You havent rpoved a thing. Your stil playing this genralzatyion game which doesnt mean a thing at all.
Israel/Palestine - Two State Solution?
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I'm a non-Zionist Jew in opposition to the Israeli state and the ruling regime in Israel. I have yet to have anyone call me a nazi for holding these beliefs. And I'm pretty sure my views on the subject are not those which encourage people to call me a communist. I presume those are my ideas on economics etc.
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A from what I have seen you argue anything for the sake of it.
B you also said you live in Britian.
5 peope 50 peopel 5000 people doesnt change the enormous american, bias towards Isreal thats discussed often by many people. Sticking your head's in the sand and denying that wont change it as fact.
My main beef with the criticism of Israel has been a question of what you would want your local government to do if you had a neighbor firing missiles onto your territory daily. Would you sit there and just let it happen?
And yeah, I'm aware of what Israel does with settlements, and how both Hamas and Israel have contributed to the suffering of Palestinians, I just don't see any solution coming up unless Israel stops being stubborn and Hamas is either taken out or they withdraw the destruction of Israel from their charter. IMO it's far harder to deal with an ideology than it is to deal with actions pertaining to policy.
And yeah, I'm aware of what Israel does with settlements, and how both Hamas and Israel have contributed to the suffering of Palestinians, I just don't see any solution coming up unless Israel stops being stubborn and Hamas is either taken out or they withdraw the destruction of Israel from their charter. IMO it's far harder to deal with an ideology than it is to deal with actions pertaining to policy.
You just haven't pegged my ideals.
I do, I suppose my point doesn't really matter, since I am not American, nor do I live in America, and your point pertained specifically to that. I'll give you that.
There's not that holistic an American bias, actually. Was the protest at the Oakland docks, which delayed an Israeli ship, denounced as Nazi? No, of course not (probably partly because it was organised by moderates, lefties and trade unions, and a Nazi accusation would have been absurd).
That there's a bias is no doubt, but I agree with others that it's far too general to present it as absolute.
It was by the few that were aware of it, American Media rarely mentions these types of things at all, because of the Bias.
In America, political correctness runs wild. Any statement is attacked along these ridiculous lines. You have to issue exceptions and disclaimers to everything. The "proof" these other two offered was they claim not to think that way, so it’s not true which is Ludicrous. Individuals do not matter in this. The media bias is unquestionable. American foreign policy Is no different regardless of the claims of monetary support to Palestine, numbers which wildly varies from source to source and are vastly exaggerated by pro-Israeli types. Then there is the 200+ UN resolutions vetoed by the US.
Oh I do know your ideas btw, your a communist
In America, political correctness runs wild. Any statement is attacked along these ridiculous lines. You have to issue exceptions and disclaimers to everything. The "proof" these other two offered was they claim not to think that way, so it’s not true which is Ludicrous. Individuals do not matter in this. The media bias is unquestionable. American foreign policy Is no different regardless of the claims of monetary support to Palestine, numbers which wildly varies from source to source and are vastly exaggerated by pro-Israeli types. Then there is the 200+ UN resolutions vetoed by the US.
Oh I do know your ideas btw, your a communist
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Missiles every day?! No. The most recent rockets, the majority had no warheads and were on caliber with the kind of Rocket Wile E Coyote straps himself too. To call the Israeli response disproportionate is taking understatement to a whole new dimension.
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