A great American because he killed the patsy who got blamed for JFK's assassination?
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A great American because he killed the patsy who got blamed for JFK's assassination?
Here's an email exchange between Tyler Newcomb and myself in regards to an audio interview of Jean Hill acquired by them around 1971. Tyler is working to get some of this vintage audio online. I will keep you abreast of Tyler's progress unless he starts posting himself. Below is an excerpt from Tyler's foreword in Murder from Within which was republished in 2011. Jean Hill confirms more directly in this interview that there was a shot in the front of Jfk's limo and that is just icing on top of icing at this point.
The exact quote on the tape was "Yes" when asked…"But you do remember at least one shot from the front of the car"
On Aug 4, 2013, at 1:17 PM, "." <.com> wrote:
Creepy for sure, including Roy! What about that transcript of Jean Hill? Even just some of it. Are these from your interviews? Are they accurate?
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/drivergreershotjfk.shtml
1. Mary Moorman - school teacher standing next to Jean Hill. She said she saw Greer shooting back but thought he was shooting back at the assassin. SOURCE: Warren Commission and taped interview by Fred Newcomb.
2. Jean Hill - Jean Hill saw what happened too, but when she tried to bring up the subject of a gun being fired in the car, Senator Arlen Spector (a 33rd degree Mason) would change the subject or say "it's time for a cup of coffee
http://www.amazon.com/Murder-Within-...er+from+within
During this time Dad (FRED NEWCOMB) and his two associates Gil Toff and Roy Dennis telephonically interviewed nearly 50 witnesses comprising 30 hours of tape. Many of these interviews became the basis for the book. One cannot listen to some of the Dallas Police officers interviewed (who smelled “gunpowder right there in the street” and heard shots “right next to me”) and not come away convinced there really was gunfire from within the motorcade. One cannot listen to 2 police officers stationed at Parkland Hospital who were standing next to the Limo and who each saw a bullet hole in the windshield and not become convinced of evidence tampering by the Secret Service.
Jean Hill saw Greer shoot Kennedy
She was just speculating that Greer was shooting back at whomever was shooting at the President. This was an easy way of saying it without exactly saying it. But in those moments she may have thought it because it would be shocking to see your President killed intentionally by the men who took an oath to protect him from assassination attempts. Mrs. Hill clearly turned to the left as the limo passed by in response to the shots and Greer suddenly braking during his second turn to execute the coup de grâce.
Testimony Of Mrs. Jean Lollis Hill
Mr. SPECTER - What occurred at the time of the fourth shot which you believe you heard?
Mrs. HILL - Well, at that time, of course, there was a pause and I took the other shots---about that time Mary grabbed me and was yelling and I had looked away from what was going on here and I thought, because I guess from the TV and movies, that it was Secret Service agents shooting back. To me, if somebody shoots at somebody they always shoot back and so I just thought that that's what it was and I thought, well, they are getting him and shooting back, you know; I didn't know.
Mr. SPECTER - Where was the President's car at the time you thought you heard the fourth shot?
Mrs. HILL - The motorcade came to almost a halt at the time the shots rang out, and I would say it was just approximately, if not---it couldn't have been in the same position, I'm sure it wasn't, but just a very, very short distance from where it had been. It was just almost stunned.
Mr. SPECTER - And how about the time of the fifth shot, where do you think the President's car was?
Mrs. HILL - That was during those shots, I think it wasn't any further than a few feet---further down.
Mr. SPECTER - Which shots, now---you mean the fourth, and perhaps the fifth and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL - Yes.
Mr. SPECTER - You thought that perhaps the second burst of shots you heard were being directed toward him by the Secret Service?
Mrs. HILL - I Just thought, "Oh, goodness, the Secret Service is shooting back."
Mr. SPECTER - What was your impression as to the source of the second group of shots which you have described as the fourth, perhaps the fifth, and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL - Well, nothing, except that I thought that they were fired by someone else.
Mr. SPECTER - And did you have any idea where they were coming from?
Mrs. HILL - No; as I said, I thought they were coming from the general direction of that knoll.
Mr. SPECTER - Well, did you think that the Secret Service was firing them from that knoll?
Mrs. HILL - I said I didn't know-I really don't.
Mr. SPECTER - You just had the general impression that shots were coming from the knoll?
Mrs. HILL - Yes.
Mr. SPECTER - And you had the general impression that the Secret Service was firing the second group of shots at the man who fired the first group of shots?
Mrs. HILL - That's right.
Mr. SPECTER - But you had no specific impression as to the source of those shots?
Mrs. HILL - No.
Jean Hill was looking at the limo when Greer shot Jfk. FRAME 310.
The exact quote on the tape was "Yes" when asked…"But you do remember at least one shot from the front of the car"
On Aug 4, 2013, at 1:17 PM, "." <.com> wrote:
Creepy for sure, including Roy! What about that transcript of Jean Hill? Even just some of it. Are these from your interviews? Are they accurate?
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/drivergreershotjfk.shtml
1. Mary Moorman - school teacher standing next to Jean Hill. She said she saw Greer shooting back but thought he was shooting back at the assassin. SOURCE: Warren Commission and taped interview by Fred Newcomb.
2. Jean Hill - Jean Hill saw what happened too, but when she tried to bring up the subject of a gun being fired in the car, Senator Arlen Spector (a 33rd degree Mason) would change the subject or say "it's time for a cup of coffee
http://www.amazon.com/Murder-Within-...er+from+within
During this time Dad (FRED NEWCOMB) and his two associates Gil Toff and Roy Dennis telephonically interviewed nearly 50 witnesses comprising 30 hours of tape. Many of these interviews became the basis for the book. One cannot listen to some of the Dallas Police officers interviewed (who smelled “gunpowder right there in the street” and heard shots “right next to me”) and not come away convinced there really was gunfire from within the motorcade. One cannot listen to 2 police officers stationed at Parkland Hospital who were standing next to the Limo and who each saw a bullet hole in the windshield and not become convinced of evidence tampering by the Secret Service.
Jean Hill saw Greer shoot Kennedy
She was just speculating that Greer was shooting back at whomever was shooting at the President. This was an easy way of saying it without exactly saying it. But in those moments she may have thought it because it would be shocking to see your President killed intentionally by the men who took an oath to protect him from assassination attempts. Mrs. Hill clearly turned to the left as the limo passed by in response to the shots and Greer suddenly braking during his second turn to execute the coup de grâce.
Testimony Of Mrs. Jean Lollis Hill
Mr. SPECTER - What occurred at the time of the fourth shot which you believe you heard?
Mrs. HILL - Well, at that time, of course, there was a pause and I took the other shots---about that time Mary grabbed me and was yelling and I had looked away from what was going on here and I thought, because I guess from the TV and movies, that it was Secret Service agents shooting back. To me, if somebody shoots at somebody they always shoot back and so I just thought that that's what it was and I thought, well, they are getting him and shooting back, you know; I didn't know.
Mr. SPECTER - Where was the President's car at the time you thought you heard the fourth shot?
Mrs. HILL - The motorcade came to almost a halt at the time the shots rang out, and I would say it was just approximately, if not---it couldn't have been in the same position, I'm sure it wasn't, but just a very, very short distance from where it had been. It was just almost stunned.
Mr. SPECTER - And how about the time of the fifth shot, where do you think the President's car was?
Mrs. HILL - That was during those shots, I think it wasn't any further than a few feet---further down.
Mr. SPECTER - Which shots, now---you mean the fourth, and perhaps the fifth and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL - Yes.
Mr. SPECTER - You thought that perhaps the second burst of shots you heard were being directed toward him by the Secret Service?
Mrs. HILL - I Just thought, "Oh, goodness, the Secret Service is shooting back."
Mr. SPECTER - What was your impression as to the source of the second group of shots which you have described as the fourth, perhaps the fifth, and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL - Well, nothing, except that I thought that they were fired by someone else.
Mr. SPECTER - And did you have any idea where they were coming from?
Mrs. HILL - No; as I said, I thought they were coming from the general direction of that knoll.
Mr. SPECTER - Well, did you think that the Secret Service was firing them from that knoll?
Mrs. HILL - I said I didn't know-I really don't.
Mr. SPECTER - You just had the general impression that shots were coming from the knoll?
Mrs. HILL - Yes.
Mr. SPECTER - And you had the general impression that the Secret Service was firing the second group of shots at the man who fired the first group of shots?
Mrs. HILL - That's right.
Mr. SPECTER - But you had no specific impression as to the source of those shots?
Mrs. HILL - No.
Jean Hill was looking at the limo when Greer shot Jfk. FRAME 310.
This is the Nix film which shows all kinds of good stuff. The ejecta on the rear is very clear here along with the break in the skull several frames after impact. The hair flares upward which was reported by some eyewitnesses. Not surprisingly, the red blob was not added to this film.
These are frames 312-313 which show the glaring difference between the rear without any obstruction and the blasted hole. The hole didn't start forming until after 312. The gif file is the best one I found and depicts the rear gaping open twice in 1/18 of a second. In a real debate, the Oswald looneys could not ignore the hole on the rear because that's where they say it entered.
John F. Kennedy Assassination Homepage :: Warren Commission :: Hearings :: Volume II :: Page 128
There are few things more ironic than jfk's real assassin describing his own shot and ultimately debunking Oswald and the grassy snow job. At the end of Greer's testimony here, he takes his finger over his right forehead and drags it along his right temple to his right rear. Note how Greer doesn't turn around and speed off until he's sure his shot connected.
Greer confirmed his own shot with the help of Arlen Specter. Over the right eye out the right rear. It's that simple. Greer already pointed over his right eye, therefore, upper right side refers to that specific location.
Mr. Specter.
Did you just mention, Mr. Greer, a hole in the President's head in addition to the large area of the skull which was shot away?
Mr. Greer.
No. I had just seen that, you know, the head was damaged in all this part of it but I believe looking at the X-rays, I looked at the X-rays when they were taken in the autopsy room, and the person who does that type work showed us the trace of it because there would be little specks of lead where the bullet had come from here and it came to the--they showed where it didn't come on through. It came to a sinus cavity or something they said, over the eye.
Mr. Specter.
Indicating the right eye. (Greer pointed over his right eye)
Mr. Greer.
I may be wrong.
Mr. Specter.
You don't know which eye?
Mr. Greer.
I don't know which eye, I may be wrong. But they showed us the trace of it coming through but there were very little small specks on the X-rays that these professionals knew what course that the bullet had taken, the lead.
Mr. Specter.
Would you describe in very general terms what injury you observed as to the President's head during the course of the autopsy?
Mr. Greer.
I would--to the best of my recollection it was in this part of the head right here.
Mr. Specter.
Upper right?
Mr. Greer.
Upper right side.
Mr. Specter.
Upper right side, going toward the rear. And what was the condition of the skull at that point?
Mr. Greer.
The skull was completely--this part was completely gone.
Mr. Specter. Now, aside from that opening which you have described and you have indicated a circle with a diameter of approximately 5 inches, would you say that is about what you have indicated there?
Mr. Greer. Approximately I would say 5 inches; yes.
Mr. Specter. Did you observe any other opening or hole of any sort in the head itself?
Mr. Greer. No, sir; I didn't. No other one.
Mr. Specter. Specifically did you observe a hole which would be below the large area of skull which was absent?
Mr. Greer. No, sir; I didn't.
Mr. Specter. Did you have occasion to look in the back of the head immediately below where the skull was missing?
Mr. Greer. No; I can't remember even examining the head that close at that time.
http://www.jfk-assassination.de/warr...l2/page124.php
Mr. Specter. What did you observe with respect to President Kennedy's condition on arrival at the Parkland Hospital?
Mr. Greer. To the best of my knowledge he was laying, it seemed across Mrs. Kennedy, looked like laying across her lap or in front of her, I am not too sure which, I opened the doors--the doors were opened before I got to it, someone else had opened the doors and they were trying to get Connally out, and Mrs. Connally out of the seats so they could get to the President.
Mr. Specter. What did you observe about the President with respect to his wounds?
Mr. Greer. His head was all shot, this whole part was all a matter of blood like he had been hit.
Mr. Specter. Indicating the top and right rear side of the head?
Mr. Greer. Yes, sir; it looked like that was all blown off.
Mr. Specter.Yes.
Mr. Greer. I run around the front of the car and got hold of a stretcher or thing and I got hold of it to keep it steady while they lifted the President's body onto it and then I helped pull the front end of it into the emergency room.
Upper right side, going toward the rear fired by Greer.
That is dislodged scalp on the top back of his head. Humes said so, but I have it on my other computer. He downplays the wound over the right eye because that's where the bullet really entered. Big hole on rear, small hole over right eye. It's that simple. "HIS FACE WAS NORMAL", except for the entrance over the right eye.
There are few things more ironic than jfk's real assassin describing his own shot and ultimately debunking Oswald and the grassy snow job. At the end of Greer's testimony here, he takes his finger over his right forehead and drags it along his right temple to his right rear. Note how Greer doesn't turn around and speed off until he's sure his shot connected.
Greer confirmed his own shot with the help of Arlen Specter. Over the right eye out the right rear. It's that simple. Greer already pointed over his right eye, therefore, upper right side refers to that specific location.
Mr. Specter.
Did you just mention, Mr. Greer, a hole in the President's head in addition to the large area of the skull which was shot away?
Mr. Greer.
No. I had just seen that, you know, the head was damaged in all this part of it but I believe looking at the X-rays, I looked at the X-rays when they were taken in the autopsy room, and the person who does that type work showed us the trace of it because there would be little specks of lead where the bullet had come from here and it came to the--they showed where it didn't come on through. It came to a sinus cavity or something they said, over the eye.
Mr. Specter.
Indicating the right eye. (Greer pointed over his right eye)
Mr. Greer.
I may be wrong.
Mr. Specter.
You don't know which eye?
Mr. Greer.
I don't know which eye, I may be wrong. But they showed us the trace of it coming through but there were very little small specks on the X-rays that these professionals knew what course that the bullet had taken, the lead.
Mr. Specter.
Would you describe in very general terms what injury you observed as to the President's head during the course of the autopsy?
Mr. Greer.
I would--to the best of my recollection it was in this part of the head right here.
Mr. Specter.
Upper right?
Mr. Greer.
Upper right side.
Mr. Specter.
Upper right side, going toward the rear. And what was the condition of the skull at that point?
Mr. Greer.
The skull was completely--this part was completely gone.
Mr. Specter. Now, aside from that opening which you have described and you have indicated a circle with a diameter of approximately 5 inches, would you say that is about what you have indicated there?
Mr. Greer. Approximately I would say 5 inches; yes.
Mr. Specter. Did you observe any other opening or hole of any sort in the head itself?
Mr. Greer. No, sir; I didn't. No other one.
Mr. Specter. Specifically did you observe a hole which would be below the large area of skull which was absent?
Mr. Greer. No, sir; I didn't.
Mr. Specter. Did you have occasion to look in the back of the head immediately below where the skull was missing?
Mr. Greer. No; I can't remember even examining the head that close at that time.
http://www.jfk-assassination.de/warr...l2/page124.php
Mr. Specter. What did you observe with respect to President Kennedy's condition on arrival at the Parkland Hospital?
Mr. Greer. To the best of my knowledge he was laying, it seemed across Mrs. Kennedy, looked like laying across her lap or in front of her, I am not too sure which, I opened the doors--the doors were opened before I got to it, someone else had opened the doors and they were trying to get Connally out, and Mrs. Connally out of the seats so they could get to the President.
Mr. Specter. What did you observe about the President with respect to his wounds?
Mr. Greer. His head was all shot, this whole part was all a matter of blood like he had been hit.
Mr. Specter. Indicating the top and right rear side of the head?
Mr. Greer. Yes, sir; it looked like that was all blown off.
Mr. Specter.Yes.
Mr. Greer. I run around the front of the car and got hold of a stretcher or thing and I got hold of it to keep it steady while they lifted the President's body onto it and then I helped pull the front end of it into the emergency room.
Upper right side, going toward the rear fired by Greer.
That is dislodged scalp on the top back of his head. Humes said so, but I have it on my other computer. He downplays the wound over the right eye because that's where the bullet really entered. Big hole on rear, small hole over right eye. It's that simple. "HIS FACE WAS NORMAL", except for the entrance over the right eye.
have you seen this:
Bill Hicks on the JFK Assassination - from Revelations - YouTube
&
Bill Hicks on Presidential Agendas - YouTube
heavy stuff .... no?
Would it kill you to simply relink to your past posts instead of repeating posts one after the other? I've observed you posting the same stuff for over 3 straight years and it's incredibly gross having to see the aftermath of a massive gunshot wound to the head over and over and over....
I did NOT write this. From another poster/forum, a few years ago.
Funny thing about conspiracies, and theories, is that often times the other parts of the "plan" are important parts, but made to DISTRACT from a very simple truth!
This is how it has always been, and this is the most important aspect of it all. If you confront people with the "simple" evidence (which is the driver landed fatal blow) people will reject it having been so used to such a complex conspiracy theory that no one will ever figure out!
It is Genius when you think about it, formulate a massive plan to take out JFK who was a threat to national security of the secret government. But the one thing they were counting on was the man hiding in plain sight, with the means to finish him directly. While everyone around the grassy knoll, the buildings, and even people within the car were panicking, they had no idea what was going on, greer took the final shot. It was the perfect distraction.
edit the film that proves it.
Funny thing about conspiracies, and theories, is that often times the other parts of the "plan" are important parts, but made to DISTRACT from a very simple truth!
This is how it has always been, and this is the most important aspect of it all. If you confront people with the "simple" evidence (which is the driver landed fatal blow) people will reject it having been so used to such a complex conspiracy theory that no one will ever figure out!
It is Genius when you think about it, formulate a massive plan to take out JFK who was a threat to national security of the secret government. But the one thing they were counting on was the man hiding in plain sight, with the means to finish him directly. While everyone around the grassy knoll, the buildings, and even people within the car were panicking, they had no idea what was going on, greer took the final shot. It was the perfect distraction.
edit the film that proves it.
Am I the only one who thinks its funny that the gun the driver is holding (allegedly) is the only thing that can be seen clearly? I have trouble even telling which way the driver's head is facing most of the time but boy howdy that gun is visible, isn't it? It's huge, too, is that a regular gun or a clown gun?
If the answers are so obvious then I question how necessary it is for you to saturate threads with the same content at the extremes that you do so not only here, but at multiple forums. Few people need to go to the extremes of ridicule to point out that you're evidence is faulty... please... I see enough of those psycho analysis bursts in every other conspiracy thread I encounter. :\
I've pointed out to you before that you're relying on extremely poor quality animations, and some of your assumptions rely of illusory artifacts directly attributable to the poor quality of your gifs. Sadly, I'm not so dedicated to the "cause" that I'm going to wast days out of my life span trying to point it out to individuals who clearly aren't going to figure that out. You definitely didn't figure it out when I pointed this out some 2 years ago somewhere in this thread...
The smell of Greer's shot was in the air. According to Gary Mack the wind was blowing back east at 15 mph. That explains the Senators honest account. Not to mention the secret service shooting back. I wonder what agent could have been shooting back in the direction of jfk?
Look under 'Beats Fists Against Car'. "The third shot he heard might have been a Secret Service man returning the fire", he said. "The Senator was two or three cars behind Jfk's, with LBJ. Look above 'Could Smell Gunpowder'; He smelled gunpowder all the way to Parkland Hospital.
Look under 'Beats Fists Against Car'. "The third shot he heard might have been a Secret Service man returning the fire", he said. "The Senator was two or three cars behind Jfk's, with LBJ. Look above 'Could Smell Gunpowder'; He smelled gunpowder all the way to Parkland Hospital.
Dr. Grossman clearly states that the hole was too large to be an entrance wound, because the large irregular hole was a wound of exit. The back of the head was lifted up to demonstrate the large wound on the right rear. Frame 313 and the autopsy report jibe nicely to produce a factual basis for the rear blow-out witnessed by forty or so folks, including Jackie and the driver. Instead of completely lying, Dr. Humes simply understated the missing skull in the Occipital region where the hole was most dominant.
Lastly, Dr. Grossman describes perfectly the confusion about whether a hole exited in the Parietal region: "It was clear to me that the right parietal bone had been lifted up by a bullet which had exited." There was no hole on the top of the head. It was on the right rear and likely the top back/Parietal, not the very top. His hair and skull is clearly lifted up in the second skull image, thereby corroborating Grossman's accurate view of the wounds.
10) Dr. Charles Rufus Baxter, Attending Surgeon:
WR 523 / 17 H 8 / CE392---handwritten report dated 11/22/63----" the
right temporal and occipital bones were missing and the brain was lying
on the table, with [extensive?] maceration and contusion ";
V. Palamara: 'Medical Reference' book (excerpt)
http://www.jfklancer.com/autopsyrpt.html
Missile Wounds
1. There is a large irregular defect of the scalp and skull on the right
involving chiefly the parietal bone but extending somewhat into the
temporal and occipital regions. In this region there is an actual
absence of scalp and bone producing a defect which measures
approximately 13 cm. in greatest diameter.
11) Dr. Robert G. Grossman, Resident Neurosurgeon:
a) "High Treason", pages 30, 36, 51, 53, 459 ("The Boston Globe", June
21, 1981-notes placed in JFK Library [see also "Killing Kennedy", pp.
303-304, "Between The Signal and the Noise" by Roger Bruce Feinman
(1993) and Groden's "TKOAP", p. 181])---saw two separate head wounds: a
large defect in the parietal area above the right ear, as well as "a
large [albeit smaller than the first wound described], separate wound,
located squarely in the occiput."; " described a large hole squarely in
the occiput, far too large for a bullet entry wound "; Grossman: "It was
clear to me that the right parietal bone had been lifted up by a bullet
which had exited."; noticed the skin flap near the right temple; Dr.
Clark picked up the back of the head to demonstrate the wound;
b) 6 H 81 (Salyer)---confirms Grossman's presence in Trauma Room One;
Lastly, Dr. Grossman describes perfectly the confusion about whether a hole exited in the Parietal region: "It was clear to me that the right parietal bone had been lifted up by a bullet which had exited." There was no hole on the top of the head. It was on the right rear and likely the top back/Parietal, not the very top. His hair and skull is clearly lifted up in the second skull image, thereby corroborating Grossman's accurate view of the wounds.
10) Dr. Charles Rufus Baxter, Attending Surgeon:
WR 523 / 17 H 8 / CE392---handwritten report dated 11/22/63----" the
right temporal and occipital bones were missing and the brain was lying
on the table, with [extensive?] maceration and contusion ";
V. Palamara: 'Medical Reference' book (excerpt)
http://www.jfklancer.com/autopsyrpt.html
Missile Wounds
1. There is a large irregular defect of the scalp and skull on the right
involving chiefly the parietal bone but extending somewhat into the
temporal and occipital regions. In this region there is an actual
absence of scalp and bone producing a defect which measures
approximately 13 cm. in greatest diameter.
11) Dr. Robert G. Grossman, Resident Neurosurgeon:
a) "High Treason", pages 30, 36, 51, 53, 459 ("The Boston Globe", June
21, 1981-notes placed in JFK Library [see also "Killing Kennedy", pp.
303-304, "Between The Signal and the Noise" by Roger Bruce Feinman
(1993) and Groden's "TKOAP", p. 181])---saw two separate head wounds: a
large defect in the parietal area above the right ear, as well as "a
large [albeit smaller than the first wound described], separate wound,
located squarely in the occiput."; " described a large hole squarely in
the occiput, far too large for a bullet entry wound "; Grossman: "It was
clear to me that the right parietal bone had been lifted up by a bullet
which had exited."; noticed the skin flap near the right temple; Dr.
Clark picked up the back of the head to demonstrate the wound;
b) 6 H 81 (Salyer)---confirms Grossman's presence in Trauma Room One;
The smoke is apparently indicative of the bullet's entry point. As we can clearly see with this sniper shot to the left cheek. Notice the brain matter/fluid ejecting out the rear. This is the Orville Nix film, the same film that shows Greer's real left arm extending back toward jfk.
The past is dead & gone - get over it already!
Who else could Connally have seen that shot jfk? He was looking at Greer when the shot was fired.
Connally said he saw the fatal shot and quickly corrected himself but his reaction when looking at Greer proves he slipped up. Watch him hit the floor in horror once he realized Greer shot JFK. The Governor, logically starting turning toward the driver because he was braking before he shot the President.
Obviously, at least the major wound that I took in the shoulder through the chest couldn't have been anything but the second shot. Obviously, it couldn't have been the third, because when the third shot was fired I was in a reclining position, and heard it, saw it and the effects of it, rather--I didn't see it, I saw the effects of it--so it obviously could not have been the third, and couldn't have been the first, in my judgment.
So I merely doubled up, and then turned to my right again and began to--I just sat there, and Mrs. Connally pulled me over to her lap. She was sitting, of course, on the jump seat, so I reclined with my head in her lap, conscious all the time, and with my eyes open; and then, of course, the third shot sounded, and I heard the shot very clearly. I heard it hit him. I heard the shot hit something, and I assumed again--it never entered my mind that it ever hit anybody but the President. I heard it hit. It was a very loud noise, just that audible, very clear.
GREER FIRED RIGHT OVER CONNALLY'S HEAD and when he realized Greer fired it, he hit the floor, terrified. WATCH THE GOVERNOR.
It was written about 40 years ago. http://murderfromwithin.com/
Amazon.com: murder from within: Books
Murder from Within Foreword by Tyler Newcomb
“That which is most simple and obvious is the hardest to fathom” E.A.
Poe
How It All Began
I remember it like it was yesterday. It was early summer in 1966 and I was
sitting at the breakfast table with my father, Fred T. Newcomb while he was
reading a front page article in the L.A. Times written by Robert J. Donovan.
It was a review of a new book written by Edward J. Epstein entitled Inquest.
Suddenly, Dad got up and started pacing the kitchen floor. “My God,
someone else may have shot Kennedy” were his words. That was how it all
began.
For the next 8 years nearly all of his spare time and money was devoted to
the subject. With the partnership of Perry Adams it eventually culminated in
the writing of Murder From Within in 1974.
Dad and Perry wrote Murder From Within after years of hard work and
thousands of dollars in personal expense. I witnessed this first hand while I
was in college at ASU in Tempe AZ and helped out when I could (for
example buying them the Warren Commissions 26 Volumes and Exhibits
for their use and study and venturing to the National Archives in
Washington DC for documents and to Bill Greer's home in nearby Maryland
(the driver of the Limo that day) to try to interview him in 1973. During this time Dad and his two associates Gil Toff and Roy Dennis telephonically interviewed nearly 50 witnesses comprising 30 hours of tape. Many of these interviews became the basis for the book. One cannot listen to some of the Dallas Police officers interviewed (who smelled “gunpowder right there in the street” and heard shots “right next to me”) and not come away convinced there really was gunfire from within the motorcade. One cannot listen to 2 police officers stationed at Parkland Hospital who were standing next to the Limo and who each saw a bullet hole in the windshield and not become convinced of evidence tampering by the Secret Service.
When the book was just about completed they printed up @ 100 copies at a personal cost of far more than $1000 (in the 1970's an enormous expense for their modest incomes and lifestyles). Not For Sale was explicitly stamped at the beginning. All copies were mailed to prominent Senators, Congressmen, FBI Agents and other law enforcement personnel for the express purpose of seriously reopening the case. Perhaps the 1976 House Select Committee on Assassinations came to be in some small measure from someone there reading Murder From Within? He and Perry were asked to testify.
I often wondered about that and also wondered what motivated my Dad to
do what he did by not trying to market and sell this incredible story. It didn't
make sense to me at the time. I am more pragmatic than my father.
Eventually I realized Dad was not motivated by greed. He was an Idealist on
a mission. After all is said and done (what with all the critics of the critics
complaining about the "money making motivation" for their books) that is to
be admired.
During this time I was in a traveling Rock Show Band The Gringos and
nearly every town we played in I would do a JFK Assassination slide show
and film and audio tape show. A primitive Powerpoint presentation so to
speak in 32 different States at all the Night Clubs we played. I would guess
hundreds of people over the years saw this or heard about this "theory" and
believe it. Nearly Every time I ask them to take their eyes off Kennedy and
watch the Driver while projecting the Zapruder Film (we had a bootleg copy
from Jim Garrison 7 years before Geraldo showed it on TV) a gasp and
groan comes out "Oh My God...he did it". The "optical illusion" on the film
of the Driver turning, aiming, firing and turning back to drive at the moment
Kennedy's head explodes is mind shattering. What are the odds such a thing
could actually happen at that exact instant on the most important amateur
film ever made? The "gun" however upon close frame inspection appears to
be part of Roy Kellerman's hair. But is it? (Fig. Forward -1)
No one can prove it either way because the film was in possession of the
Secret Service and if Dad’s theory is correct they were busy altering the film
itself creating a new original obliterating their complicity in the killing.
For the better part of forty years all of us have been scouring the landscape
for a gunman other than Oswald. We've looked in trees and bushes the sewer
system the Dal-Tex building the overpass everywhere except the most
obvious place, the car itself, which conveniently and by design became both
a portable crime scene and the "get away" car.
All along it was right there in front of us. Our eyes can't believe it. "That's
preposterous" is the first reaction. But it's really the only theory that answers
the oft asked question why did Jackie frantically try to get out of the car?
Was she going for help or trying to retrieve a part of Kennedy's skull? No.
The first law in times of danger is self-preservation. As Lenny Bruce so
inelegantly put it..."She was hauling ass to save ass".
Over the years the 100 + copies of the book became an underground cult
rarity and "must have" in the JFK Assassination Research and Collector
community. Copies of it were cheaply Xeroxed in Canada and illegally sold
from there for $30. These copies made the rounds between researchers and collectors alike.
For years and years I have been asked by scores of people if they could
purchase a copy of the manuscript Murder From Within. I've always politely
declined and told them I only have my one personal signed copy # 95 but
that perhaps someday it will be released and published. That someday has
finally arrived. It is the fondest wish of myself, my sister Valerie and Bonnie
Adams (Perry's widow) to have it legally and professionally printed and
published while Dad is still alive (although ailing). What did Dad say when
we told him about this from his convalescent bed? He smiled and said
simply "get 'er dun".
If you are reading this for first time and all you know about it is "the Driver
did it" theory be prepared to find a lot more to it than just that. Read this
knowing it was written years and years before anyone else had pointed a
finger at the Secret Service and Lyndon Johnson. This theory out of all of
them is the only one that can truly hold together as far as answering the 3
major questions: Why did it happen (motive), Who was responsible and
most important How was it covered up and a scapegoat framed.
Who could have done such a thing and gotten away with The Crime of the
Century? The "simplest explanation is the best" or "Occam's Razor" which is
an old Lawyers Maxim and certainly applies in this case. Only a small,
brutal and fiendishly clever group led by the only person driven to benefit
from the murder directly could have accomplished such a dastardly deed. All of this is certainly not without precedence in history. Going all the way back to Caesar and several Roman emperors (who were done in by their inner circle and by their own praetorian guards) and on up to Napoleon (arsenic poisoning?) Huey Long, Benigno Aquino (army airport security), Anwar Sadat and recently Indhira Ghandi.
Once the power of the Presidency was obtained Lyndon Johnson could and
did control the flow and manipulation of the evidence and also had the
umbrella of cover that if it were exposed it could quite literally collapse the
entire US Government. If exposed as an illegitimate President guilty of a
murder conspiracy the country very well could have descended into a new
civil war. Most people who "knew" kept quiet knowing full well that this is
truly "national security" and must never be exposed lest the entire country fall into complete uncontrollable civil unrest. Did Jackie tell Bobby what she thought? That the car stopped during the shooting? That there was a large exit wound in the back of his head and an ear shattering sound in her left ear combined with awful smell of gunpowder? Did they decide to go along with the official story and wait until 1968 to win back the Presidency and expose it then? We all know what happened to Bobby, don't we?
Amazon.com: murder from within: Books
Murder from Within Foreword by Tyler Newcomb
“That which is most simple and obvious is the hardest to fathom” E.A.
Poe
How It All Began
I remember it like it was yesterday. It was early summer in 1966 and I was
sitting at the breakfast table with my father, Fred T. Newcomb while he was
reading a front page article in the L.A. Times written by Robert J. Donovan.
It was a review of a new book written by Edward J. Epstein entitled Inquest.
Suddenly, Dad got up and started pacing the kitchen floor. “My God,
someone else may have shot Kennedy” were his words. That was how it all
began.
For the next 8 years nearly all of his spare time and money was devoted to
the subject. With the partnership of Perry Adams it eventually culminated in
the writing of Murder From Within in 1974.
Dad and Perry wrote Murder From Within after years of hard work and
thousands of dollars in personal expense. I witnessed this first hand while I
was in college at ASU in Tempe AZ and helped out when I could (for
example buying them the Warren Commissions 26 Volumes and Exhibits
for their use and study and venturing to the National Archives in
Washington DC for documents and to Bill Greer's home in nearby Maryland
(the driver of the Limo that day) to try to interview him in 1973. During this time Dad and his two associates Gil Toff and Roy Dennis telephonically interviewed nearly 50 witnesses comprising 30 hours of tape. Many of these interviews became the basis for the book. One cannot listen to some of the Dallas Police officers interviewed (who smelled “gunpowder right there in the street” and heard shots “right next to me”) and not come away convinced there really was gunfire from within the motorcade. One cannot listen to 2 police officers stationed at Parkland Hospital who were standing next to the Limo and who each saw a bullet hole in the windshield and not become convinced of evidence tampering by the Secret Service.
When the book was just about completed they printed up @ 100 copies at a personal cost of far more than $1000 (in the 1970's an enormous expense for their modest incomes and lifestyles). Not For Sale was explicitly stamped at the beginning. All copies were mailed to prominent Senators, Congressmen, FBI Agents and other law enforcement personnel for the express purpose of seriously reopening the case. Perhaps the 1976 House Select Committee on Assassinations came to be in some small measure from someone there reading Murder From Within? He and Perry were asked to testify.
I often wondered about that and also wondered what motivated my Dad to
do what he did by not trying to market and sell this incredible story. It didn't
make sense to me at the time. I am more pragmatic than my father.
Eventually I realized Dad was not motivated by greed. He was an Idealist on
a mission. After all is said and done (what with all the critics of the critics
complaining about the "money making motivation" for their books) that is to
be admired.
During this time I was in a traveling Rock Show Band The Gringos and
nearly every town we played in I would do a JFK Assassination slide show
and film and audio tape show. A primitive Powerpoint presentation so to
speak in 32 different States at all the Night Clubs we played. I would guess
hundreds of people over the years saw this or heard about this "theory" and
believe it. Nearly Every time I ask them to take their eyes off Kennedy and
watch the Driver while projecting the Zapruder Film (we had a bootleg copy
from Jim Garrison 7 years before Geraldo showed it on TV) a gasp and
groan comes out "Oh My God...he did it". The "optical illusion" on the film
of the Driver turning, aiming, firing and turning back to drive at the moment
Kennedy's head explodes is mind shattering. What are the odds such a thing
could actually happen at that exact instant on the most important amateur
film ever made? The "gun" however upon close frame inspection appears to
be part of Roy Kellerman's hair. But is it? (Fig. Forward -1)
No one can prove it either way because the film was in possession of the
Secret Service and if Dad’s theory is correct they were busy altering the film
itself creating a new original obliterating their complicity in the killing.
For the better part of forty years all of us have been scouring the landscape
for a gunman other than Oswald. We've looked in trees and bushes the sewer
system the Dal-Tex building the overpass everywhere except the most
obvious place, the car itself, which conveniently and by design became both
a portable crime scene and the "get away" car.
All along it was right there in front of us. Our eyes can't believe it. "That's
preposterous" is the first reaction. But it's really the only theory that answers
the oft asked question why did Jackie frantically try to get out of the car?
Was she going for help or trying to retrieve a part of Kennedy's skull? No.
The first law in times of danger is self-preservation. As Lenny Bruce so
inelegantly put it..."She was hauling ass to save ass".
Over the years the 100 + copies of the book became an underground cult
rarity and "must have" in the JFK Assassination Research and Collector
community. Copies of it were cheaply Xeroxed in Canada and illegally sold
from there for $30. These copies made the rounds between researchers and collectors alike.
For years and years I have been asked by scores of people if they could
purchase a copy of the manuscript Murder From Within. I've always politely
declined and told them I only have my one personal signed copy # 95 but
that perhaps someday it will be released and published. That someday has
finally arrived. It is the fondest wish of myself, my sister Valerie and Bonnie
Adams (Perry's widow) to have it legally and professionally printed and
published while Dad is still alive (although ailing). What did Dad say when
we told him about this from his convalescent bed? He smiled and said
simply "get 'er dun".
If you are reading this for first time and all you know about it is "the Driver
did it" theory be prepared to find a lot more to it than just that. Read this
knowing it was written years and years before anyone else had pointed a
finger at the Secret Service and Lyndon Johnson. This theory out of all of
them is the only one that can truly hold together as far as answering the 3
major questions: Why did it happen (motive), Who was responsible and
most important How was it covered up and a scapegoat framed.
Who could have done such a thing and gotten away with The Crime of the
Century? The "simplest explanation is the best" or "Occam's Razor" which is
an old Lawyers Maxim and certainly applies in this case. Only a small,
brutal and fiendishly clever group led by the only person driven to benefit
from the murder directly could have accomplished such a dastardly deed. All of this is certainly not without precedence in history. Going all the way back to Caesar and several Roman emperors (who were done in by their inner circle and by their own praetorian guards) and on up to Napoleon (arsenic poisoning?) Huey Long, Benigno Aquino (army airport security), Anwar Sadat and recently Indhira Ghandi.
Once the power of the Presidency was obtained Lyndon Johnson could and
did control the flow and manipulation of the evidence and also had the
umbrella of cover that if it were exposed it could quite literally collapse the
entire US Government. If exposed as an illegitimate President guilty of a
murder conspiracy the country very well could have descended into a new
civil war. Most people who "knew" kept quiet knowing full well that this is
truly "national security" and must never be exposed lest the entire country fall into complete uncontrollable civil unrest. Did Jackie tell Bobby what she thought? That the car stopped during the shooting? That there was a large exit wound in the back of his head and an ear shattering sound in her left ear combined with awful smell of gunpowder? Did they decide to go along with the official story and wait until 1968 to win back the Presidency and expose it then? We all know what happened to Bobby, don't we?
I've looked at the film closely and here are some numbers which you can find yourself. The driver is looking at JFK before, during and immediately after the fatal shot. This is an anomaly of epic proportions if he didn't shoot Kennedy. He is driving the limo and manages to look at Kennedy a half second before the shot, at the moment, and right after in a moving car which he is driving. IT'S DNA IMPOSSIBLE.
And he lied about ever seeing Kennedy even though he was clearly looking at him twice in less than 2 seconds. He lied because he killed Kennedy and understood that that would raise questions as to why he didn't speed off after looking the first time.
He turns around the first time at 272. Kellerman turned before at 260 so they are both looking at jfk at the same time until 289. They are both clearly aware that at least Kennedy has been hit and what do they do...slow the limo down and finish Kennedy off at point blank range. Greer turns back straight at 289, they both look at each around 290-292 and they know at that moment they are gonna shoot the sitting duck in the back seat. Greer starts his second turn at 301-302 and is looking right at Greer by 304 and turns away and pulls the gun down by 318. There are 45 frames between 272-317 and Greer's looking at Kennedy in those critical moments for 30 of those frames.
Greer's lies are right up there with OJ Simpson. He was looking directly at Kennedy two seperate times. The first time at frame 272 and again at 302. The film proves many things and certainly proves Greer lied big time. THE FAKE REFLECTION RECOILS LIKE A GUN AND SEPARATES FROM KELLERMAN'S HEAD.
Mr. SPECTER - Were you able to see anything of President Kennedy as you glanced to the rear?
Mr. GREER - No, sir; I didn't see anything of the President, I didn't look, I wasn't far enough around to see the President.
And he lied about ever seeing Kennedy even though he was clearly looking at him twice in less than 2 seconds. He lied because he killed Kennedy and understood that that would raise questions as to why he didn't speed off after looking the first time.
He turns around the first time at 272. Kellerman turned before at 260 so they are both looking at jfk at the same time until 289. They are both clearly aware that at least Kennedy has been hit and what do they do...slow the limo down and finish Kennedy off at point blank range. Greer turns back straight at 289, they both look at each around 290-292 and they know at that moment they are gonna shoot the sitting duck in the back seat. Greer starts his second turn at 301-302 and is looking right at Greer by 304 and turns away and pulls the gun down by 318. There are 45 frames between 272-317 and Greer's looking at Kennedy in those critical moments for 30 of those frames.
Greer's lies are right up there with OJ Simpson. He was looking directly at Kennedy two seperate times. The first time at frame 272 and again at 302. The film proves many things and certainly proves Greer lied big time. THE FAKE REFLECTION RECOILS LIKE A GUN AND SEPARATES FROM KELLERMAN'S HEAD.
Mr. SPECTER - Were you able to see anything of President Kennedy as you glanced to the rear?
Mr. GREER - No, sir; I didn't see anything of the President, I didn't look, I wasn't far enough around to see the President.
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