Palestinian statehood bid at the UN

Aug 2011
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Nonsense

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Great comment posted under the video:
You do realize that most of the Jews in Israel are Mizrahi & have inhabited the land for centuries, while the "Palestinians" are really just a mix of Syriac, Bedouin and Jordanian people?
Most of the land that was Israel pre-1967 was purchased by Jews from absentee Bedouin landlords. Israel declared their independence and offered citizenship to Arab inhabitants. Some took it, & those who did get more humanl rights than they would in any Arab country other than perhaps Lebanon.

Complete and utter nonsense! This is following the historic revisionism of the Eretz Israel crowd who have not bothered to actually include much fact in their analysis.

1. The Mizrahi were in very small numbers in Israel/Palestine from about 500 A.D. until 1880 when the Zionist movement began to gather steam and Jewish immigrants started to arrive in sizeable numbers.

2. The Palestinians are indeed a heterogenous people, but left out were those descended from Crusaders (but who cares about Christians), Philistines (particularily along the coast), and even Edomites, Moabites and Canaanites. And then there are the Samaritans, who were Jewish heretics and many of who converted to Islam. The real point is that the people in question have lived there for hundreds of years or even (depending on the family) for thousands of years.

3. Perhaps half of the land settled by Jews pre-1967 was purchased from its owners, but most were NOT bedouins but rather absentee Turks and Arabs who had Palestinian sharecroppers and feudal laborers on 'their' property. The rest of the land was mostly appropriated from the lands of Palestinians who fled from the Israelis in 1948 (and I won't get into a debate about why). Varying levels of compensation were paid (from reasonable to none), but the key part of this process was that the Palestinians were forbidden from reoccupying their property after the war.

4. Those Palestinians who were smart enough not to flee and who lived in the 1948 to 1956 borders of Israel were indeed made Israeli citizens, but it is amazing how difficult it is for such a citizen to serve in the IDF in a nation where service is usually compulsory (the one exception being the Druze, who have a cozy relationship with the Jewish majority). As badly as they are treated, I would argue the Copts in Egypt are better off than the Palestinian citizens of Israel.
 
Oct 2011
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It is an Irony ...

How can you get statehood when you have no state?

Mistress and its lover demand that Palestinians (Which is not a state as they are seeking recognition in UN) recognize the Mistress as state.

Just imagine the how much bloodshed goes on for that small piece of land. Mistress kills ~1000 Palestinians for each killed on its side but still complains. They worry about Palestinian homemade rockets which are more or less symbolic while Mistress uses US made Missiles and tanks to destroy the Palestinians.
 
Feb 2011
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Canada
Guess who had the West Bank before Israel went in? Jordan did. There was never any Palistinian state there. This whole propoganda thing about a Palestinian state is a farce. I wish the Jews would just crush them and be done with it.

Love the Jews, do you? I have demanded of my government arms for the Palestinian cause. Israel needs to be pushed into the sea.
 
Feb 2011
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USA did not exist before either. It was created by exterminating the natives of Americas by criminals/outlaws banished from Europe. Europeans were fed up with them and wanted to keep them away from them. So, best way was to snatch land from Palestinians in Middle East and relocate them from Germany and other parts of Europe.

The Natives were 'exterminated'? *ROTFLMAO* American propaganda is most amusing.
 
Feb 2011
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Canada
No, I am someone who tries to look at things objectively and not on party lines. Both parties are often wrong. I realize that. You choose to play into the game which benefits the special interests groups and allow them to continue to steal from me, the country, and ironically you too. You just don't realize it because you are sooo into supporting team GOP and team "conservative" that you've forgotten to consider if the game is even being played correctly.

On a side note, why are you so afraid of the word liberal? Not only do terms such as liberal and conservative vary in definition depending on who you are speaking too, but they change over time. More importantly, it is actually the issues and policies that affect people, not the monikers. This is why I try not to label myself as any of them- it really doesn't matter and usually just creates confusion. I wonder if you knew the founding fathers were considered liberals of their time (now considered classical liberals) and on the scale of world history even you would be considered liberal for your support of democratic government.

Leftist? You are an outright ****ing COMMUNIST.
 
Mar 2009
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Love the Jews, do you? I have demanded of my government arms for the Palestinian cause. Israel needs to be pushed into the sea.
And I am sure your government always caves in to your demands!
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