Lifelong party affiliation

myp · Nov 7, 2012

I don't know the primary source or how reliable this person or study was, but one of the analysts on CNN last night was talking about how it tends to be that when a person votes for the same party in their first three elections, they tend to very likely remain with that party for the rest of their lives. And a lot of my generations vote has gone Kerry, Obama, Obama. Not a good sign for the GOP if what she said is the case.

Not a good sign to me either because I am not a fan of partisanship. Some of the things I saw on twitter and facebook today and yesterday from friends was very disheartening.

David · Nov 7, 2012

myp said:
I don't know the primary source or how reliable this person or study was, but one of the analysts on CNN last night was talking about how it tends to be that when a person votes for the same party in their first three elections, they tend to very likely remain with that party for the rest of their lives. And a lot of my generations vote has gone Kerry, Obama, Obama. Not a good sign for the GOP if what she said is the case.

Not a good sign to me either because I am not a fan of partisanship. Some of the things I saw on twitter and facebook today and yesterday from friends was very disheartening.

I'm not going to lie, I've been gloating. Not because Obama won, I didn't vote for him, it's more along the lines of enjoying the TP being shown the door. The rest of that trash should be thrown out in '14.

reader · Nov 9, 2012

The things that determine the colour of vote do not change easily and fastly.

=Zoomer= · Nov 9, 2012

myp said:
I don't know the primary source or how reliable this person or study was, but one of the analysts on CNN last night was talking about how it tends to be that when a person votes for the same party in their first three elections, they tend to very likely remain with that party for the rest of their lives. And a lot of my generations vote has gone Kerry, Obama, Obama. Not a good sign for the GOP if what she said is the case.

Not a good sign to me either because I am not a fan of partisanship. Some of the things I saw on twitter and facebook today and yesterday from friends was very disheartening.

I would say that's true of low information voters and those that vote along religious values. Not so much of independents or those of us that have a deeper understanding of the issues (on all sides).

The GOP is in "danger" of becoming a third party (or extinct) if it doesn't recognize the changing demographics in this country and adjust it's policies accordingly. The generational consequences of not doing so will be terminal for them.

clax · Nov 9, 2012

=Zoomer= said:
I would say that's true of low information voters and those that vote along religious values. Not so much of independents or those of us that have a deeper understanding of the issues (on all sides).

The GOP is in "danger" of becoming a third party (or extinct) if it doesn't recognize the changing demographics in this country and adjust it's policies accordingly. The generational consequences of not doing so will be terminal for them.

as an independent myself I do also fear the dissolve of the only other party. But like I said in another thread the republican party is splintering.

myp · Nov 9, 2012

=Zoomer= said:
I would say that's true of low information voters and those that vote along religious values.

Question is... is that number of voters high enough to determine an election? I would say easily yes after what I saw posted online these past couple of weeks even from people who I know are quite smart.

=Zoomer= · Nov 9, 2012

myp said:
Question is... is that number of voters high enough to determine an election? I would say easily yes after what I saw posted online these past couple of weeks even from people who I know are quite smart.

I would agree. Yes. Nowhere is this more pronounced than here in Utah. I can't tell you how many Mormons I've discussed politics with here that "speak the party line", not out of understanding, but in order to appear to be "in line" with their religion. It's very destructive in my opinion. What they don't realize (or don't accept) is that fundamentally, they are the most socialistic society in the country, with the caveat that instead of being wards of the state, they're wards of the church. They're taxed 10% of their income, and for that, if needed, the church will pay their bills when they can't, feed them, and call it "charity". Personally, I find it disgusting that they can't understand why non-religious people do not want to be beholden to, or otherwise validate their existence by accepting their help. Yet, aren't we all entitled to the same treatment?....

David · Nov 10, 2012

=Zoomer= said:
I would agree. Yes. Nowhere is this more pronounced than here in Utah. I can't tell you how many Mormons I've discussed politics with here that "speak the party line", not out of understanding, but in order to appear to be "in line" with their religion. It's very destructive in my opinion. What they don't realize (or don't accept) is that fundamentally, they are the most socialistic society in the country, with the caveat that instead of being wards of the state, they're wards of the church. They're taxed 10% of their income, and for that, if needed, the church will pay their bills when they can't, feed them, and call it "charity". Personally, I find it disgusting that they can't understand why non-religious people do not want to be beholden to, or otherwise validate their existence by accepting their help. Yet, aren't we all entitled to the same treatment?....

They're not all that bad. I work with a Mormon and he's made the same connection you did. Instead of playing mental gymnastics, he became a socialist.

=Zoomer= · Nov 10, 2012

David said:
They're not all that bad. I work with a Mormon and he's made the same connection you did. Instead of playing mental gymnastics, he became a socialist.

haha... good on im! Actually, I realized right after I posted that I hadn't made the distinction between "Utah" Mormons. And I should also mention that Obama actually got more of the overall Mormon vote then Romney! How does that compute?

Anyway, thanks for pointing it out...

David · Nov 10, 2012

=Zoomer= said:
haha... good on im! Actually, I realized right after I posted that I hadn't made the distinction between "Utah" Mormons. And I should also mention that Obama actually got more of the overall Mormon vote then Romney! How does that compute?

Anyway, thanks for pointing it out...

He got more of the Vote because he's a sell out. The aforementioned Mormon knows Romney (they went to church together before Romney became a bishop) and voted for Obama because he'd done a complete 180 trying to pander to the extreme right.

Wendy · Nov 11, 2012

I just can't stand it when some so called analyst puts people in a box! We're all unique, I don't believe we all agree on everything & the only reason I can think of for anybody to "vote for the same party" forever is that either they don't think for themselves....or they're akin to an amoeba.
I voted for JFK my first vote, thyen LBJ. LBJ was such a thug my next vote was for Nixon (jeez). After that, I figured my voting had to change....I have voted for Dems & Repubs, Independents, & Libertarians. Democrats get fewer of my votes than any other person. Their party platform will not allow me to vote for them again.

myp · Nov 11, 2012

Everyone isn't like you Wendy. But as I said it was just in talking that she mentioned this so I don't know the rigor of the study behind the words.

Wendy · Nov 11, 2012

myp said:
Everyone isn't like you Wendy. But as I said it was just in talking that she mentioned this so I don't know the rigor of the study behind the words.

Everyone isn't like me? :cry:

Elmer Gantry · Nov 16, 2012

myp said:
I don't know the primary source or how reliable this person or study was, but one of the analysts on CNN last night was talking about how it tends to be that when a person votes for the same party in their first three elections, they tend to very likely remain with that party for the rest of their lives. And a lot of my generations vote has gone Kerry, Obama, Obama. Not a good sign for the GOP if what she said is the case.

Not a good sign to me either because I am not a fan of partisanship. Some of the things I saw on twitter and facebook today and yesterday from friends was very disheartening.

Good point and I'm also not a fan of partisanship. John Adams opposed the idea of political parties and so do I. I am very independent and I believe a candidate must (earn) my vote as opposed to voting for him out of obligation to a party. Ideology also matters but all too many candidates are not true to their parties ideology. We need more choices,this time around I voted for Gary Johnson with no expectation of him winning and I was not disappointed..

Iolo · Nov 17, 2012

myp said:
I don't know the primary source or how reliable this person or study was, but one of the analysts on CNN last night was talking about how it tends to be that when a person votes for the same party in their first three elections, they tend to very likely remain with that party for the rest of their lives. And a lot of my generations vote has gone Kerry, Obama, Obama. Not a good sign for the GOP if what she said is the case.

Not a good sign to me either because I am not a fan of partisanship. Some of the things I saw on twitter and facebook today and yesterday from friends was very disheartening.

If parties don't represent something basic about our 'personalities' and our backgrounds, why on earth do we need them?

David · Nov 17, 2012

Iolo said:
If parties don't represent something basic about our 'personalities' and our backgrounds, why on earth do we need them?

It's sort of like unions. They are necessary in a new democratic system to help less then influential people to get elected. At some point they always become a force in their own right and exist just to drive the people insane and take their money. Eventually people will get fed up, elect a dictator and call it a day. Rinse and repeat after a few decades of oppression.

Bill · Nov 25, 2012

Did the analyst on CNN limit the observation to just Presidential races? Ticket splitting used to be pretty common although I don't know if it still is. I don't really care for the extreme elements in either major political party so I tend to spread my votes around. The idea of one party running the whole show doesn't sit well with me.

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