JFK assassination and the CIA

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I thouht you said it was fake!

I used your tail splash theory to prove the shot entered the right front. Something similar happens in muchmore but it's not red, so I don't know but it doesn't make any difference either way. The bullet entered the right front and exited the right rear. What I did was debunk the right side and place the entrance in the correct location.

The area similar to Zapruder is circled. The clear smoke is above and in front. No break in the rear skull here but there is in Zapruder.
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The exaggerated mist with his head still down and the clear gape on right rear.
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Denialists assist in producing more evidence against Greer

And if they altered the Z-film to show a fake explosion, why not the gaping hole in the back. I mean, as you claim, they went through all the trouble to bleach out the gun and make it look like a reflection on agent's head, painted in a fake explosion to make it look like he was shot from behind but yet, they forgot the gaping hole in the back, seriously!

They could not stop it from showing the moment it happened, apparently, but did their best to fill it in, in subsequent frames. The point of my post is that your tail splash is consistent with the front right entrance at the moment the rear opens up.
The fake explosion on the right side served to illustrate two illusions, both of which were created during alteration. It's supposed to show the right side opening up for the official story and the appearance of the bullet entering the right side, but the point of impact's in the right front first, then it moves to the right side giving both government created theories that were debunked with ease.

The red mist starts in front and moves to the right side. This is the best gif showing the rear skull gape and detach.
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A decent WC supporter asks for evidence against Greer

right on, and thank u for not taking the "easy way out" and instantly bashing someone who doesnt agree with u ALA "Hollywood Nicky." im not saying ur right or im wrong, etc. i didnt read through every page/post in this thread, ergo, im always open to new evidence or peoples theories. i try to always keep an open mind, but all i saw was the video and someone saying "the driver did it." in which i look but dont see what they were trying to establish. anyways, so please give me ur take on what happened with JFK/ur theory so i can look at all the facts/ur thoughts and draw my own conclusion, thx.
-cheers

At least you're not an asshole. Good for you. Here is the basic and irrefutable proof that Greer was the assassin who fired the fatal headshot. Everything I will post would have to be challenged directly in a court or real life debate. No asking stupid questions but challenging and dealing with evidence that is visually factual.

What an opposition would have to do is impossible. They would have to prove that Greer's fake hand popping off the wheel in zframe 304 is real. In other words they would fail because Greer's left hand/arm were crossing his right shoulder in both nix and muchmore during the critical frames right before jfk received the headshot. The first thing that happens is, Greer is passing a large covered object from his right to left hand 4 seconds before he fired back. This visual fact has been ignored and in some cases researchers have outright lied about his hands even leaving the wheel.
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The covered gun is seen perfectly in 258 with his right suited arm distinguishable.
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Greer's left hand cannot be seen returning to the wheel in Zapruder because during the alteration they panned upward to hide when Greer moved his left hand with the gun to near his shoulder, so when he turned the second time to shoot, he just pushed up, over and fired.
Greer's left arm crosses his shoulder in perfect unison with the headshot in nix, proving Zapruder was altered to hide Greer as the real assassin. The same movement happens in muchmore but there's an obstructed view running forward.
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The fake hand is very obvious without even looking at nix because of Bob Harris's brightening of this footage. No evidence exists that his left hand ever returned to the wheel and all researchers did was ignore that he passed the gun, therefore ignoring he shot jfk and supported a very obviously altered Zfilm because they felt it was politically incorrect to prove this shocking and pathetic fact against american government.
NO HAND OR ARM...there is nothing but some grey thing that tried and failed to mimic a hand but there's one huge problem there. THEY DIDN'T ATTACH A FAKE ARM TO THE FAKE HAND.LOL
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If William Greer did not kill Kennedy none of these alterations would have taken place. If Greer didn't shoot jfk his left arm would not be crossing in two other films. If Greer wasn't the assassin he would NOT have passed anything to his left hand. If Greer was innocent it wouldn't look exactly like he shoots jfk with silly FAKE reflections creating that visual at the exact moment jfk's shot in the head. In other words, it is impossible for Greer to be anything but guilty of assassinating John F. Kennedy.

My obsession paid off in the biggest way possible for any truth seekers in this world. Never in this country has there ever been a more epic blunder than those goons in the 60's thinking they could get away with something as silly as using the secret service to kill an American President in an open limousine. Make no mistake that this is not as much me who solved this silly cover-up but the information age.
 
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Nix film shows rear gape after front right impact

I found a gape in the nix film but it comes a little after front right impact.


The rear gape doesn't show up after impact.
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The gape shows up here and very likely the following frame from above.
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During the alteration of Zapruder they compressed the impact and the rear skull gape in one frame and did their best to hide skull detaching in between subsequent frames.
312, no gape.
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313, complete rear gape.
313zoomgape.jpg


This guy here did some work on the rear exit and he confirms my work that puts the rear exit in between frames 312-313, only one frame and says in nix it was was two frames which is consistent with the nix captures.
YouTube - JFK Back of Head- Part III - Visibility of Hind Scalp Tear[/url]
 
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Senator reports seeing Greer shoot back on 11-22-63

Dude, as fully proven in your film links. What you are claiming to be his arm moving back towards Kennedy, is nothing but the sun reflecting off the top of the inside door panel.....It's as clear as day.
What you are trying to present as a hidden gun in the hand in the still of the film, is nothing more than the hand on the steering wheel.
You conspiracy loons have a lot of nerve completely mis-representing what is in visual images.
Seriously, you people need to get a fucking life.
As is fully proven in the film links, his arm is crossing his right shoulder in nix towards Kennedy, you are nothing but a bug I squash with my shoe......it's as clear as day.:eusa_whistle:
What I pointed out is Greer passing the gun from his right to left hand in Zapruder. You are nothing more than a silly little child who keeps lying after getting caught with your little hands in the cookie jar.:eusa_liar:
You government goons have alot of nerve completely lying about what is visual reality.
Seriously, you need to get your eyes and head checked.
.......No eyewitnesses on either side of the car has ever stated they watched Greer shoot the president......There were a lot of people whose eyes were focused on that car.....Not one has stated it.

Amazon.com: Tyler Newcomb's review of Murder from within[/url]

An early report of Greer firing fatal shot.

Posted on Nov. 9, 2010 2:24 AM PST
Maskmaker says:
Tyler, years ago I found a jpg of a newspaper clip from the Chicago sun times, dated Sat., Nov 23, 1963, and not only is Senator Yarborough quoted as saying he smelled gun powder on LBJ's limo nearly all the way to the hospital, he is quoted as saying that the 3rd shot may have been from a Secret Service man returning fire! Can't wait to get my hands on this book after all these years, & hopefully, the DVD! All the evidence points towards Greer taking the final shot.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov. 9, 2010 2:41 AM PST
Tyler Newcomb says:
Yes I have a very faded copy of that. If you still have it I'd like to see if it's better than mine to find a way to put it in the book. Thanks

A Murder Within was self published in 1974.
 
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Right rear gape up close in zapruder

During the alteration of Zapruder they compressed the impact and the rear skull gape into one frame and did their best to hide skull detaching in between subsequent frames.

312, no gape.
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313, complete rear gape.
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At least you're not an asshole. Good for you. Here is the basic and irrefutable proof that Greer was the assassin who fired the fatal headshot. Everything I will post would have to be challenged directly in a court or real life debate. No asking stupid questions but challenging and dealing with evidence that is visually factual.

What an opposition would have to do is impossible. They would have to prove that Greer's fake hand popping off the wheel in zframe 304 is real. In other words they would fail because Greer's left hand/arm were crossing his right shoulder in both nix and muchmore during the critical frames right before jfk received the headshot. The first thing that happens is, Greer is passing a large covered object from his right to left hand 4 seconds before he fired back. This visual fact has been ignored and in some cases researchers have outright lied about his hands even leaving the wheel.
pass-slow_h_GIFSoupcom.gif

The covered gun is seen perfectly in 258 with his right suited arm distinguishable.
WallPaint728.jpg

Greer's left hand cannot be seen returning to the wheel in Zapruder because during the alteration they panned upward to hide when Greer moved his left hand with the gun to near his shoulder, so when he turned the second time to shoot, he just pushed up, over and fired.
Greer's left arm crosses his shoulder in perfect unison with the headshot in nix, proving Zapruder was altered to hide Greer as the real assassin. The same movement happens in muchmore but there's an obstructed view running forward.
normal_h_GIFSoupcom.gif

The fake hand is very obvious without even looking at nix because of Bob Harris's brightening of this footage. No evidence exists that his left hand ever returned to the wheel and all researchers did was ignore that he passed the gun, therefore ignoring he shot jfk and supported a very obviously altered Zfilm because they felt it was politically incorrect to prove this shocking and pathetic fact against american government.
NO HAND OR ARM...there is nothing but some grey thing that tried and failed to mimic a hand but there's one huge problem there. THEY DIDN'T ATTACH A FAKE ARM TO THE FAKE HAND.LOL
fakehandgifslow.gif


If William Greer did not kill Kennedy none of these alterations would have taken place. If Greer didn't shoot jfk his left arm would not be crossing in two other films. If Greer wasn't the assassin he would NOT have passed anything to his left hand. If Greer was innocent it wouldn't look exactly like he shoots jfk with silly FAKE reflections creating that visual at the exact moment jfk's shot in the head. In other words, it is impossible for Greer to be anything but guilty of assassinating John F. Kennedy.

My obsession paid off in the biggest way possible for any truth seekers in this world. Never in this country has there ever been a more epic blunder than those goons in the 60's thinking they could get away with something as silly as using the secret service to kill an American President in an open limousine. Make no mistake that this is not as much me who solved this silly cover-up but the information age.
All they would have to do, is show that JFK's wound was a bursting (Explosion) wound and only can be created by a high velocity rifle, delivering a supersonic bullet (2000 fps or above) and in 1963 there was no hand gun (Hand guns are subsonic) made that could deliver a supersonic bullet and create a bursting head wound.. This info is taken from Forensic Medicine (Terminal Ballistics).
 
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Amazon.com: Tyler Newcomb's review of Murder from within[/url]

An early report of Greer firing fatal shot.

Posted on Nov. 9, 2010 2:24 AM PST
Maskmaker says:
Tyler, years ago I found a jpg of a newspaper clip from the Chicago sun times, dated Sat., Nov 23, 1963, and not only is Senator Yarborough quoted as saying he smelled gun powder on LBJ's limo nearly all the way to the hospital, he is quoted as saying that the 3rd shot may have been from a Secret Service man returning fire! Can't wait to get my hands on this book after all these years, & hopefully, the DVD! All the evidence points towards Greer taking the final shot.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov. 9, 2010 2:41 AM PST
Tyler Newcomb says:
Yes I have a very faded copy of that. If you still have it I'd like to see if it's better than mine to find a way to put it in the book. Thanks

A Murder Within was self published in 1974.
http://jfkassassinationfiles.com/senator_yarborough_terms Here is a copy of the article in the Chicago Sun times. Senator Yarborough stated, the shots sounded like a deer rifle and the shots came from his right rear. There is nothing in this article that remotely indicates that Greer made the fatal shot. Just more disinformation!
 
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The rear gape doesn't show up after impact.
nixnohole.jpg

The gape shows up here and very likely the following frame from above.
nixhole.jpg


During the alteration of Zapruder they compressed the impact and the rear skull gape in one frame and did their best to hide skull detaching in between subsequent frames.
312, no gape.
312zoom.jpg

313, complete rear gape.
313zoomgape.jpg


This guy here did some work on the rear exit and he confirms my work that puts the rear exit in between frames 312-313, only one frame and says in nix it was was two frames which is consistent with the nix captures.
YouTube - JFK Back of Head- Part III - Visibility of Hind Scalp Tear[/url]
You claim the Nix film is unaltered, if there is this Gaping hole in the back, why does'nt it show matter being ejected.
 
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Right Rear Skull Gape And Detachment

You can't have a gaping hole without something being ejected!

Connally described being sprayed with a clear liquid which is something more logical than some fake red blotch. It's also not likely that fluid would show up in these old films but the back of his head popping off would, especially if it opens up just the way it does in Zapruder. These are in sequential order with the first being just before 313, showing the perfect gape up close. Jfk's skull did what it logically had to do with the right rear exit wound he suffered. The back of his head was blown off just like forty witnesses saw with their own eyes, including Clint Hill, Jackie, and Jfk's killer, Bill Greer.

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Between 313-314
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THE WHOLE REAR POPS OFF AFTER IMPACT.
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Steamboy plays with fire and gets burnt every time

Why not, the clear smoke showed up.

You finally admit to seeing the clear smoke that's visible at the point of entrance in all three jfk films. You are a perfect example of why soupnazi's denial of facts is the only way to troll this obvious truth.

The smoke is above and in front of the circled area which is similar to the fake red in Zapruder but it's not the exaggerated red.
muchmoreheadshot.jpg

Clear smoke above fake red and perfect rear gape.
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Senator Yardborough saw driver fire fatal shot on November 22, 1963

Amazon.com: Tyler Newcomb's review of Murder from within[/url]
Posted on Nov. 9, 2010 2:24 AM PST
Maskmaker says:

Tyler, years ago I found a jpg of a newspaper clip from the Chicago sun times, dated Sat., Nov 23, 1963, and not only is Senator Yarborough quoted as saying he smelled gun powder on LBJ's limo nearly all the way to the hospital, he is quoted as saying that the 3rd shot may have been from a Secret Service man returning fire! Can't wait to get my hands on this book after all these years, & hopefully, the DVD! All the evidence points towards Greer taking the final shot.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov. 9, 2010 2:41 AM PST
Tyler Newcomb says:
Yes I have a very faded copy of that. If you still have it I'd like to see if it's better than mine to find a way to put it in the book. Thanks
A Murder Within was self published in 1974.

Look on the right side, under 'beats fists against car'. It's the second sentence.

Senatorseesdrivershootjfk.jpg
 
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Jean Hill saw Greer shoot Kennedy

Testimony Of Mrs. Jean Lollis Hill

Mr. SPECTER - What occurred at the time of the fourth shot which you believe you heard?
Mrs. HILL - Well, at that time, of course, there was a pause and I took the other shots---about that time Mary grabbed me and was yelling and I had looked away from what was going on here and I thought, because I guess from the TV and movies, that it was Secret Service agents shooting back. To me, if somebody shoots at somebody they always shoot back and so I just thought that that's what it was and I thought, well, they are getting him and shooting back, you know; I didn't know.
Mr. SPECTER - Where was the President's car at the time you thought you heard the fourth shot?
Mrs. HILL - The motorcade came to almost a halt at the time the shots rang out, and I would say it was just approximately, if not---it couldn't have been in the same position, I'm sure it wasn't, but just a very, very short distance from where it had been. It was just almost stunned.
Mr. SPECTER - And how about the time of the fifth shot, where do you think the President's car was?
Mrs. HILL - That was during those shots, I think it wasn't any further than a few feet---further down.
Mr. SPECTER - Which shots, now---you mean the fourth, and perhaps the fifth and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL - Yes.
Mr. SPECTER - You thought that perhaps the second burst of shots you heard were being directed toward him by the Secret Service?

Mrs. HILL - I Just thought, "Oh, goodness, the Secret Service is shooting back."

Mr. SPECTER - What was your impression as to the source of the second group of shots which you have described as the fourth, perhaps the fifth, and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL - Well, nothing, except that I thought that they were fired by someone else.
Mr. SPECTER - And did you have any idea where they were coming from?
Mrs. HILL - No; as I said, I thought they were coming from the general direction of that knoll.
Mr. SPECTER - Well, did you think that the Secret Service was firing them from that knoll?
Mrs. HILL - I said I didn't know-I really don't.
Mr. SPECTER - You just had the general impression that shots were coming from the knoll?
Mrs. HILL - Yes.
Mr. SPECTER - And you had the general impression that the Secret Service was firing the second group of shots at the man who fired the first group of shots?
Mrs. HILL - That's right
.
Mr. SPECTER - But you had no specific impression as to the source of those shots?
Mrs. HILL - No.

Jean Hill was looking at the limo when Greer shot Jfk.
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Amazon.com: Tyler Newcomb's review of Murder from within[/url]
Posted on Nov. 9, 2010 2:24 AM PST
Maskmaker says:

Tyler, years ago I found a jpg of a newspaper clip from the Chicago sun times, dated Sat., Nov 23, 1963, and not only is Senator Yarborough quoted as saying he smelled gun powder on LBJ's limo nearly all the way to the hospital, he is quoted as saying that the 3rd shot may have been from a Secret Service man returning fire! Can't wait to get my hands on this book after all these years, & hopefully, the DVD! All the evidence points towards Greer taking the final shot.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov. 9, 2010 2:41 AM PST
Tyler Newcomb says:
Yes I have a very faded copy of that. If you still have it I'd like to see if it's better than mine to find a way to put it in the book. Thanks
A Murder Within was self published in 1974.

Look on the right side, under 'beats fists against car'. It's the second sentence.

Senatorseesdrivershootjfk.jpg
And that proves What!
 
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You finally admit to seeing the clear smoke that's visible at the point of entrance in all three jfk films. You are a perfect example of why soupnazi's denial of facts is the only way to troll this obvious truth.

The smoke is above and in front of the circled area which is similar to the fake red in Zapruder but it's not the exaggerated red.
muchmoreheadshot.jpg

Clear smoke above fake red and perfect rear gape.
801gape.jpg
No, not so! Only you see clear smoke, its brain matter.
 
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Better view of rear gape with dislodged scalp comparison

Dr. Humes described the mess at the top as dislodged scalp. He also down played the entrance over the right eye as a contusion. Some theorists said jfk went somewhere in between Parkland and Bethesda. If so, some type of debridement may have taken place to cover the wound. This area is still visible and metal fragments were recovered behind the right eye and showed up in x-rays.

The right rear is clearly missing here and many witnesses saw jfk the way he lies here. He didn't have to be on his stomach because the hole was on the right rear. Notice the small flap on the right side compared to that fake mess in Zapruder.
jfkautopsyrightside.jpg

A better view of rear gape and compare the dislodged scalp. It's similar.
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You finally admit to seeing the clear smoke that's visible at the point of entrance in all three jfk films. You are a perfect example of why soupnazi's denial of facts is the only way to troll this obvious truth.

The smoke is above and in front of the circled area which is similar to the fake red in Zapruder but it's not the exaggerated red.
muchmoreheadshot.jpg

Clear smoke above fake red and perfect rear gape.
801gape.jpg
I would never admit to such a ridiculous claim, whatever clear smoke is!
 
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Amazon.com: Tyler Newcomb's review of Murder from within[/url]
Posted on Nov. 9, 2010 2:24 AM PST
Maskmaker says:

Tyler, years ago I found a jpg of a newspaper clip from the Chicago sun times, dated Sat., Nov 23, 1963, and not only is Senator Yarborough quoted as saying he smelled gun powder on LBJ's limo nearly all the way to the hospital, he is quoted as saying that the 3rd shot may have been from a Secret Service man returning fire! Can't wait to get my hands on this book after all these years, & hopefully, the DVD! All the evidence points towards Greer taking the final shot.

In reply to an earlier post on Nov. 9, 2010 2:41 AM PST
Tyler Newcomb says:
Yes I have a very faded copy of that. If you still have it I'd like to see if it's better than mine to find a way to put it in the book. Thanks
A Murder Within was self published in 1974.

Look on the right side, under 'beats fists against car'. It's the second sentence.

Senatorseesdrivershootjfk.jpg
No were does it say Senator Yarborough saw the driver shoot JFK.
 
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Dr. Humes described the mess at the top as dislodged scalp. He also down played the entrance over the right eye as a contusion. Some theorists said jfk went somewhere in between Parkland and Bethesda. If so, some type of debridement may have taken place to cover the wound. This area is still visible and metal fragments were recovered behind the right eye and showed up in x-rays.

The right rear is clearly missing here and many witnesses saw jfk the way he lies here. He didn't have to be on his stomach because the hole was on the right rear. Notice the small flap on the right side compared to that fake mess in Zapruder.
jfkautopsyrightside.jpg

A better view of rear gape and compare the dislodged scalp. It's similar.
600gape.jpg

WallPaint489.jpg
No matter being ejected out that imaginary gaping rear wound, in any film.
 
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