That's simply not true. They don't attack for no reason or even religious reason. A lot of it is political and has a clear political agenda- one that does not necessarily clash with the United States or its ideals.
That aside, being okay with this sort of bombing that will kill innocent people is hypocritical and silly. You are killing innocent people- much like the innocent people in your own country and town- over nothing but flags and opinions. I assume you would find it despicable if an enemy of America wanted (or did) to attack innocent people as they did during 9/11. If so, how do you justify your hypocrisy here?
Let me just say straight out. I am no hypocrite because I have an opinion! And have no reason to defend anything.
The people they are killing for "insulting" their religion are probably not the ones responsible. When they call for attacks on "all westerners" do they give a damn if that person may be innocent? No!
If you look I defended them for their their anger. But we can't keep playing by two sets of rules. And in my opinion they do have a blood-lust for Americans. Many of them have admitted they want to kill Americans. I also stated that I just think they are silly for burning our flag. I don't know why they think that will make us go away.
What I really think we should do is pack up and leave. Just let them fight each other and they will.
You are a hypocrite if your viewpoints are hypocritical
The way I see it you either think innocent American people are somehow inherently better than innocent people of other nations or you have this hypocritical viewpoint towards innocent peoples.
An eye for an eye makes the world blind. Two wrongs don't make a right. And on and on...
If you look at what the leaders want and not the brainwashed minions, you will see it is a political message and not one where they inherently hate Americans for the sake of hating Americans. Killing Americans is only a means to try to achieve their goals and saying they hate Americans is only a means of recruitment.
Well that's different than what you said above
It all comes down to there is nothing we can do for those people. I don't gave a damn about why they kill Americans. Just that they do it. Once again we should play nice with them and like it when they kill our soldiers. Those people don't want us there. We don't want to be there. Nuff said. Let them kill each other as they have for years.You are a hypocrite if your viewpoints are hypocritical
The way I see it you either think innocent American people are somehow inherently better than innocent people of other nations or you have this hypocritical viewpoint towards innocent peoples.
An eye for an eye makes the world blind. Two wrongs don't make a right. And on and on...
If you look at what the leaders want and not the brainwashed minions, you will see it is a political message and not one where they inherently hate Americans for the sake of hating Americans. Killing Americans is only a means to try to achieve their goals and saying they hate Americans is only a means of recruitment.
Well that's different than what you said above
As for this hateful comment:
"The way I see it you either think innocent American people are somehow inherently better than innocent people of other nations or you have this hypocritical viewpoint towards innocent peoples."
What that says is if they can kill our innocent people intentionally shoes come in pairs.
We are the dumb-ass people that expect to use the same soldiers to fight and kill them and still feed them.
And I really don't need the name calling from you. I thought you did not want the insulting of members here.
Now you are coming off as hypocritical!
I will not play that game with you.
The fact that you "don't give a damn about why they kill Americans' says a lot. It says that you do not or have not thought about this logically and instead are going by just emotion. Have you ever thought that understanding their reasons and what they want and considering that in policy might not only save net lives but save AMERICAN lives?
Calling your viewpoint as hypocritical was not meant as an insult, I am sorry if you read it that way. "Hypocritical" has a dictionary definition and does not inherently have a negative connotation- I was just describing your viewpoint. That aside, again formulating policy where you understand their policy goals might save not only net lives but AMERICAN lives.As for this hateful comment:
"The way I see it you either think innocent American people are somehow inherently better than innocent people of other nations or you have this hypocritical viewpoint towards innocent peoples."
What that says is if they can kill our innocent people intentionally shoes come in pairs.
We are the dumb-ass people that expect to use the same soldiers to fight and kill them and still feed them.
And I really don't need the name calling from you. I thought you did not want the insulting of members here.
Now you are coming off as hypocritical!
I will not play that game with you.
For example, if you go with your bombing plan, kill all of them, but 20 years down the road get a uprising where the children remember what you did to their parents and do another 9/11, the net consequences for BOTH sides would be worse than if you don't bomb the innocent now if they don't do another 9/11. Generally, with every innocent death you create MORE enemies, not less.
No one said they will forget. The point is killing more innocent people won't solve anything, it will only make things worse. Again, two wrongs don't make a right. In this case they can't.
It really isn't. And you continue to refuse to acknowledge that. Especially when it comes to suicide attacks (see Robert Pape's famous paper on it), but not limited to that, terrorism by Al Queda and affiliated groups has often been driven by the policy goal of getting the US out of Islamic countries. Specifically, shutting down the US base that is on the heels of their holy place. Killing Americans if only a way to get our and naive potential recruits' attention.
Hate to break it to ya, but there is an argument that we started it, especially when we built a permanent base near their holy place. And regardless of who started it, even if we left, we would likely still get attacked if that base stays or if we don't come to some sort of agreement with them. That will not only cost lives for them, but for us. It is like two kids who keep hitting each other because the other one hit them- they will keep going until one dies unless a resolution can be made. No kid benefits from that.
And to look at it from the other side (should that base be a primary policy motive), how would you feel if someone you didn't like and didn't hold the same ideals with forcibly built a military base next to your house/holyplace/capital even though you didn't want them there? Perhaps China or hell perhaps Al Queda themselves. After a while you'd probably get mad enough to start attacking them too.
Unfortunately it is US policy right now that that base is permanent just like the hundreds of other bases we have and maintain. We decided to be an empire a while ago.
That will not happen. Too many here want our money to be spent here. They are waking up to the thought that we can't "help" these people. They are stuck a couple of hundred years in the past. We should have just left them there. But now many of them want to go back.
Back when I first learned how the Taliban treated their people I wanted to help. Well color me dumb! Some of them will welcome them back at the first opportunity. And when they do, so be it. Let them have each other.
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