Romney surges- tied race once again

myp

Jan 2009
5,841
50
After a while of Obama leading the polls, Romney is back. Some recent polls including today's by Reuters have the two candidates very close to one another. Some of it is obviously from Romney's good performance in the first debate.

Where do things go from here?
 
Jul 2009
5,893
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Port St. Lucie
They're not tied. That's like saying a football game is tied a week before it's played because they're both at 0 points. These are opinion polls that have nothing to do with the election (people are fickle basterds).
 
Oct 2012
300
21
Flower Mound, TX (In the basement.)
None of these current and recently past polls are anywhere near accurate. They have a built in false bias from the 2008 election.

Despite the great and best efforts of the MSM, Romney is ahead in this election.
 

myp

Jan 2009
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Despite the great and best efforts of the MSM, Romney is ahead in this election.

Oh boy, another conspiracy theory?

Maybe in Texas it seems like it is Romney far ahead, but I don't know. Here in Maryland it is the opposite- Obama seems to be far ahead but we both live in very one-sided states (although my part of Maryland is more of a toss-up than the Baltimore, etc. area which is very heavily pro-Obama and since they have most of the population they carry the state).
 
Oct 2012
300
21
Flower Mound, TX (In the basement.)
It's not a conspiracy, it's what is. There is a very liberal/Democrat bias in the MSM. To deny that is to be willfully blind.
 

myp

Jan 2009
5,841
50
It's not a conspiracy, it's what is. There is a very liberal/Democrat bias in the MSM. To deny that is to be willfully blind.

There are public methodologies used by a lot of these organizations too. You can try to discredit why those aren't accurate, but that is what you have to criticize scientifically, not the perceived bias of any news agency.

But anyway, Reuters isn't very partisan in my opinion and Rasmussen even has it at 48-48 today and I think that is generally a good source- I believe they were closest to the actual results during the last election if I remember correctly. (by the way Rasmussen often gets criticized for being biased conservativally/Republican)

Pew recently gave Romney a 4 point lead with a +- 3.4 point error and Gallup gave Obama a 3 point lead with a +-2 point error.

Fox News has a graph on their site with a poll by realclearpolitics that has Obama at 47.9 and Romney at 47.4. You aren't going to say Fox has a left wing bias too, are you?

Given the error percentages of all of these polls and the time left until elections, I'd say it is still very close and anybody's game.
 
Jul 2009
5,893
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Port St. Lucie
Romney wins with 320 EC votes.

lol What? If he can't win Florida (and thanks to the craziness of the TP, our idiot governor and Miami/Tampa he won't) he can't win at all. We have too many EC votes and California is solid Dem. Even if he grabbed all the swing states but Florida, California, Florida and just about every Northern and Midwestern state would still give Obama a 2nd term if only just.
 
Jan 2012
1,975
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Texas
I can't predict, this is anyones guess, obama's suporters absolutly love him. But many demacrats are not happy with him. That being said most repulicans are not excited about their cadidate either.

But most elections are about who you don't want over who you do
 
Apr 2009
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Disunited Queendom
It's not a conspiracy, it's what is. There is a very liberal/Democrat bias in the MSM. To deny that is to be willfully blind.

Please don't use the word "sheeple" or we are not going to get along, comrade.
 
Oct 2012
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They're not tied. That's like saying a football game is tied a week before it's played because they're both at 0 points. These are opinion polls that have nothing to do with the election (people are fickle basterds).

Most of the polling results I've seen suggest that Obama won the last debate based on public opinion. Am I missing something?
 
Jul 2009
5,893
474
Port St. Lucie
Most of the polling results I've seen suggest that Obama won the last debate based on public opinion. Am I missing something?

Winning a debate and winning an election are 2 different things. The only polls that actually matter are the exit polls and the election itself. The rest of these polls are little more then headline factories and pundit ammo. Between the undecideds (who at this point won't be decided until they walk into a voting booth), people answering these polls who have no intention of voting and people sabotaging polls for shits and giggles you can't trust them. That's not to say polls (scientific polls at least) aren't useful, they just suck at calling elections (except for the 2 I mentioned). How many polls had Gore winning in '00? Even the election was wrong that time (Gore won but Bush grabbed the needed EC votes).
 
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