Both Religions (in fact all) deserve to be respected, if only because the followers do.
While we are free to follow a faith, so is everyone else.
I personally do not take issue with Religion...but some within it have lost my respect.
Just as they can for being a jerk.
While we are free to follow a faith, so is everyone else.
I personally do not take issue with Religion...but some within it have lost my respect.
Just as they can for being a jerk.
Though the problem I see is people blame religion for that. I can't do that it is the person's fault for whatever reason. Maybe they take the doctrine to extreme's, or just toss the doctrine aside and do whatever they want claiming to be the Christian, Muslim, Jew.
The problem I see here is a religion is being blamed which is lump a group of people together for the actions of a few. I myself find that wrong even if I don't believe in the doctrine myself.
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Agreed...though there are times when it is clear an individual, or even a group would not act as they do in the absence of religion. There, it is easy to assign blame to the faith...especially when the act creates an emotional response.
Personally, I have no use for any of the faiths...but my opinion is just that........Mine.
I am a person of faith. I can't tell you how many times I been lumped into Christianity as a whole. Though I believe I am a devote Christian and don't see eye to eye with everyone on the issues.
What I find is I get lumped in with the Catholics, or the Ultra Christian which is what I like to call them.
My belief is I am not the one who is to judge a person regardless of faith or personal feeling. It is for God to make judgement on them. Other then when someone breaks the law then we have to judge that person innocent or guilty.
Though it is typical of a good portion of people to hate something and lump everyone who believes in that particular thing into one group.
I tend to have problems with that and can be outspoken about it.
With Christianity it is almost impossible to not lump. Even Christians disagree on who is or is not...thus it becomes pointless for one outside the Christian world to even try.
Given the huge amount of offshoots, sects, types....etc...
I just accept you are Christian, and follow the Christ.
"According to the World Christian Encyclopedia (year 2000 version), global Christianity had 33,820 denominations with 3,445,000 congregations/churches composed of 1,888 million affiliated Christians."
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_different_types_of_Christianity_are_there
Given the huge amount of offshoots, sects, types....etc...
I just accept you are Christian, and follow the Christ.
"According to the World Christian Encyclopedia (year 2000 version), global Christianity had 33,820 denominations with 3,445,000 congregations/churches composed of 1,888 million affiliated Christians."
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_different_types_of_Christianity_are_there
Well in reality for the whole of Christianity people believe in different ways. Catholics believe that the only way to approach God is through a Priest. Though they are the only sect that believes this.
They believe this despite the Bible's telling the people the only person you need to mediate. There are subtle differences if one looks into it and some not so subtle.
I was also a Catholic for many years...the priest was just a guy in the church who dressed funny and bored us all.
God was never even there...that I knew of.
I never understood why God would have us confess our sins to a man. I came to my understanding many years later.
chris ,as far as l know ,god never wanted you to do it .)
l cant see any word in bible referring to this confession thing.
chris ,as far as l know ,god never wanted you to do it .)
l cant see any word in bible referring to this confession thing.
Well there is the whole say sorry to Jesus thing but otherwise, ya.
chris ,as far as l know ,god never wanted you to do it .)
l cant see any word in bible referring to this confession thing.
Sorry Confession I should say is the wrong term. My Catholic school days show through sometimes.
What I am trying to say is that man can't be a go between for God. The only Go between is Christ
This passage is one of many that tell us we need not confess our sins to any one but Christ and God.
It is not men that get us to God but Christ.
NO, I am the one who has examined Islam properly, as have millions of others, who do not regard Islam as a religion, but rather a goofball creation of a bunch of medieval thugs who decided to use religion as a cover for their numerous evil deeds.
It's obvious how Islam came to be purported as a "religion". When the founders of it were espousing imperialist genocidal mass murder, extreme misogyny, rape, pedophilia, kidnapping/slavery, torture/mutilation, racial and sexist discrimination, animal cruelty/killing, and other vile things, and were looking for troops to join them in their conquests throughout Asia Minor, they needed something very powerful and extreme to offset and shield them from the severe condemnation they were sure to get.
The answer was religion. By pretending that the Koran, and all of its hatred and immorality was the word of God, they forced the people to accept it. After all, nobody wants to go against God do they ? As this grandiose con job spread, over time, it became deeper and deeper entrenched as a religion, and more and more difficult to abolish or reform.
And it spread only because the murderous Muslim marauders who spread it, killed 270 million people around the world to do that. Many, if not most, Muslims living today, trace their ancestry back to people who were non-Muslims and were forced to become Muslims. Hell of a way for someone to call himself a Muslim.
Islam Watch - About Us
Islam Is Not A Religion, It Is Foreign Law
http://newenglishreview.org/Rebecca_...ot_a_Religion/
http://www.islamreview.com/articles/...religion.shtml
Why Islam Should NOT Be Protected Under the US Constitution! | CatchKevin.com
http://www.thecatholicthing.org/colu...-religion.html
http://blogs.ssrc.org/tif/2010/07/28...ot-a-religion/
http://thepatriotfactor.blogspot.com...-religion.html
Islam is NOT a Religion
http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comm...her_heres_why/
As for encouraging me to study Islam, why don't you try reading the threads before you come bungling in here spouting off ignorance ? In another thread > "Is Islam a Religion ?", I mentioned a few times that I've read the Koran since 1959, in 18 different translations, most recently Pickthall, Arberry, Shakir, Dawood, and the CAIR-endsorsed, sanitized for Western readers, Ali version.
Lastly, to refer to Islam as "peaceful, compassionate, and a wonderful religion" is about the craziest words anyone could ever speak. All 4 of those descriptions are about as wrong as they ever could be. Islam is a warmongering ideology of world conquest (having killed 270 million people for 1400 years) that makes Adolf Hitler's case look tiny. Compassionate doesn't exactly describe blaming women rape victims, and then stoning them to death, as well as shooting other women and girls for things in the US we would consider perfectly innocent. On Eid al Adha, Muslims don't show much "compassion" to millions of innocent animals which they murder by the millions, or to gays and apostates they hang, or children they molest, as in Saudi Arabia where the age of consent is birth. Nothing "wonderful" about wife-beating (Koran 4:34), pedophilia (Koran 65:4), slavery (Koran 33:50, 25:5-6, 4:24, many more), rape (33:50, 4:92)
Racism against Blacks is also rampant in the Islamic world, like in Sudan and Mauratania, where Muslims still kidnap Blacks and enslave them, and even use the Arabic word "abed" or abeed" which means both black and slave.
Slavery and rape are encouraged in the koran Harrak :: Reader comments at Daniel Pipes
Pedophilia in the Qur'an - WikiIslam
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.5035047171589564&pid=15.1
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For those who are foolish enough to even begin to attempt to equate Christianity and Islam, examine these quotes of Christ and Mo the Pedophile.
A good way to see the difference between Christianity and Islam is to compare the words of Jesus Christ with the words of Mo the Pedophile.
Here's a few samples of that :
1. Jesus Christ - "Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you, and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely, on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven."
Mohammad - "And slay them wherever you find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter".
2. Jesus Christ - "..if anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also..."
Mohammad - "Will ye not fight a folk who broke their solemn pledges, and purposed to drive out the messenger and did attack you first ?"
3. Jesus Christ - "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."
Mohammed - "Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies of Allah and your enemies, and others besides whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know."
The contrast couldn't be more stark.
A good way to see the difference between Christianity and Islam is to compare the words of Jesus Christ with the words of Mo the Pedophile.
Here's a few samples of that :
1. Jesus Christ - "Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you, and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely, on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven."
Mohammad - "And slay them wherever you find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter".
2. Jesus Christ - "..if anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also..."
Mohammad - "Will ye not fight a folk who broke their solemn pledges, and purposed to drive out the messenger and did attack you first ?"
3. Jesus Christ - "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."
Mohammed - "Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies of Allah and your enemies, and others besides whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know."
The contrast couldn't be more stark.
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"Bring my enemies before me so that I may kill them." --- Jesus
"I bring not peace but the sword." --- Jesus
Great man of peace you got there. :giggle:
"Bring my enemies before me so that I may kill them." --- Jesus
"I bring not peace but the sword." --- Jesus
Great man of peace you got there. :giggle:
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