Is Islam a Religion

Protectionist · Jan 10, 2013

tecoyah said:
You have two choices at this point:

1) Lose the attitude, stop treating our membership disrespectfully, and be someone others wish to play with.

~OR~

2) Lose the ability to do so.

I propose YOU stop treating me disrespectfully, and restore my OP that you CENSORED out, or forever hold the REPUTATION of a FREE SPEECH SUPPRESSING FORUM.

And, where's your threat to chris ? Want me to itemize a list of HIS disrespects, you seem to neglect to notice ?

Protectionist · Jan 10, 2013

chris7375 said:
I am not talking stupid every political forum I am a member of the members like to see links they can read to back up your opinion. Again though you are right and I am wrong. So I will shuffle off to my corner with my stupid hat and pretend that all the other forum I belong to don't ask for the same thing.

I'd rather have a very substantial source like >> Mohamed Akram, "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America" May 22, 1991, Government Exhibit 003-0085, United States vs. Holy Land Foundation, et al. , than one of lesser stature linked to a computer input. There are millions of computer links that are nowhere near as good a source as this one listed here.

I don't a hoot about a link. I like to see a GOOD SOURCE (and I'm not too lazy to look it up)

tecoyah · Jan 10, 2013

Protectionist said:
....snip... I like to see a GOOD SOURCE (and I'm not too lazy to look it up)

Obviously, you are too lazy, and we would like to see a source as well.

http://www.charityandsecurity.org/litigation/Summary_Fifth_Circuit_HLF_Decision

Protectionist · Jan 10, 2013

tecoyah said:
Obviously, you are too lazy, and we would like to see a source as well.

http://www.charityandsecurity.org/litigation/Summary_Fifth_Circuit_HLF_Decision

Yeah ? You want see some good sources ? Try these >>

Post 55/56 >> http://www.politicalfray.com/showthread.php?t=3575&page=4

PS - you should stop treating our membership (in this case, me) disrespectfully, ("Obviously, you are too lazy") And the source you provided is no better than what I did.

tecoyah · Jan 10, 2013

While the effort is admirable and the intensity of links quite vast...it would seem a group of links to terrorist plots may not cover the subject matter in question. The ("Obviously, you are too lazy") comment was actually from you, and thus does less to make me seem disrespectful than yourself.
As for treating our membership poorly, if I have done so outside my position here I will happily apologize, however I will most certainly work to prevent it from others...as in your case.

Protectionist · Jan 10, 2013

tecoyah said:
While the effort is admirable and the intensity of links quite vast...it would seem a group of links to terrorist plots may not cover the subject matter in question. The ("Obviously, you are too lazy") comment was actually from you, and thus does less to make me seem disrespectful than yourself.
As for treating our membership poorly, if I have done so outside my position here I will happily apologize, however I will most certainly work to prevent it from others...as in your case.

First, the sources listed are all in the context of a single thread in which the subject matter is Islam. Actually, MOST of my OP threads (63%) have nothing to do with Islam. And you reviewed my sources, you'd find they are much more about Islamization (NON-violent jihad) than about terrorism.

And the comment "Obviously, you are too lazy" (wherever else it may have appeared), CAME FROM YOU in post # 163, right here in this thread.
No need to apologize. I generally, don't accept apologies, since they are self-serving acts designed for the benefit of the apologizer, not really anyone else. As for working to prevent treating our membership poorly, time will tell. One things's for sure > the whole forum is watching. For now, I take you at your word.

clax · Jan 10, 2013

tecoyah said:
While the effort is admirable and the intensity of links quite vast...it would seem a group of links to terrorist plots may not cover the subject matter in question. The ("Obviously, you are too lazy") comment was actually from you, and thus does less to make me seem disrespectful than yourself.
As for treating our membership poorly, if I have done so outside my position here I will happily apologize, however I will most certainly work to prevent it from others...as in your case.

I have never been treated poorly by you, and we vehemently disagree on very heated topics. I think you are one of the most respectful members here.

Mermaid · Jan 11, 2013

Protectionist said:
This is why I don't like talking to you. Are you blind ? Where are my sources, you ask ? They are right there in the original post (#113) where I posted the information. Try looking again (if you ever looked at all).

And no bin Laden did NOT say he would cease. He said exactly the opposite of that , and I just gave you 2 quotes from him attesting to that with source. ANd the Muslim Brotherhoods's Explanatory Memorandum has it's source supplied in Post # 113 as well. And the best kind you could get - an exhibit from a court trial of the US Justice Dept. Get with it, man.

You are saying some of the most idiotic stuff I've ever heard. You think 1400 years of Muslims attacking people all over the world (to wherever they could get to) is because the US went to the ME during the last 20 years ?

Do you think a US invasion caused all THIS >> Get real, dude!

Basra attacked/conquered - 634 AD

Damascus attacked/conquered - 635 AD

Ctesiphon attacked/conquered - 636 AD

Alexandria attacked/conquered - 641 AD

Sicily attacked/conquered - 666 AD

Kabul attacked/conquered - 670 AD

Jerusalem attacked/conquered - 687 AD

Carthage attacked/conquered - 698 AD

Southern Spain attacked/conquered - 711 AD

Narbonne (Southern France) attacked/conquered - 720 AD

Battle of Poitiers (France) - Muslim advance halted - 732 AD

Armenia attacked/conquered - 1064 AD

Battle of Manzikert - 1071 AD

Nicaea attacked/conquered - 1331 AD

Kosovo attacked/conquered - 1389 AD

Bulgaria attacked/conquered - 1393 AD

Constantinople attacked - 1453 AD

Greece attacked/conquered - 1460 AD

Belgrade attacked/conquered - 1521 AD

Siege of Vienna (attacked) - Muslim advance halted - 1683 AD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquests

http://www.meforum.org/3182/history-muslim-conquests

PS - Chalmers Johnson is an ant-imperialist whose time has come and gone. Gone because America is no longer an imperialist nation, and in fact, we are the victims of imperialism, whereby many countries (Most notably Mexico) are pillaging us for tens of Billions$$ per year. Here's a more complete list of books for you.

1. They Must Be Stopped by Brigitte Gabriel

2. The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) by Robert Spencer

3. Stealth Jihad by Robert Spencer

4. Infiltration by Paul Sperry

5. The Day of Islam by Dr. Paul Williams

6. Sharia: the Threat to America by the Center for Security Policy

7. The Third Jihad (DVD) by Dr. Zuddhi Jasser

8. Muslim Mafia by P.David Gaubatz & Paul Sperry

do you know which country had supported these radicals against the russian danger during the cold war ?

at least you may be honest......

Protectionist · Jan 11, 2013

clax said:
I have never been treated poorly by you, and we vehemently disagree on very heated topics. I think you are one of the most respectful members here.

LOL. We all know what to call this.

Protectionist · Jan 11, 2013

Mermaid said:
do you know which country had supported these radicals against the russian danger during the cold war ?

at least you may be honest......

The radicals in these books are the US Muslim Brotherhood, not al Qaeda.

clax · Jan 11, 2013

Protectionist said:
LOL. We all know what to call this.

Yeah, it's called truth.

Protectionist · Jan 11, 2013

clax said:
Yeah, it's called truth.

Since the mods in this forum are so inordinately-sensitive, (and that's OK), but I can't say what it's really called, but we all know. :giggle:

clax · Jan 12, 2013

Protectionist said:
Since the mods in this forum are so inordinately-sensitive, (and that's OK), but I can't say what it's really called, but we all know. :giggle:

the mods are sensitive you were crying about being called a pony.:giggle::giggle::giggle:

bosco · Jan 12, 2013

islam teach terrorism,and fight with non muslims and fight among themselves.now muslim have no idea how to solve problem they find all answer in guns and bombs and killing innocent muslims and non muslims

tecoyah · Jan 12, 2013

bosco said:
islam teach terrorism,and fight with non muslims and fight among themselves.now muslim have no idea how to solve problem they find all answer in guns and bombs and killing innocent muslims and non muslims

Interesting...I have a friend named Engin, an Iranian American Islamic Muslim. Between him and Emin (another friend with the same background) you would think I would have been taught an amazing amount of Terrorist tactics by now.

I suppose they have neglected my training due to the Bar hopping, clubbing, BBQ nights, and poker games.

I feel CHEATED....gonna have a little talk.

clax · Jan 12, 2013

tecoyah said:
Interesting...I have a friend named Engin, an Iranian American Islamic Muslim. Between him and Emin (another friend with the same background) you would think I would have been taught an amazing amount of Terrorist tactics by now.

I suppose they have neglected my training due to the Bar hopping, clubbing, BBQ nights, and poker games.

I feel CHEATED....gonna have a little talk.

Interesting, I have a Muslim friend, his name is Mike he is a Marine and a combat veteran. He plays bass for a metal band, he owns a recording studio.

I feel cheated also.

Mermaid · Jan 12, 2013

Protectionist said:
The radicals in these books are the US Muslim Brotherhood, not al Qaeda.

l am pointing out your hate towards muslims! .

if you dislike them ,firstly you must criticize the us governments for supporting them.

even the arabian spring which is supported by usa has been increasing the number of radical monsters in this region

and you are a muslim hater!!

modern crusader!!

anatolia has been turkish for hundreds of years as america has been american for hundreds of years!

cant see a difference!

two faced bigot.....

sorry l am glad we took the control of anatolia !!

Basra attacked/conquered - 634 AD

Damascus attacked/conquered - 635 AD

Ctesiphon attacked/conquered - 636 AD

Alexandria attacked/conquered - 641 AD

Sicily attacked/conquered - 666 AD

Kabul attacked/conquered - 670 AD

Jerusalem attacked/conquered - 687 AD

Carthage attacked/conquered - 698 AD

Southern Spain attacked/conquered - 711 AD

Narbonne (Southern France) attacked/conquered - 720 AD

Battle of Poitiers (France) - Muslim advance halted - 732 AD

Armenia attacked/conquered - 1064 AD

Battle of Manzikert - 1071 AD

Nicaea attacked/conquered - 1331 AD

Kosovo attacked/conquered - 1389 AD

Bulgaria attacked/conquered - 1393 AD

Constantinople attacked - 1453 AD

Greece attacked/conquered - 1460 AD

Belgrade attacked/conquered - 1521 AD

what about native americans ?

.(((((((((((((((((((((

tecoyah · Jan 12, 2013

Mermaid said:
....snip...

two faced bigot.....
(

You know I appreciate you fully woman....but, This borders on insult.

Please refrain going forward.

David · Jan 12, 2013

tecoyah said:
Interesting...I have a friend named Engin, an Iranian American Islamic Muslim. Between him and Emin (another friend with the same background) you would think I would have been taught an amazing amount of Terrorist tactics by now.

I suppose they have neglected my training due to the Bar hopping, clubbing, BBQ nights, and poker games.

I feel CHEATED....gonna have a little talk.

Living in Kissimee, about 1/4 of my neighborhood was Muslim, about 1/3 of my customers were Muslim, most of the surrounding businesses were Muslim and there was a masque across the street from where I worked... Never met nicer people and they can cook a mean gyro.

Mermaid · Jan 12, 2013

tecoyah said:
You know I appreciate you fully woman....but, This borders on insult.

Please refrain going forward.

l know ,but some users are beyond the reason

sorry .(

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