I have never been challenged by anyone because it's the opposition that would have to prove many things that have never happened and are impossible, could actually happen. My work has been ignored on the boards and that's the truth of the matter.
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I have never been challenged by anyone because it's the opposition that would have to prove many things that have never happened and are impossible, could actually happen. My work has been ignored on the boards and that's the truth of the matter.
You see Greer's left arm crossing his right shoulder like everyone sees because it happens and is not debatable. If you say he's not quickly moving his left arm over his right shoulder then you are lying because no defense attorney in the real world would deny it because he'd lose credibility with the jury. It happens and that proves the zfilm was heavily altered to hide that fact. That fact all by itself proves Greer killed Kennedy.
The headshot happens exactly when Greer's left arm crosses his right shoulder in the nix film. In Zapruder, the fake reflection extends in unison with the headshot between 312-313. These are visual facts that no attorney could refute in a courtroom.
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This whole thread is nothing but me reposting the same evidence and receiving no challenge. How can you claim to challenge something you haven't challenged even remotely. YOU ARE DELUSIONAL, that's the answer.
You've been raped by the pink elephant over and over and over and over and you will continue to deny that fact.
The driver killed kennedy
Mocking an entire generation of baby boomers whose 47 year reign on covering up Jfk's real assassin has ended
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/hill_j.htm
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Over the past 24 hours a certain Robert Hanson was successful in penetrating the Deep Politics Forum with the obvious truth about the driver killing Kennedy and I banned him because the truth raped my soul so I used my power to censor the truth that has been known by Fetzer, Groden and hundreds of other researchers for decades.
In doing so, Hanson hosted a most enlightening workshop in the craft of sleuthing.
About a half-hour ago I discovered Hanson's blog, "The Driver Killed Kennedy." It seems to have been created on November 19 of this year.
From his blog there is his thread titled "Jean Hill saw Greer shoot back."
In classic sleuthing style, Hanson cites a lengthy segment of Hill's WC testimony given to Arlen Specter so as to A) demonstrate his own familiarity with the record, and B) appeal to reading comprehension and general Kennedy sleuthing.
In essence, Hill states that she simply saw the Secret Service shooting back which is totally obvious to everyone looking at Greer's left arm crossing his right shoulder in the nix film. SHE STATES THAT SHE SAW THE SS SHOOT BACK AND SHE CLEARLY STATES THAT SHE HEARD GUNFIRE FROM THE GRASSY KNOLL. This, in the real world is called corroboration. Greer is the only ss agent who shot back, so she could not have meant anyone else.
Mr. SPECTER - You thought that perhaps the second burst of shots you heard were being directed toward him by the Secret Service?
Mrs. HILL - I Just thought, "Oh, goodness, the Secret Service is shooting back."
Hanson is TELLING THE TRUTH when he states that "Jean Hill saw Greer shoot back,"
It's that simple.
I believe that he is TELLING TRUTH BUT AM REALLY AFRAID TO ADMIT IT.
Here's what Hill told Specter -- as published by Hanson on his own blog:
Mr. SPECTER - What was your impression as to the source of the second group of shots which you have described as the fourth, perhaps the fifth, and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL - Well, nothing, except that I thought that they were fired by someone else.
Mr. SPECTER - And did you have any idea where they were coming from?
Mrs. HILL - No; as I said, I thought they were coming from the general direction of that knoll.
Mr. SPECTER - Well, did you think that the Secret Service was firing them from that knoll?
Mrs. HILL - I said I didn't know-I really don't.
Specter was trying to make her sound crazy but she was simply describing the confusion of gunshots coming from all directions. She saw Greer shoot back and she heard what she thought were multiple shots from the knoll although there was only one fired immediately after Greer shot Kennedy to provide a distraction for Greer. The last shot arguably did come from the north knoll but was was fired to only confuse people as to who shot Kennedy. Without the last shot that followed Greer's, people would have thrown their hands up like the agents did after Roberts called them off jfk's limo. It was a dummie shot to confuse and give witnesses an alternative account for where the fatal shot really came from, the ss agent driving Kennedy's limo.
Mr. SPECTER - You just had the general impression that shots were coming from the knoll?
Mrs. HILL - Yes.
Mr. SPECTER - And you had the general impression that the Secret Service was firing the second group of shots at the man who fired the first group of shots?
Mrs. HILL - That's right.
Mr. SPECTER - But you had no specific impression as to the source of those shots?
Mrs. HILL - No.
What could have prompted Hill to conclude that the SS was shooting in Dealey Plaza? Because she was looking right at Greer when he shot back at jfk's forehead.
Mr. SPECTER - You thought that perhaps the second burst of shots you heard were being directed toward him by the Secret Service?
Mrs. HILL - I Just thought, "Oh, goodness, the Secret Service is shooting back."
Mrs. Hill - ... I thought, because I guess from the TV and movies, that it was Secret Service agents shooting back. To me, if somebody shoots at somebody they always shoot back and so I just thought that that's what it was and I thought, well, they are getting him and shooting back, you know; I didn't know[.]
In point of FACT:
Hill offers eyewitness evidence for a Greer Shot.
Hill offers compelling ear witness testimony for a Grassy Knoll shot which is the red herring promoted by Hollywood and disinfo clowns like Groden and Fetzer.
And so we're left with this:
For the third time, Hanson is TELLING THE TRUTH when he states that "Jean Hill saw Greer shoot back." I see no other viable interpretations for his obvious claim.
It's that simple.
Expect more of this sort of truth movement as we move closer to the 50th anniversary of the Dealey Plaza coup d'etat. I am afraid but I know just beneath the surface that Greer killed Kennedy.
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Mocking an entire generation of baby boomers whose 47 year reign on covering up Jfk's real assassin has ended
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/hill_j.htm
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "www.deeppoliticsforum.com
Over the past 24 hours a certain Robert Hanson was successful in penetrating the Deep Politics Forum with the obvious truth about the driver killing Kennedy and I banned him because the truth raped my soul so I used my power to censor the truth that has been known by Fetzer, Groden and hundreds of other researchers for decades.
In doing so, Hanson hosted a most enlightening workshop in the craft of sleuthing.
About a half-hour ago I discovered Hanson's blog, "The Driver Killed Kennedy." It seems to have been created on November 19 of this year.
From his blog there is his thread titled "Jean Hill saw Greer shoot back."
In classic sleuthing style, Hanson cites a lengthy segment of Hill's WC testimony given to Arlen Specter so as to A) demonstrate his own familiarity with the record, and B) appeal to reading comprehension and general Kennedy sleuthing.
In essence, Hill states that she simply saw the Secret Service shooting back which is totally obvious to everyone looking at Greer's left arm crossing his right shoulder in the nix film. SHE STATES THAT SHE SAW THE SS SHOOT BACK AND SHE CLEARLY STATES THAT SHE HEARD GUNFIRE FROM THE GRASSY KNOLL. This, in the real world is called corroboration. Greer is the only ss agent who shot back, so she could not have meant anyone else.
Mr. SPECTER - You thought that perhaps the second burst of shots you heard were being directed toward him by the Secret Service?
Mrs. HILL - I Just thought, "Oh, goodness, the Secret Service is shooting back."
Hanson is TELLING THE TRUTH when he states that "Jean Hill saw Greer shoot back,"
It's that simple.
I believe that he is TELLING TRUTH BUT AM REALLY AFRAID TO ADMIT IT.
Here's what Hill told Specter -- as published by Hanson on his own blog:
Mr. SPECTER - What was your impression as to the source of the second group of shots which you have described as the fourth, perhaps the fifth, and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL - Well, nothing, except that I thought that they were fired by someone else.
Mr. SPECTER - And did you have any idea where they were coming from?
Mrs. HILL - No; as I said, I thought they were coming from the general direction of that knoll.
Mr. SPECTER - Well, did you think that the Secret Service was firing them from that knoll?
Mrs. HILL - I said I didn't know-I really don't.
Specter was trying to make her sound crazy but she was simply describing the confusion of gunshots coming from all directions. She saw Greer shoot back and she heard what she thought were multiple shots from the knoll although there was only one fired immediately after Greer shot Kennedy to provide a distraction for Greer. The last shot arguably did come from the north knoll but was was fired to only confuse people as to who shot Kennedy. Without the last shot that followed Greer's, people would have thrown their hands up like the agents did after Roberts called them off jfk's limo. It was a dummie shot to confuse and give witnesses an alternative account for where the fatal shot really came from, the ss agent driving Kennedy's limo.
Mr. SPECTER - You just had the general impression that shots were coming from the knoll?
Mrs. HILL - Yes.
Mr. SPECTER - And you had the general impression that the Secret Service was firing the second group of shots at the man who fired the first group of shots?
Mrs. HILL - That's right.
Mr. SPECTER - But you had no specific impression as to the source of those shots?
Mrs. HILL - No.
What could have prompted Hill to conclude that the SS was shooting in Dealey Plaza? Because she was looking right at Greer when he shot back at jfk's forehead.
Mr. SPECTER - You thought that perhaps the second burst of shots you heard were being directed toward him by the Secret Service?
Mrs. HILL - I Just thought, "Oh, goodness, the Secret Service is shooting back."
Mrs. Hill - ... I thought, because I guess from the TV and movies, that it was Secret Service agents shooting back. To me, if somebody shoots at somebody they always shoot back and so I just thought that that's what it was and I thought, well, they are getting him and shooting back, you know; I didn't know[.]
In point of FACT:
Hill offers eyewitness evidence for a Greer Shot.
Hill offers compelling ear witness testimony for a Grassy Knoll shot which is the red herring promoted by Hollywood and disinfo clowns like Groden and Fetzer.
And so we're left with this:
For the third time, Hanson is TELLING THE TRUTH when he states that "Jean Hill saw Greer shoot back." I see no other viable interpretations for his obvious claim.
It's that simple.
Expect more of this sort of truth movement as we move closer to the 50th anniversary of the Dealey Plaza coup d'etat. I am afraid but I know just beneath the surface that Greer killed Kennedy.
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Co-Founder, Deep Politics Forum
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A very honest and welcome reply from another forum
Listen, I was being a dick about this last night. and upon further review you've actually got research to back up most of what you say. I still disagree with you're conclusion.
The thing about the "mist" just isn't true. Many times when people get shot that exact same thing happens. It depends a lot on the caliber being used and the ballistics of that particular bullet, but you claiming it's impossible is false.
Listen, I was being a dick about this last night. and upon further review you've actually got research to back up most of what you say. I still disagree with you're conclusion.
The thing about the "mist" just isn't true. Many times when people get shot that exact same thing happens. It depends a lot on the caliber being used and the ballistics of that particular bullet, but you claiming it's impossible is false.
From the same poster
I actually just watched a show that pretty thoroughly debunked all the usual theories put out there, they interestingly did not even touch yours. Again I need to apologize for being a dick about things earlier. Finding an individual willing to actually research and back-up the claims they're making is a rare thing, so it would be dumb of me to crush any rational discussion just because I think you're wrong.
As for some of your claims, as I pointed out earlier, the one about the "pink mist" I believe to be false. I've seen similar looking spray come out of a deer shot with a hunting rifle. Having never shot a person in the head, I can't say for sure it would happen, maybe some law enforcement/military could shed light on that. But still, I believe your point to be false.
Also, for a pistol to do that type of damage to someones head, it would have to be a fairly large caliber. I'm no expert on ballistics, but I know enough to tell you that a .22LR wouldn't blow the back of a mans head off from a couple feet away. Bigger bullet means louder blast, and an all around more noticeable shot. I still have a hard time believing only a handful of people claimed to notice anything.
Just for fun, if you believe the driver shot him, you must believe in a larger conspiracy as well. Perhaps the driver pulled the trigger, but who do you believe were the guys in the shadows pulling the strings?
I actually just watched a show that pretty thoroughly debunked all the usual theories put out there, they interestingly did not even touch yours. Again I need to apologize for being a dick about things earlier. Finding an individual willing to actually research and back-up the claims they're making is a rare thing, so it would be dumb of me to crush any rational discussion just because I think you're wrong.
As for some of your claims, as I pointed out earlier, the one about the "pink mist" I believe to be false. I've seen similar looking spray come out of a deer shot with a hunting rifle. Having never shot a person in the head, I can't say for sure it would happen, maybe some law enforcement/military could shed light on that. But still, I believe your point to be false.
Also, for a pistol to do that type of damage to someones head, it would have to be a fairly large caliber. I'm no expert on ballistics, but I know enough to tell you that a .22LR wouldn't blow the back of a mans head off from a couple feet away. Bigger bullet means louder blast, and an all around more noticeable shot. I still have a hard time believing only a handful of people claimed to notice anything.
Just for fun, if you believe the driver shot him, you must believe in a larger conspiracy as well. Perhaps the driver pulled the trigger, but who do you believe were the guys in the shadows pulling the strings?
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Debunking the morons, penn and teller
The fatal shot came from the driver's seat and nowhere else. Those two moronic clowns debunked nothing but failed miserably at disinformation. When a man gets shot in face, he goes backward as is exactly what happens in real life.
The fatal shot came from the driver's seat and nowhere else. Those two moronic clowns debunked nothing but failed miserably at disinformation. When a man gets shot in face, he goes backward as is exactly what happens in real life.
Mocking An Idiot Forum Owner Is Fun
charlesdrago wrote:
To the Owners and Administrators of this Forum:
Be advised that Hanson/7forever has placed his forgery of my original work as the lead post on his own disinformation site.
That you willingly provide a platform for Hanson's lies tells me all I need to know of your collective intellect, conscience, and intentions.
Sleep warm. And farewell.
Charles Drago
Co-founder, co-owner
Deep Politics Forum
To the Owners and Administrators of this Forum:
Be advised that Charly Ragu has placed his disinformation of my original work as the lead post on his own disinformation site. www.deeppoliticsforum.com
That you willingly provide a platform for Charly's desperate attempts to cover his ass tells me that you believe in free speech.
Robert Hanson
charlesdrago wrote:
To the Owners and Administrators of this Forum:
Be advised that Hanson/7forever has placed his forgery of my original work as the lead post on his own disinformation site.
That you willingly provide a platform for Hanson's lies tells me all I need to know of your collective intellect, conscience, and intentions.
Sleep warm. And farewell.
Charles Drago
Co-founder, co-owner
Deep Politics Forum
To the Owners and Administrators of this Forum:
Be advised that Charly Ragu has placed his disinformation of my original work as the lead post on his own disinformation site. www.deeppoliticsforum.com
That you willingly provide a platform for Charly's desperate attempts to cover his ass tells me that you believe in free speech.
Robert Hanson
It doesn't get much more real than this
First of all, the Police man survived but only because the shooter's gun jammed. He pistol whipped him and then fled the scene. This nails it for the frontal shot slamming a man's head and body backward.
Watch his head, there's no alteration or faux, forward head movement. He gets shot on the right forehead and goes backward, then slumps leftward, the side he was leaning before the shot.
First of all, the Police man survived but only because the shooter's gun jammed. He pistol whipped him and then fled the scene. This nails it for the frontal shot slamming a man's head and body backward.
Watch his head, there's no alteration or faux, forward head movement. He gets shot on the right forehead and goes backward, then slumps leftward, the side he was leaning before the shot.
Clubonconspiracy Bans Truth About Driver Killing Kennedy
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The zfilm proves both of Greer's hands are off the wheel before he turns the first time and his left hand is off the wheel during the shooting sequence because that is what happens in the nix film. The driver of Kennedy's car, Greer, has his right hand on the wheel when a bullet enters Kennedy's forehead but his left arm and hand are crossing his shoulder in unison with the headshot in the nix film.
You have been banned for proving that you cannot prove anything other than BS.
In fact, I'm going to delete this entire thread.
http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f25/william-cooper-jfk-assassin-unmasked-3442-5.html
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Originally Posted by 7forever
The zfilm proves both of Greer's hands are off the wheel before he turns the first time and his left hand is off the wheel during the shooting sequence because that is what happens in the nix film. The driver of Kennedy's car, Greer, has his right hand on the wheel when a bullet enters Kennedy's forehead but his left arm and hand are crossing his shoulder in unison with the headshot in the nix film.
You have been banned for proving that you cannot prove anything other than BS.
In fact, I'm going to delete this entire thread.
http://www.clubconspiracy.com/forum/f25/william-cooper-jfk-assassin-unmasked-3442-5.html
Fake bloodmist in zapruder film
The mist is fake and no person on this planet can prove that fake red blotch has ever happened except in the altered zapruder film. This idiot gets shot right in the face just like Kennedy did and there is nothing but distortion after impact. NO BLOOD FLOWS AT THE MOMENT OF IMPACT. The zfilm has the mist forming before the shot to hide the shot coming from Greer.
The mist is fake and no person on this planet can prove that fake red blotch has ever happened except in the altered zapruder film. This idiot gets shot right in the face just like Kennedy did and there is nothing but distortion after impact. NO BLOOD FLOWS AT THE MOMENT OF IMPACT. The zfilm has the mist forming before the shot to hide the shot coming from Greer.
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