converse with an individual who purposefully misinterprets what I type to make dishonest points....Dude, you suck at this.

Have A Nice Day

Southern Dad · Sep 25, 2018

tecoyah said:
I do not know the answer anymore than you do.

It was sent under the cover of night, in an unmarked plane because the government did not want anyone to know it was being shipped.

Southern Dad · Sep 25, 2018

tecoyah said:
I no longer wish to converse with an individual who purposefully misinterprets what I type to make dishonest points....Dude, you suck at this.

Have A Nice Day

The reason that you do not want to converse is because I've called you out on Iran. What is the reason that we have to take a lopsided deal that favors Iran? There's only one reason and that is because we are afraid of what they will do if we don't make the deal.

David · Sep 25, 2018

Southern Dad said:
It was sent under the cover of night, in an unmarked plane because the government did not want anyone to know it was being shipped.

That we were giving Iran the money we stole from them was public knowledge (hance this rant of yours). The hand off was low key because openly moving $150B is just asking to get robbed.

Southern Dad · Sep 26, 2018

David said:
That we were giving Iran the money we stole from them was public knowledge (hance this rant of yours). The hand off was low key because openly moving $150B is just asking to get robbed.

You are trying to say that our government was afraid of being robbed? That is why they moved the money, in cash, on pallets, in the middle of the night? Really??? How about because the Obama Administration didn’t want anyone to know we were handing over this large sum of cash to Iran. Which of course, they can now use to fund their nuclear project or whatever they want because we no longer have leverage.

Robbed? That’s the best argument on why we moved it in cash, at night, in an unmarked plane.

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David · Sep 26, 2018

Southern Dad said:
You are trying to say that our government was afraid of being robbed? That is why they moved the money, in cash, on pallets, in the middle of the night? Really??? How about because the Obama Administration didn’t want anyone to know we were handing over this large sum of cash to Iran. Which of course, they can now use to fund their nuclear project or whatever they want because we no longer have leverage.

Robbed? That’s the best argument on why we moved it in cash, at night, in an unmarked plane.

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Again, the return of the money was public knowledge once the deal was finalized. There was nothing secret about any of this. And yes the government was afraid of getting fucking robbed. You know how much money went missing in Iraq under similar circumstances (pallets of money on a plane) becuase they didn't take precautions? It was 1 of the biggest scandals of the Iraq War!

You're just ranting to rant at this point.

Southern Dad · Sep 26, 2018

David said:
Again, the return of the money was public knowledge once the deal was finalized. There was nothing secret about any of this. And yes the government was afraid of getting fucking robbed. You know how much money went missing in Iraq under similar circumstances (pallets of money on a plane) becuase they didn't take precautions? It was 1 of the biggest scandals of the Iraq War!

You're just ranting to rant at this point.

Do you think the Iran deal was a good deal for the USA? Were most Americans happy to find out about the cash transfer?

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tecoyah · Sep 26, 2018

The Iran deal was very good for many peoples and nations if only to place a hold on Nuclearization of insane people. Most Americans completely understood the how and why of freeing up Irans cash.

Southern Dad · Sep 26, 2018

tecoyah said:
The Iran deal was very good for many peoples and nations if only to place a hold on Nuclearization of insane people. Most Americans completely understood the how and why of freeing up Irans cash.

Do you think the Iran deal was good for the United States of America?

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tecoyah · Sep 26, 2018

Southern Dad said:
Do you think the Iran deal was good for the United States of America?

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Yes, I do. I feel it placed constraints on a very bad player in the world, eliminated large amounts of Nuclear material and equipment, forced monitoring of future attempts and production, created a powerful coalition of nations against the idea of a nuclear armed Iran, sent a strong message of "You are being watched to a regime that does not like it.

Southern Dad · Sep 26, 2018

tecoyah said:
Yes, I do. I feel it placed constraints on a very bad player in the world, eliminated large amounts of Nuclear material and equipment, forced monitoring of future attempts and production, created a powerful coalition of nations against the idea of a nuclear armed Iran, sent a strong message of "You are being watched to a regime that does not like it.

How are they being watched? Are they allowing inspectors unfettered access, any where in the country? We lifted sanctions, and returned a huge sum of money. What did Iran give up? A slight delay in their nuclear program?

The United States gained nothing from the deal. It was a horrible deal. Almost as bad as trading five high ranking Taliban for one Army deserter.

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tecoyah · Sep 26, 2018

Southern Dad said:
How are they being watched? Are they allowing inspectors unfettered access, any where in the country? We lifted sanctions, and returned a huge sum of money. What did Iran give up? A slight delay in their nuclear program?

The United States gained nothing from the deal. It was a horrible deal. Almost as bad as trading five high ranking Taliban for one Army deserter.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33521655

Not that I expect you will read or accept these facts.

Southern Dad · Sep 26, 2018

tecoyah said:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33521655

Not that I expect you will read or accept these facts.

I read it but if your going to resort to insults, you sure can’t complain that we can’t have good conversations her when you post messages like the one that I have quoted.

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tecoyah · Sep 26, 2018

Southern Dad said:
I read it but if your going to resort to insults, you sure can’t complain that we can’t have good conversations her when you post messages like the one that I have quoted.

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I did not realize your level of sensitivity....I apologize.

Southern Dad · Sep 26, 2018

I see.

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tecoyah · Sep 26, 2018

Is there some reason that you want to drive the non trump loving membership away?

Southern Dad · Sep 26, 2018

tecoyah said:
Is there some reason that you want to drive the non trump loving membership away?

You mean because I don’t instantly agree with all the Democrat talking points and actually have conversations that make you explain your position rather than just say Trump bad?

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tecoyah · Sep 26, 2018

Southern Dad said:
You mean because I don’t instantly agree with all the Democrat talking points and actually have conversations that make you explain your position rather than just say Trump bad?

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Sure...if that is what you call it.

By the way..I am a lifelong (until recently) Republican. I am simply not Trumpist.

Iran is a bit pissed it seems.

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