JFK assassination and the CIA

7forever · Apr 10, 2011

treeghost said:
This idea was put out there a LOOOONG time before you came along 7forever and proven wrong by true experts - professors of physics, photography etc. You are just are proving you're a copycat. A boring one at that.
Who's gifs are you using? The second/third generation ones?
You would never DARE try and pull this 'you proved' bullshit in forums I've seen where the REAL experts and authors of articles on the subject post their findings.
That the Zapruder film was tampered with there is no denying, trying to make it seem like Oswald was the lone gunman, FAIL...but the driver did not fire the killshot no matter how hard you wish he did.

The driver killing jfk was covered up a long time time before I came along and was ignored by idiot experts - professors of physics, photography etc. You are just proving you're a copycat. A boring one at that.LOL
You would never DEBATE ME IN PUBLIC BECAUSE I WOULD LAUGH IN YOUR FACE.LOL The Zapruder film was proven altered by showing Greer's arm crossing which is something little twits like yourself must ignore. The driver did fire the killshot no matter how many times you deny it.

7forever · Apr 11, 2011

The great fake reflection footage that started it all in 7-09.

-The fake blob recoils and separates from Roy's head when Greer fires revolver.
-The fake hand coming off wheel begins with 2 dots.
-They both make eye contact after turning back straight.
-Kellerman raises hand signaling that Greer's gonna shoot back.
-The white lane (by driver's door) comes into focus just in time to blend in with the fake grey streak which mirrored Greer's arm crossing that's seen in the nix film.
-The fake grey streak is over his shoulder first and then across when it's needed.
-The fake forehead reflection replacing Greer's hand is the only one that cannot be independently proven fake without the nix film or other evidence.
-Kellerman moves his head forward, backward and forward again in 1 second in an attempt to block the gun's view from the north side of Elm street.
-Watch the driver's door when Greer turns to shoot back. Something appears beneath the white lane which is very likely the curb.
-Watch the top of Greer's head after he shoots jfk. He still had a reflection, so they darkened it to distract from the silly fakery on Roy's head.

Greer's arm crosses in nix, confirming the logical reasons for Zapruder film fakery.

YouTube - Jfk Assassination the limo driver theory Debunked

7forever · Apr 12, 2011

realityuncovered.net locks truth about driver shooting JFK

by Zep Tepi ? Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:29 am
Gifs are not proof of anything, and bringing arguments here from elsewhere is also a little bizarre.
Until I or any of the other admins have time to review the flood of posts in this thread (which at first glance all appear to say the same thing) this thread is locked.

My response to this nonsense reply: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 10:36 AM

I did not post the same thing. What are you talking about when referring to the same thing? I am the first researcher to post conclusive evidence of Zfilm alteration by showing Greer's left arm crossing his right shoulder in the nix film. I started posting that in October, 2010. This case is closed, solved and no amount of denials will change that. For the last 15 months I proved and posted this no-brainer without any challenge whatsoever. Advance this clip to 1:09 and view his left arm crossing in unison with the headshot.
Dailymotion - jfk assassination films-orville nix - a News & Politics video
CLEAR GIF FILE THAT HAS SOLVED THIS IDIOTIC COVER-UP.

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7forever · Apr 12, 2011

punjedi said:
The driver shot Kennedy,
To make a constant and redundant cry out of YOUR opinion which counters that of thousands of other opinions?

Greer killing Kennedy is completely obvious, it always has been, but I proved it by showing mountains of evidence that was left ignored and not exposed. An opinion...LOL

7forever · Apr 13, 2011

travvysavvy said:
The driver didn't shoot him. In the Zapruder film, you can clearly see his hand in the kill shot frame, and it is not holding a handgun or any other weapon. ing than we know, but Kennedy most definitely warned us of this.

The driver passes the gun before he turns the first time and his hand and arm cross over his shoulder in Nix when Jfk's shot. I simply exposed this epic blunder carried out by 1960's idiots. People like you commit the same lies over and over and over. It's like beating a midget at basketball.

Greer's left arm crosses with headshot.

7forever · Apr 13, 2011

A great post from yt. It's an obvious truth that only recently got some exposure.

WHY don't you people look into these things why do you only look at the outer and never want to see the inner.Look up bohemian grove another government secret EXPOSED or how they want to depopulate the world. A conspiracy consist of something like big foot,these government secrets are not conspiracy they are simply the truths just suppressed by the government and people who refuse to believe in the government doing this but it's all true and soon it will be entirely exposed.

7forever · Apr 14, 2011

travvysavvy said:
7forever said:

travvysavvy said:

You seem to have failed to read my post. I've read all of your "compelling evidence"...
to suggest they hall had a little clown car party pass along, isn't absurd or anything, it's just to fallible and risky.
I'm not claiming to know exactly what happened, but I'm getting tired of all this "compelling evidence" and testimony that is lacking.

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You have NOT challenged anything I've posted, and saying the evidence is lacking is just you blowing hot air. It is not my evidence, but the evidence that proves Greer is the shooter, which should've been exposed by people born in 40's and 50's. I was born in the 70's and that fact is proof of how pathetic this case really is.

7forever · Apr 14, 2011

Modern Kennedy research is exactly where the Nix film places it. First off, not ignoring that Greer passes the gun in Zapruder and second, seeing his left arm cross in Nix. That's the evidence right there. Two visual facts along with alot more that make Greer shooting jfk an irrefutable fact. In other words, there will never be any challenge posed against this truth. It will be ignored by researchers and the average person will laugh at how obvious it is.

Greer passes the gun in Z and his left hand goes missing because the film pans upward. There is no evidence in Zapruder that his left hand ever returned to the wheel. At least a few researchers have outright lied about Greer's hands not leaving the wheel when it's crystal clear in the frames.

Greer's left arm crosses his right shoulder in Nix, proving the government generated illusion is an obvious truth confirmed by the Albert Nix film.

7forever · Apr 15, 2011

The driver killed kennedy

Greer's left arm crossing in the Nix film and the fake reflection in Zapruder are in perfect sync with the headshot.

FRAMES 312-313

case closed

Pottersville · Apr 15, 2011

curious said:
I thought maybe some of you hadn't heard this conpspiracy theory joke:

Q: How do you know the CIA didn't kill Kennedy?

A: He died.

That's not a joke it's a riddle.
And even it it was a joke, the joke would be on you 'cause you are sans clue.

Here's where you can get a clue:
http://www.amazon.com/JFK-Unspeakable-Why-Died-Matters/dp/1439193886/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1302920515&sr=1-1

7forever · Apr 16, 2011

JFK'S real assassin, William Greer, provides correct wound path

Mr. Specter.
Did you just mention, Mr. Greer, a hole in the President's head in addition to the large area of the skull which was shot away?
Mr. Greer.
No. I had just seen that, you know, the head was damaged in all this part of it but I believe looking at the X-rays, I looked at the X-rays when they were taken in the autopsy room, and the person who does that type work showed us the trace of it because there would be little specks of lead where the bullet had come from here and it came to the--they showed where it didn't come on through. It came to a sinus cavity or something they said, over the eye.

Mr. Specter.
Indicating the right eye. (Greer pointed over his right eye)
Mr. Greer.
I may be wrong.
Mr. Specter.
You don't know which eye?
Mr. Greer.
I don't know which eye, I may be wrong. But they showed us the trace of it coming through but there were very little small specks on the X-rays that these professionals knew what course that the bullet had taken, the lead.
Mr. Specter.
Would you describe in very general terms what injury you observed as to the President's head during the course of the autopsy?
Mr. Greer.
I would--to the best of my recollection it was in this part of the head right here.
Mr. Specter.
Upper right?
Mr. Greer.
Upper right side.
Mr. Specter.
Upper right side, going toward the rear. And what was the condition of the skull at that point?
Mr. Greer.
The skull was completely--this part was completely gone.
Upper right side, going toward the rear fired by Greer.

FRAME 337

7forever · Apr 20, 2011

kirin-rex said:
Who testified that they saw Greer shoot JFK?

I posted many witnesses who gave testimony about a shot in or around the car. The lack of witnesses is not a defense. The Zapruder film being altered to hide Greer's arm crossing and him passing the gun in Z is conclusive proof that he was the fatal shooter.

7forever · Apr 20, 2011

kirin-rex said:
Do you feel that even a .45 caliber pistol, even at close range, would be capable of causing the head wound suffered by JFK?
You posted several witnesses before who claimed to have seen a gun in the car (including a rifle) or who claimed that the sound of the shots seemed to have come from the car, or who thought they saw 'firecrackers' going off in the car. Did anyone claim to have seen the driver shoot JFK?

Yes, everyone whose seen the nix film close-up has seen Greer kill jfk. The damage is exaggerated in Zapruder. The red blotch is fake on the right side. The back of his head opens up at the moment of front right impact.

The rear skull detaches between 313-314.

7forever · Apr 20, 2011

BlueAngel said:
You haven't provided any witnesses who saw or heard anything that proves Greer shot Kennedy.

I don't need eyewitnesses, nor would a prosecutor, when they have video footage of the killer, killing their victim. Greer's left arm crossing in Nix proves Zapruder was altered to hide Greer's arm movements that killed Kennedy.

Fake reflection causes headshot for Z.

7forever · Apr 21, 2011

The damage is exaggerated in Zapruder. The red blotch is fake on the right side. The back of his head opens up at the moment of front right impact.

FRAME 312, BEFORE THE REAR GAPES OPEN.

7forever · Apr 23, 2011

trueblue said:
I'm going to put on my serious moderator hat now;

7forever, until you came along, I actually gave some credit to the Greer theory. You have certainly proven to me,at least, that it's just another distraction.

The truth about the driver killing Kennedy is a distraction for idiotic theories like Jackie and the only real conspiracy theory, the grassy knoll.

7forever · Apr 23, 2011

malkor said:
sorry, you're out of luck with that one. there is no evidence of a right front entrance. the video evidence shows an exit somewhere on the right side.
from greer's position, the entrance would have been from the front. the debris flies in the wrong direction for that to be possible.

There is zero evidence of any exit on the right side or front. Show us one frame or autopsy pic with the government's fantasy exit. There is none. The rear skull opens up at the moment of front right impact.

7forever · Apr 25, 2011

The right rear exit wound confirmed @ closer examination

There is zero evidence of any exit on the right side or front. There is no evidence which holds up to scrutiny that supports a right side entrance because it would've exited the left side not right rear. The grassy knoll is a clever red herring that was easily debunked by simple geometry. The rear skull opens up at the moment of front right impact.

This is just before 313. The top and bottom of the skull is distinguishable with the hole in between.

FRAME 313 is more difficult to decipher the top of the skull but the same thing appears and the zoom makes it clear. There appears to be a tail at the bottom break in the skull, which confuses things without the zoom.

7forever · Apr 25, 2011

The old copies of Zapruder always show incriminating evidence of the rear exit and film alteration more clearly.
Frame 312 shows no fake red mist and his head intact. Frame 313 shows the rear gape clearly in this copy without any confusion. The eye can easily distinguish the top and bottom skull and the hole in between.

7forever · Apr 25, 2011

A rare but honest post from a forum owner

Bigsky770 said:
7forever:
?I'm not sure what you could possibly disagree with me on. You don't say what that is but
at least you seem like a nice guy, not some crazed site admin hell bent on denying reality?

:lol: heh. . .We don't work that way 'round here. You're cool. 7forever - what I mean is, (though)
you certainly provide convincing argument the main actor here *could have been* the driver -
(no denying that), I still believe given everything I'd seen they wanted JFK out of the way so
badly they set-up (at least three) locations he may have taken the hit from. . .I still think
the grassy knoll played a part in this, the shots' timing so well synched it was planned this way in
order to sow the confusion we'd been dealing with for nearly 50 years. Purposeful, they could
then draw from the list of names those who had actually performed the act, 'most easily
disposed', (in this case, LHO). I really believe LHO's rifle was nothing more than a party
favour, a 'noise maker', a mere distraction just like a magician's slight-of-hand trick.
Given that, it certainly may have been the driver. I'm cool with that, added insurance
provided 'the grassy knoll'. Okay.
NOW; What might we view after the fact for the reasons why TPTB saw fit to remove JFK?
(it being that there's no chance of prosecution at this point, add to which, no court would
dare touch the case to even bother proving innocence/guilt concerning the driver). What
followed this horrific act that TPTB could 'change things', steering away from the path JFK
sought?
What I mean is - often in viewing events shortly after and noting changes, you can then
establish a path back to whom the actual killers were. Follow?
Joe (Bigsky770)

A good post and I will add to some of it later on. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, so I wouldn't know why, only what I've heard and read. I was born in the 70's which makes this coming out from a person of my generation very pathetic and ridiculous. I simply sleuthed this case in regards to who fired the fatal shot...that's pretty much it.

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