Obese People: 2 Airline Seats for the Price of 1

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For diabetics it is even worse, since several of the medications that they take cause weight gain. Being heavy makes the disease worse, treating the disease makes you gain weight. Nice, huh?

Some of the medicines help a diabetics body process glucose so it won't be in the bloodstream doing damage. So glucose that was being excreted is being processed into fat when using medications like insulin and metformin.
 
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For diabetics it is even worse, since several of the medications that they take cause weight gain. Being heavy makes the disease worse, treating the disease makes you gain weight. Nice, huh?

Some of the medicines help a diabetics body process glucose so it won't be in the bloodstream doing damage. So glucose that was being excreted is being processed into fat when using medications like insulin and metformin.

Diabetics really do have a hard time losing weight. My wife is one and is insulin resistant.
 
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I can only imagine that this could get some people into a vicious cycle. To get rid of their thoughts of embarrassment and perhaps guilt and sadness, a lot of people likely eat away their troublesome emotions. This would of course further the problem :(
I read that depression is one of the cause of obesity. And sometimes, it can be a sign of malnutrition. It will be hard to cure since most obese have a hard time dieting since they will deny that they are obese and just say that they are healthy.
 
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I read that depression is one of the cause of obesity. And sometimes, it can be a sign of malnutrition. It will be hard to cure since most obese have a hard time dieting since they will deny that they are obese and just say that they are healthy.
90% of fat people are the first to know they are fat. They may not say it, but they know it. One problem with low income people losing weight is food cost. Check out the price of healthy food against the price of stews and pasta. They even charge more for tomato juice without salt.:(
 
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90% of fat people are the first to know they are fat. They may not say it, but they know it. One problem with low income people losing weight is food cost. Check out the price of healthy food against the price of stews and pasta. They even charge more for tomato juice without salt.:(

They do charge more for healthy foods but from the people I know who are overweight, it's not the regular grocery store food that's the biggest problem - it's the frequent mcdonalds and kfc trips that do it and those are like $5-10 a meal. If you were to cut out the fast food and the junk from the grocery store, plus have a lower overall intake of food, I don't think the price would be more - probably it would be a little less.
 
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They do charge more for healthy foods but from the people I know who are overweight, it's not the regular grocery store food that's the biggest problem - it's the frequent mcdonalds and kfc trips that do it and those are like $5-10 a meal. If you were to cut out the fast food and the junk from the grocery store, plus have a lower overall intake of food, I don't think the price would be more - probably it would be a little less.

Not here. We have not eat in any restaurant in over 10 years. My mother may send the 2 of us a dozen little White Castle burgers two or three times a year.

I do our grocery shopping and healthy is much higher. I hope you never have to really know what being old and sick feels like.
 
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I do our grocery shopping and healthy is much higher. I hope you never have to really know what being old and sick feels like.
Yes. It will costs mich higher if you will buy the ingredients on a grocery then cook it on your own than buying one in fastfoods.

Take for example, spaghetti. If you go to a grocery, you need to buy pasta, tomato sauce, cheese, ground beef, hotdogs and more. It will cost over $30 if you will cook for a party. Whereas if you will buy it on a fastfood or restaurant, $30 will have more than you needed.
 
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90% of fat people are the first to know they are fat. They may not say it, but they know it. One problem with low income people losing weight is food cost. Check out the price of healthy food against the price of stews and pasta. They even charge more for tomato juice without salt.:(

People who aren't fat do act as if the people who are really don't know that they are, and if someone just told them how to eat better, that would solve the problem. It isn't nearly that simple. For one thing, once you create a fat cell it never goes away, and is always there, craving to be filled up. More importantly, there are a lot of psychological factors involved.

One is that a great many people just really don't care. When faced with a choice between never having ice cream or cake or fried chicken or a burrito from Taco Bell, and being thin, thin basically doesn't have a chance.

The health effects are usually something that is going to happen fairly far in the future. Telling someone at 21 that they will die ten years earlier if they don't lose weight doesn't mean much. They can barely imagine being 25.
 
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One is that a great many people just really don't care. When faced with a choice between never having ice cream or cake or fried chicken or a burrito from Taco Bell, and being thin, thin basically doesn't have a chance.
Well... Most of the kids nowadays liked eating friend chicken, and other fatty foods. So most of them do get fat and can be considered as malnutritioned. Even though they looked like healthy, the truth is, they don't eat nutrious foods that is needed by the body.
 
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Love all the bad stuff and I raised myself a whole dedicated following of fat cells. Now I have been thin at various times in my life and it was great in terms of sexual attractiveness, but other than that, no thank you very much.

I am fond enough of fast food, but really good recipes made out of high quality products are my joy and undoing. Right now I'm hunting around the Philippines for locally grown vanilla beans (which I have heard do exist) so I can make high quality ice cream. I mean Haagen Dazs ice cream goes for 8 bucks a pint here. Ouch!

As for a good meal, shrimp in cream sauce over noodles, heh heh, that's my sort of diet food! And follow it up with a mango crepe drenched in amaretto flavored whipped cream.

Yeah, faced with eating "appropriately" and being thin would really suck.

(Please note my avatar, yes I am one on various levels)
 
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Love all the bad stuff and I raised myself a whole dedicated following of fat cells. Now I have been thin at various times in my life and it was great in terms of sexual attractiveness, but other than that, no thank you very much.

I am fond enough of fast food, but really good recipes made out of high quality products are my joy and undoing. Right now I'm hunting around the Philippines for locally grown vanilla beans (which I have heard do exist) so I can make high quality ice cream. I mean Haagen Dazs ice cream goes for 8 bucks a pint here. Ouch!

As for a good meal, shrimp in cream sauce over noodles, heh heh, that's my sort of diet food! And follow it up with a mango crepe drenched in amaretto flavored whipped cream.

Yeah, faced with eating "appropriately" and being thin would really suck.

(Please note my avatar, yes I am one on various levels)
Think that would be some ice cream to die for. I remember when I was a kid and we still had ice cream made of quality products. These days, even Haagen Dazs does not taste like anything. Milk is also not like it used to be. Sigh ..... :)
 
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Yes. It will costs mich higher if you will buy the ingredients on a grocery then cook it on your own than buying one in fastfoods.

Take for example, spaghetti. If you go to a grocery, you need to buy pasta, tomato sauce, cheese, ground beef, hotdogs and more. It will cost over $30 if you will cook for a party. Whereas if you will buy it on a fastfood or restaurant, $30 will have more than you needed.

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I can get a can of spaghetti for .79. But either way it is going to make you fat. Starches jack up peoples blood sugar too.
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I can get a can of spaghetti for .79. But either way it is going to make you fat. Starches jack up peoples blood sugar too.
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Here, you can even get a ready to cook spagetti or noodle soup for less than 50 cents! Isn't that awesome? But it will surely make you fat and malnutritioned if eaten everyday.
 
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I can get a can of spaghetti for .79. But either way it is going to make you fat. Starches jack up peoples blood sugar too.
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Can't think of anything more revolting than canned spaghetti. Are you referring to the ones in tomato sauce, as they have an awful sugary type of taste to them. I also think the noodles have MSG in it. I can deal with a certain amount of toxic food, but when I have noodles, it has to be prepared from scratch. I particularly like the way the Koreans prepare their noodles as part of chicken soup. :shy:
 
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I can deal with a certain amount of toxic food, but when I have noodles, it has to be prepared from scratch. I particularly like the way the Koreans prepare their noodles as part of chicken soup. :shy:
I have seen that on a tv documentary. Not only Koreans but also Japaneses. They prepare it so early in the morning and serve it fresh on the customers. No chemicals or preservatives added.
 
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Can't think of anything more revolting than canned spaghetti. Are you referring to the ones in tomato sauce, as they have an awful sugary type of taste to them. I also think the noodles have MSG in it. I can deal with a certain amount of toxic food, but when I have noodles, it has to be prepared from scratch. I particularly like the way the Koreans prepare their noodles as part of chicken soup. :shy:
The best thing about the caned stuff is they leave the garlic out of it. I hate that stuff. I also like Mexican food much better than Asian.:)
 
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I spent most of my youth trying to gain weight, and I think I was pretty judgemental about overweight people then. And that has certainly come home to roost.

Our minds respnd to patterns, or we would never get anything done. But doing that tends to put people in boxes. If you are tall, you must play basketball. If you play football, you must be dumb. If you are a pretty woman, likewise, especially if you are blond.

A woman doctor told me a story about checking in on a patient in the hospital and finding a family so grateful that the nurse they had asked for had arrived. Of course, he had been standing in the room for several minutes, totally ignored.
 
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Leave out the garlic? Yikes! And what is wrong with MSG? Darn good stuff and I apply it liberally (my apology to all you conservative posters) in many of my dishes. It got a bad rap years ago and has suffered ever since. None the less, it is just fine and helps your taste buds enjoy umami.

Fresh is always better and now that I'm only working part time, I should make my own egg noodles. I don't, but I should. Did I mention that among my many fine qualities, laziness is often featured?

DodgeFB, I love the Mexican stuff too. Particularly if you can get it a bit more "authentic" than say Taco Bell (which I will occasionally visit when the opportunity presents itself). Like Thai food, I have to watch how far I go on the spicy side of things, but their food is often superb.
 
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The big thing about MSG is that so many people are allergic to it. I had chiles rollenos for dinner tonight.
 
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