JFK assassination and the CIA

Aufgeblassen said:

I guess everybody else in the car simply were not paying much attention, and simply did not see nor hear the gun blast.

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Who else could Connally have seen shoot jfk besides the driver? He was looking at Greer when the shot was fired.

Connally said he saw the fatal shot and quickly corrected himself but his reaction when looking at Greer proves he slipped up. Watch him hit the floor in horror once he realized Greer shot JFK. The Governor, logically starting turning toward the driver because he was braking before he shot the President.

Obviously, at least the major wound that I took in the shoulder through the chest couldn't have been anything but the second shot. Obviously, it couldn't have been the third, because when the third shot was fired I was in a reclining position, and heard it, saw it and the effects of it, rather--I didn't see it, I saw the effects of it--so it obviously could not have been the third, and couldn't have been the first, in my judgment.




So I merely doubled up, and then turned to my right again and began to--I just sat there, and Mrs. Connally pulled me over to her lap. She was sitting, of course, on the jump seat, so I reclined with my head in her lap, conscious all the time, and with my eyes open; and then, of course, the third shot sounded, and I heard the shot very clearly. I heard it hit him. I heard the shot hit something, and I assumed again--it never entered my mind that it ever hit anybody but the President. I heard it hit. It was a very loud noise, just that audible, very clear.

GREER FIRED RIGHT OVER CONNALLY'S HEAD and when he realized Greer fired it, he hit the floor, terrified. WATCH THE GOVERNOR.

Aufgeblassen said:

Got any evidence besides pure speculation???

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No front head wound existed officially or really. The rear exit has a line drawn from top to bottom with the gaping hole between those points. That hole was witnessed by over forty people, and documented in the autopsy report. You can't really ignore the rear exit wound because that's exactly where the fake entrance has to be.

12) Dr. Richard Brooks Dulany, Resident Surgeon [Dulaney]: V. Palamara: 'Medical Reference' book (excerpt)
a) 6 H 114 /testimony (3/25/64)---" he had a large head wound-that was the first thing I noticed." Arlen Specter did not have him elaborate on any details.;

b) other WC references: WR 56, 529; 3 H 358, 384; 6 H 2, 11, 46, 52-53,
69, 73-74; 17 H 14; 21 H 241;c) "High Treason", pages 43, 46, 460,and 489 ("The Boston Globe",6/21/81 [see also "Killing Kennedy", page 303])---"The copy of the autopsy photo was shown to him by the Globe and he stated that it was not accurate. When shown the official picture, he said that there was a "definite conflict" and "that's not the way I remember it."**; "Somebody lifted up his head and showed me the back of his head. We couldn't see much until they picked up his head. I was standing beside him. The wound was on the back of his head. On the back side the whole back-side was gone..it was a big gaping wound."; **"The tape and summary of Dulaney is in the JFK Library, and I have since talked with him, verifying this.";

The back of his head opens up when the red mist appears in the front.




Somebody lifted up his head and showed him the back of jfk's head. IT WAS GONE. That's not even debatable.:smug:

Aufgeblassen said:

LOL!!! You can clearly tell that has been tampered with/videochopped!!!

A shot in the head results in blood shooting out the other side. Since that video shows blood shooting out the front of the head, the bullet clearly enter the backside of the head, so that fake video showing the car driver shooting, is just that.

BTW: The Bigfoot and Loch Ness videos are fake too!

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By whom? The film is the film. The back of the head is blasted open. Of course the forty eyewitnesses are proven correct by frame 313. It's logical that the hole was always there, but ignored, because the hole was really there, on the rear.

Aufgeblassen said:

LOL!!! You can clearly tell that has been tampered with/videochopped!!!

A shot in the head results in blood shooting out the other side. Since that video shows blood shooting out the front of the head, the bullet clearly enter the backside of the head, so that fake video showing the car driver shooting, is just that.

BTW: The Bigfoot and Loch Ness videos are fake too!

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Was the Doctor wrong about seeing the rear blasted open when the head was lifted to show that area, the rear?:bounce:

Aufgeblassen said:

You are

PLAIN & SIMPLE!!!

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Only a delusional liar would actually deny Greer's guilt after just seeing the Zapruder film, let alone the other two.:giggle:

I wasn't born yet and I don't care.

Aufgeblassen said:

That doctored video CLEARLY plain as day show the force of a shot causing spewing in the front, which is 180 degrees contrary to your fantasy of a shot from the front.

You are in horrible/hopeless denial!!!

When you shot into a watermelon, it is going to blast/spew bigtime out the backside, with a very small hole in the frontside where bullet entered.

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So, the doctor wasn't wrong, gotcha.:smug:

The doctored video CLEARLY plain as day shows the force of a shot from the front causing a violent thrashing backward, which is 180 degrees contrary to your fantasy shot from the rear.

You are a horrible/hopeless failure!!!

When shot into in the head, the victim is slammed in the opposite direction from which the bullet came. Jfk was slammed backward from Greer's shot, and the other guy goes forward, the direction jfk would have if shot from the rear.

You would have to show a man going backward from a rear shot, which of course is impossible. That's your case, an impossible and debunked rear shot.



In the real world a man goes forward from a rear shot to the head.

Aufgeblassen said:

LOL!!! You can clearly tell that has been tampered with/videochopped!!!

A shot in the head results in blood shooting out the other side. Since that video shows blood shooting out the front of the head, the bullet clearly enter the backside of the head, so that fake video showing the car driver shooting, is just that.

BTW: The Bigfoot and Loch Ness videos are fake too!

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Jfk's face was clear in reality. But, the x-rays and front of frame 313 show it removed. This cannot be reconciled without copping to film and x-ray alteration. Since the bullet entered the forehead the red blob had to be added there to indicate an exit, because without it the violent impact would've been obvious.

For the record....this is thread only allowed to continue for entertainment.

Aufgeblassen said:

What you really mean is that the x-rays and front of frame 313 of the doctored video show it removed.

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They were both doctored but the rear is missing in frame 313. That's where the exit wound was, not on the face. The witnesses confirm that area of exit, therefore that's where it was.

Testimony Of Clinton J. Hill, Special Agent, Secret Service

The closest witnesses saw the right rear exit as does every person viewing in it frame 313.

Clint Hill saw the rear exit, skull detach and heard Greer's revolver.

Mr. HILL. This is the first sound that I heard; yes, sir. I jumped from the car, realizing that something was wrong, ran to the Presidential limousine. Just about as I reached it, there was another sound, which was different than the first sound. I think I described it in my statement as though someone was shooting a revolver into a hard object--it seemed to have some type of an echo. I put my right foot, I believe it was, on the left rear step of the automobile, and I had a hold of the handgrip with my hand, when the car lurched forward. I lost my footing and I had to run about three or four more steps before I could get back up in the car.
Between the time I originally grabbed the handhold and until I was up on the car, Mrs. Kennedy--the second noise that I heard had removed a portion of the President's head, and he had slumped noticeably to his left. Mrs. Kennedy had jumped up from the seat and was, it appeared to me, reaching for something coming off the right rear bumper of the car, the right rear tail, when she noticed that I was trying to climb on the car. She turned toward me and I grabbed her and put her back in the back seat, crawled up on top of the back seat and lay there.

Mr. SPECTER. You say that it appeared that she was reaching as if something was coming over to the rear portion of the car, back in the area where you were coming to?
Mr. HILL. Yes, sir.
Mr. SPECTER. Was there anything back there that you observed, that she might have been reaching for?
Mr. HILL. I thought I saw something come off the back, too, but I cannot say that there was. I do know that the next day we found the portion of the President's head.
Mr. SPECTER. Where did you find that portion of the President's head?
Mr. HILL. It was found in the street. It was turned in, I believe, by a medical student or somebody in Dallas.


Mr. SPECTER. What did you observe as to President Kennedy's condition on arrival at the hospital?
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.

Mr. SPECTER. I believe you testified as to the impression you had as to the source of the first shot. To be sure that the record is complete, what was your reaction as to where the first shot came from, Mr. Hill?
Mr. HILL. Right rear.
Mr. SPECTER. And did you have a reaction or impression as to the source of point of origin of the second shot that you described?
Mr. HILL. It was right, but I cannot say for sure that it was rear, because when I mounted the car it was--it had a different sound, first of all, than the first sound that I heard. The second one had almost a double sound--as though you were standing against something metal and firing into it, and you hear both the sound of a gun going off and the sound of the cartridge hitting the metal place, which could have been caused probably by the hard surface of the head. But I am not sure that that is what caused it.

Mr. SPECTER. Are you describing this double sound with respect to what you heard on the occasion of the second shot?
Mr. HILL. The second shot that I heard; yes, sir.
Mr. SPECTER. Now, do you now or have you ever had the impression or reaction that there was a shot which originated from the front of the Presidential car?
Mr. HILL. No.

The back of his head opens up when the red mist appears in the front.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8_hDakTz2I

It couldn't be the grassy knoll because the bullet only involved the right front impact, and right rear exit. Slow motion confirmed that three years ago. The grassy knoll shot only could've entered the right temporal region. The bullet entered over the right eye, which excludes the grassy snow job. Of course this analysis conforms to the right rear exit.

Aufgeblassen said:

If you tell yourself a lie enough times, you actually believe it is true!!!

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One of many facts, you cannot explain the blood splatter shown clearly in Zapruder and x-rays YOU won't provide. His face was clear according to the autopsy report/photos, and eyewitnesses.

Jfk's face was clear in reality. But, the x-rays and front of frame 313 and 327 show it removed. This cannot be reconciled without copping to film and x-ray alteration.

It was a defect on the top of the head, matted blood and disrupted scalp. Read this eyewitness account from a doctor who distinguished the exit wound in the Occipital bone from the larger defect in the Parietal region. Frame 313 clearly shows the hair lifted up and the rear exit wound perfectly.

The bullet entered the right forehead, lifted up the Parietal bone, creating extensive fractures and ultimately exited the Occipital bone. That is exactly what happened, you little cunt. The autopsy photo matches frame 313 quite predictably.

Dr. Grossman clearly states that the hole was too large to be an entrance wound, because the large irregular hole was a wound of exit. The back of the head was lifted up to demonstrate the large wound on the right rear. Frame 313 and the autopsy report jibe nicely to produce a factual basis for the rear blow-out witnessed by forty or so folks, including Jackie and the driver. Instead of completely lying, Dr. Humes simply understated the missing skull in the Occipital region which the hole was most dominant.

Lastly, Dr. Grossman describes perfectly the confusion about whether a hole exited in the Parietal region: "It was clear to me that the right parietal bone had been lifted up by a bullet which had exited." There was no hole on the top of the head. It was on the right rear and likely the top back/Parietal, not the very top. His hair and skull is clearly lifted up in the second skull image, thereby corroborating Grossman's accurate view of the wounds.

V. Palamara: 'Medical Reference' book (excerpt)
JFK Lancer

Missile Wounds

1. There is a large irregular defect of the scalp and skull on the right
involving chiefly the parietal bone but extending somewhat into the
temporal and occipital regions. In this region there is an actual
absence of scalp and bone producing a defect which measures
approximately 13 cm. in greatest diameter.

11) Dr. Robert G. Grossman, Resident Neurosurgeon:
a) "High Treason", pages 30, 36, 51, 53, 459 ("The Boston Globe", June
21, 1981-notes placed in JFK Library [see also "Killing Kennedy", pp.
303-304, "Between The Signal and the Noise" by Roger Bruce Feinman
(1993) and Groden's "TKOAP", p. 181])---saw two separate head wounds: a
large defect in the parietal area above the right ear,

as well as "a
large [albeit smaller than the first wound described], separate wound,
located squarely in the occiput."; "

described a large hole squarely in
the occiput, far too large for a bullet entry wound "; Grossman: "It was
clear to me that the right parietal bone had been lifted up by a bullet
which had exited."; noticed the skin flap near the right temple; Dr.
Clark picked up the back of the head to demonstrate the wound;
b) 6 H 81 (Salyer)---confirms Grossman's presence in Trauma Room One;

JFK Assassination: One Month After JFK’s Murder, Former President Harry Truman Called For Abolishing The CIA
JFK Assassination: One Month After JFK?s Murder, Former President Harry Truman Called For Abolishing The CIA

In December 1963, Truman articulated in no uncertain terms what he thought of the CIA’s covert operations dimension:

Truman said they should “be terminated.”

Later, in 1964, Truman would reiterate his call for removing covert operations from the CIA in a letter to Look magazine -- underscoring that he never intended the CIA to get involved in “strange activities” when he signed the legislation creating the institution.

This statement reaches at least as far back as the JFK assassination, no doubt.

CORRECT GHWB QUOTE - WITH SARAH MCCLENDON

Posted By: Guarded_Optimist
Date: Friday, 17-Nov-2006 15:13:42

In Response To: GHWB QUOTE ON ABC DURING THE 1990's (Guarded_Optimist)

A reader sent in the corrected quote. It appeared during a June 1992 interview with the late Sarah McClendon, the grand dame of the White House press corps at the time.

https://www.google.com/#q=george+bush+if...hat+we+did

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Sarah McClendon: "What will the people do if they ever find out the truth about Iraq-gate and Iran contra?

George H.W. Bush: "Sarah, if the American people ever find out what we have done, they will chase us down the streets and lynch us."

Aufgeblassen said:

I am not even going to waste my time watching it, but I am 100% certain what you are saying is TOTALLY out of context.

If he laughs, it is to the suggestion that there was a conspiracy, which is indeed laughable!!!

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You aren't even going to waste your time watching it, because you are 100% certain his laughing is TOTALLY consistent with the government killing jfk.:smug:

he laughs at the suggestion that there wasn't a conspiracy, which is indeed laughable!!!

Bush Sr Laughs at JFK Shooting

"After a deluded gunman (he laughs) assassinated President Kennedy our nation turned to Gerald Ford and a select handful of others to make sense of that madness." Of course he's laughing at the absurdity of a lone gunman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZb_UAoHQBU

Aufgeblassen said:

My wife's family knows the Bush's family. The family is honest, trustworthy, and above board. You are delusional to think otherwise.

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I don't give a fuk about your family or wife or whoever. The driver shot jfk and Bush was laughing at that fact and the stupid lie that a lone gunman was responsible.

Aufgeblassen said:

You are delusional. Seek immediate psychiatric help.

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You are retarded, stupid and irrelevant. Oswald was a patsy. The driver shot jfk and you have no evidence to the contrary.:giggle: