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yes byut the navy seal is trained for the enviroment of hunting fellow
man whilst the caveman is trained to kill animals:smug:
whats is the difference we are looking at a face to face fist fight
it is not like he is sneaking up on him dude althought the navy seal has this program:
Swim 500 Yards
Maximum time allowed is 12 minutes, 30 seconds -- but to be competitive, you should swim the distance in at least 8 to 9 minutes, utilizing only the Combat Swimmer Stroke, sidestroke, or breast stroke. Recommended workout and training tips: Get technique training and learn to pace yourself. Try 5 to 10 sets of 100-yard swims, working on a pace that will get you below the competitive times. (Rest 10 minutes after swimming the 500 yard test before moving on to the next exercise.)
Max Push-ups
Minimum number is 42 in 2 minutes, but you should shoot for at least 100 for an average score. Do not pace yourself. Push as many push-ups out as fast as you can, but do not neglect proper form or the SEAL instructor will not count them. (Rest 2 minutes, then move on to the next exercise.)
Max Sit-ups
Minimum number is 52 in 2 minutes, but you should strive for at least 100 in 2 minutes for an average score. PACE yourself! Try doing 20 to 30 sit-ups in 30 seconds; that will put you within the 80-to-100-sit-ups range for 2 minutes. (Rest 2 minutes.)
Max Pull-ups
The minimum is eight pull-ups with no time limit, but you cannot touch the ground or let go of the bar. You should be able to do 15 to 20 to be competitive. Try a pyramid of pull-ups: work your way up from one pull-up the first set until you can no longer do any more sets, then return down the pyramid repeating in reverse order (1,2,3,4,5,6,5,4,3,2,1). (Rest 10 minutes before the last exercise of the test.)
1.5 Mile Run
Wearing boots and pants, the maximum time allowed for this one is 11 minutes, 30 seconds, but you should be able to cover the distance in 9 to 10 minutes to be competitive. Pace yourself: do not start off too fast on the first lap. Shoot for a 90-seconds quarter-mile run time around a standard high school track. Repeat this pace for six to 10 sets until you no longer have to rest in between quarter-miles.
the caveman is definetly stronger then the navy seal
his bones are definetly thicker
and he is used to taking a hit from a lot worse that a fist
and if you are going to say that a bullet hurts alot more than a spear to the shoulder than you stupid
and the frequency in which this happens is rare
Taking on a sabre-tooth tiger with a spear wouldnt be very wise would it? Probably the cavemen would make a trap...a covered pit...to catch it and then spear it from the safety of the ground above?
He could try to trap the Navy Seal by the same method but seeing as his quarry would be expecting something like that, he probably wouldnt succeed
Taking on a sabre-tooth tiger with a spear wouldnt be very wise would it? Probably the cavemen would make a trap...a covered pit...to catch it and then spear it from the safety of the ground above?
He could try to trap the Navy Seal by the same method but seeing as his quarry would be expecting something like that, he probably wouldnt succeed
as i stated earlier we are looking at face to face hand to hand combat and about facing the saber tooth tiger the tiger is much to agile for that he used this trap for wooly mammoths
it would definetly end up in face to face fight
your speculating that cavemen killed sabertooth tigers on any kind of regular basis seeing as how hard it would be. most likely greater majority of cavemen to go against the tiger died a gruesome bloody death.
false the caveman was a hunterand gatherer
who neede some source of meat where did that come from defintey not small aminals
you cant say definitly not small animals what gives you the abilityu to decide what did and didnt happen at the time. Cavemen were big but not bigg enough to make hand to hand fights with saber tooth tigers a daily or weekly occurence. Ans they were
the small animals would not provide enough meat to sufice a full grown cave man and it would take him forever to get all of enough animal to eat for meat
it is only logicial that a caveman would kill bigger animals
By caveman, I have to assume this discussion is about Neanderthals. There has been a lot of recent discoveries that seem to consistently revise the perception that Neanderthals were simply brutish dimwits who hunted saber tooth tigers and cave bears.
Their brain size was significantly larger than modern humans. Recent finds have shown that they painted artistically, and decorated their bodies. They ate plants, fish, seafood, small mammals, and birds, as well as larger herbivores such as deer, horses, rhinos, and elephants. They did not do hand to hand combat with tigers and bears, that simply wouldn't be nutritionally efficient, given the mortal risk involved in killing large predators. Large herbivores are more likely to leave fossils than plants and small game, so earlier ideas about their diet were skewed towards larger animals such as mammoths.
Neanderthals would have an advantage of arm strength, but I doubt their occasional skirmishes with other humans would give them the ability to defeat a professionally trained hand to hand expert (such as a Navy seal). Trapping large herbivores (it is extremely unlikely that they confronted them directly), wouldn't give them the skill to defeat a sufficiently trained modern human. Imho.
That is the advantage of modern humans. They are versatile. They are specialists. They are experts at learning. I certainly wouldn't put a nuclear physicist up against a caveman, but a Navy seal...
Their brain size was significantly larger than modern humans. Recent finds have shown that they painted artistically, and decorated their bodies. They ate plants, fish, seafood, small mammals, and birds, as well as larger herbivores such as deer, horses, rhinos, and elephants. They did not do hand to hand combat with tigers and bears, that simply wouldn't be nutritionally efficient, given the mortal risk involved in killing large predators. Large herbivores are more likely to leave fossils than plants and small game, so earlier ideas about their diet were skewed towards larger animals such as mammoths.
Neanderthals would have an advantage of arm strength, but I doubt their occasional skirmishes with other humans would give them the ability to defeat a professionally trained hand to hand expert (such as a Navy seal). Trapping large herbivores (it is extremely unlikely that they confronted them directly), wouldn't give them the skill to defeat a sufficiently trained modern human. Imho.
That is the advantage of modern humans. They are versatile. They are specialists. They are experts at learning. I certainly wouldn't put a nuclear physicist up against a caveman, but a Navy seal...
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The navy seal would beat a cave man in hand to hand, strength dosent compensate agility, a navy seal has more sophisticated and evolved abilitys, simply put if a cave man could beat a seal then there probably wouldnt be any type of people other then cave men. Something only slighty more developed pushed the caveman into being obsolete.
The seal could out smart the caveman as well.
Someone mentioned moral boundaries, that is irrelavent in a life and death battle, i know first hand.
The seal could out smart the caveman as well.
Someone mentioned moral boundaries, that is irrelavent in a life and death battle, i know first hand.
beyond that several cave men would team up to take out bigger animals, they used weapons and snares, they didnt just walk up and punch a lion in the face and start eating it.
They didnt survive, so they are inadaquit. Things that are stronger, faster and healthier dont die off and allow weaker slower and sickly things to flurish.
Neanderthal didn't survive because through the generations they weren't able to adapt to the changing environments and eventually became extinct. Theories have it that both neanderthal and an equivalent of modern man lived during the same time and perhaps even encountered each other during their routine migrations.
True a Navy Seal would be able to take down a neanderthal simply because of his training and ability to think quicker then the neanderthal. Brute strength does serve it's purpose and if caught, the Navy Seal would have a hard time to escape the neanderthal.
True a Navy Seal would be able to take down a neanderthal simply because of his training and ability to think quicker then the neanderthal. Brute strength does serve it's purpose and if caught, the Navy Seal would have a hard time to escape the neanderthal.
They were not able to adapt, that is a weakness
Well in an ambush situation the ambusher will always have the upper hand.
Higher reasoning is the ultimate tactical advantage, short of an ambush, and i imagine cave men could figure out how to ambush something
I doubt a cave man could defeat a Navy Seal. Those guys go through a hell of a training program to make the grade. Most do not complete it.
Agreed. Both are human, but one is extensively trained to fight with both weapons and in hand-to-hand combat. The other is simply surviving off the land. Not educated enough to build a house or count past the number of digits on his hands and feet. It'd be like saying a backwoods hillbilly could take a Navy SEAL. Not likely.
Neanderthals were short and squat with stronger arms and hands than most humans. One on one against a modern human, it would be a contest between brute strength and nimbleness with a quick mind. Against a SEAL, who, no doubt is not only stronger than the average human due to exercise and selection, but is also specifically trained to kill in hand-to-hand combat.
As most martial arts students know, be it judo, hapkido or TKD, just because an opponent is stronger doesn't mean they will win the fight.
Going off topic I know but I found this interesting....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19184370
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19184370
Give that neanderthal some martial arts training and it's be a fun fight to watch.
I think Navy seals are over estimated in their skills and that is probably more to do with daft Hollywood films building them up as some kind of super human when they clearly are not. I would have to say that I would expect a cave man to be much stronger than a modern day man.
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