Massive earthquake hits Haiti

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Estimates ranging from tens of thousands to a hundred thousand people have died in a massive earthquake in Haiti. With a poor infrastructure system and weaker buildings, a lot of damage has been done to the country thus far and there is a lot of fear among the people within and outside of the country. It really is an unfortunate disaster. Thoughts?

ref: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60B5IZ20100113
 
Mar 2009
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Estimates ranging from tens of thousands to a hundred thousand people have died in a massive earthquake in Haiti. With a poor infrastructure system and weaker buildings, a lot of damage has been done to the country thus far and there is a lot of fear among the people within and outside of the country. It really is an unfortunate disaster. Thoughts?

ref: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60B5IZ20100113
What makes it really bad and maybe even unique is that it hit their main town Port-au-Prince and erased the churches, the presidential palace, the prison, the tax office, the parliament, basically all of their infrastructure, and also all their sources of organizing relief operations, such as the churches. This has to be a nightmare, no security, and as far as I understand approx 100 000 bodies strewn about. They are trying to lay them out. Disease has to follow soon, as I can imagine all the plumbing, water and sewerage systems must be also destroyed. I have to wonder however in this day and age of sophisticated equipment how come they could not warn the country. They seem to have been completely unprepared. The President survived, so I wonder whether he must have had a bunker of sorts under his Palace, as his Palace had been completely destroyed. The Arch Bishop of the Catholic Church however died.
 
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I wonder how they are going to get supplies to Haiti, as the airport in Port au Prince has to be destroyed as well. I guess the whole of the city will have to be rebuilt from scratch. Pretty awful disaster.
 
Jul 2009
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What are the odds of having the most powerful earthquake in 200 years hit the downtown of the capital of 1 of the poorest nations on the planet? :eek:

A civil war and too many hurricanes to count in just a decade and now this? They need to rebuild ASAP or that nation is going down the drain. The last thing we need is a failed-state in the Caribbean.
 
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What are the odds of having the most powerful earthquake in 200 years hit the downtown of the capital of 1 of the poorest nations on the planet? :eek:
Agreed. This is stuff of sinners being punished dreams, quite shocking what Robertson came up with. But yes, amazing how it went for the capital and in one swoop all of the infrastructure destroyed. Totally sad.
 
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Such a tragedy. I'm so happy people are stepping up to the plate and helping out. How anyone could not care or have a concern for this country and it's people is beyond me.
 
Jul 2009
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If there is 1 good thing it's this, a people with next to nothing don't lose much when they lose everything. If they can bring in investment, this disaster has given them an excuse to build a new, better nation from scratch.
 
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If there is 1 good thing it's this, a people with next to nothing don't lose much when they lose everything. If they can bring in investment, this disaster has given them an excuse to build a new, better nation from scratch.
Sounds like the equivalent of a silver lining around a very dark cloud. I'm a little cynical however, as they are still the same people who have not managed to flourish at any time during their history. And the Catholic Church will probably be rebuilding its Church in full force again.
 
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Sounds like the equivalent of a silver lining around a very dark cloud. I'm a little cynical however, as they are still the same people who have not managed to flourish at any time during their history. And the Catholic Church will probably be rebuilding its Church in full force again.

Never in their history? They managed to unite the island once upon a time (a major reason for Haitian/Dominican relations historically being hostile).
 
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Never in their history? They managed to unite the island once upon a time (a major reason for Haitian/Dominican relations historically being hostile).
Sorry, I'm obviously not that clued up on their history. I thought they were pretty much an impoverished people before the earthquake had hit them. With a high crime rate.
By most economic measures, Haiti is the poorest country in the Americas. It had a nominal GDP of 7.018 billion USD in 2009, with a GDP per capita of 790 USD, about $2 per person per day.
It is an impoverished country, one of the world's poorest and least developed. Comparative social and economic indicators show Haiti falling behind other low-income developing countries (particularly in the hemisphere) since the 1980s. Haiti now ranks 149th of 182 countries in the United Nations Human Development Index (2006). About 80% of the population were estimated to be living in poverty in 2003. Most Haitians live on $2 or less per day. Haiti has 50% illiteracy, and over 80% of college graduates from Haiti have emigrated, mostly to the United States. Cit? Soleil is considered one of the worst slums in the Americas, most of its 500,000 residents live in extreme poverty. Poverty has forced at least 225,000 children in Haiti's cities into slavery, working as unpaid household servants.
Wikipedia
 
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Sorry, I'm obviously not that clued up on their history. I thought they were pretty much an impoverished people before the earthquake had hit them. With a high crime rate.
Wikipedia

Well ya but to say they never had a high point is wrong. how about being the only slave revolt to work?
 
Mar 2009
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Well ya but to say they never had a high point is wrong. how about being the only slave revolt to work?
OK, that would say they can revolt, it does not say they are good at managing themselves? They seem to be pretty lousy at doing that.
 
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OK, that would say they can revolt, it does not say they are good at managing themselves? They seem to be pretty lousy at doing that.

Many slaves revolted, only the Haitians won. Then they turned around and conquered the Dominican Republic. Seems like they were well organized to me, at 1st anyway.
 
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Many slaves revolted, only the Haitians won. Then they turned around and conquered the Dominican Republic. Seems like they were well organized to me, at 1st anyway.
Maybe they are good at making war, sort of a passionate bunch, but when they have to buckle down and do the mundane task of looking after their own people, they seem to come short with that.
 
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Maybe they are good at making war, sort of a passionate bunch, but when they have to buckle down and do the mundane task of looking after their own people, they seem to come short with that.

I think that's missing the real cause. It was a colony. Most colonies do terribly. There are exceptions, such as the US and Canada. But think of Rwanda, Algeria - and indeed, Haiti.
 
Jul 2009
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I think that's missing the real cause. It was a colony. Most colonies do terribly. There are exceptions, such as the US and Canada. But think of Rwanda, Algeria - and indeed, Haiti.

We had the rare benefit of being wealthier then the Motherland.
 
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I think that's missing the real cause. It was a colony. Most colonies do terribly. There are exceptions, such as the US and Canada. But think of Rwanda, Algeria - and indeed, Haiti.
Come off it Dirk, at some or other point the people have to take responsibility for their own existence. They can't keep blaming it on others. I would not even dream to compare Rwanda with Haiti, the people of Rwanda are completely different to those in Haiti, and as far as I can see for this present time anyway, much more willing to take responsibility for their own country. The energy that they have put into getting themselves on track after those awful wars, is far ahead of any of what I have seen in Haiti, people of which seem to be waiting for hand-outs most of the time, unwilling to take charge of themselves.
 
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