The Universal Whaling Issue

DodgeFB · Apr 4, 2012

Schmidt said:
you need to calm down and think
what does it say in the constitution-humans have certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

are you a vegetarian?
do you eat meat?

if you have ever eaten a hamburger then you are encouraging the killing and eating of animals

what makes a pig different from a whale

it is about the survival of our species

Oh I am always calm and thinking. I lived the first 37+ years of my life on a farm. 95% of what I eat is meat. I like growing vegetables but I hate eating them.

I have no problem with killing and eating animals. But when they are being killed so some old fart can feel sexy I believe it is wrong. Always have felt that way and will always feel that way. I see people kill deer every year and take the head. Then leave the rest to rot. Makes them feel real powerful I suppose.

DodgeFB · Apr 4, 2012

rice_farmer said:
No Dodge that would be murder, but I’m open to that curing idea of yours. Try to think about what your going to say before you say it. And just because I’m in HONG KONG doesn't mean my views are different. :giggle:

You should not assume that I don't think. I just think different than you do.

rice_farmer · Apr 5, 2012

DodgeFB said:
You should not assume that I don't think. I just think different than you do.

Maybe in a less superior way, but yes we all think differently.

mogur · Apr 5, 2012

rice_farmer said:
Woah mogur, I didn't know you felt that way.

Nah, I often just rely on french fries. But, if I want protein, I go for peanut butter. But, that is not to say that I don't grieve for chickens and pigs. I forgot what is religiously right, but I don't think chickens have cloved hooves, and eating either pigs or cattle isn't a good thing in a lot of religions. So, I am left with carrots and celery. I really love carrots and celery, especially if it is smothered in mushrooms and thousand island. Screw those wacky religions, I like our wackey religion. Where else can you get a bush that cooks itself?

mogur · Apr 15, 2012

DodgeFB said:
Now that is a new one for me. Maybe we could mass breed people and chose who to keep and who to kill off. Heck we could experiment on some of them and have faster cures for the sick people that we want to live.

Hitler tried that. The jews were not amused. I know that you are on my side, I just want to bitch slap your enemies. And that includes the fact that I can still post here, damn. Most forums 86 me on my first post. I am in my fourth iteration. (more rum for the soldiers, less rum for the goofy presidential nominees). I know that doesn't make sense, but what the fUK, obama is a dweeb, and rummy-guy is greedy. What's new?

DodgeFB · Apr 16, 2012

mogur said:
Hitler tried that. The jews were not amused. I know that you are on my side, I just want to bitch slap your enemies. And that includes the fact that I can still post here, damn. Most forums 86 me on my first post. I am in my fourth iteration. (more rum for the soldiers, less rum for the goofy presidential nominees). I know that doesn't make sense, but what the fUK, obama is a dweeb, and rummy-guy is greedy. What's new?

Why would anyone "86" you?

You are such pleasant person and very entertaining.

Schmidt · Apr 17, 2012

DodgeFB said:
Why would anyone "86" you? You are such pleasant person and very entertaining.

thats the best joke i have heard all day
and i am actually serious about that

clax · Jun 8, 2012

DodgeFB said:
Now that is a new one for me. Maybe we could mass breed people and chose who to keep and who to kill off. Heck we could experiment on some of them and have faster cures for the sick people that we want to live.

killing people is very different than killing an animal, we call killing people with no reason murder, genocide, massacre. we call killing animals, culling, exterminate, and slaughter.

why is a whale better than a person, there is an armada of pretend do gooders wasting fuel, resources and time to protect a fish, when villages of people are massacred in the real world.

it is absurd to me to claim that it is a tragedy when an animal is culled, when there are people who are killed every day.

ii don't think it is wise to hunt things to extinction, but fishermen wouldn't do that, they want to stay in business, what is the problem here

DodgeFB · Jun 8, 2012

clax said:
killing people is very different than killing an animal, we call killing people with no reason murder, genocide, massacre. we call killing animals, culling, exterminate, and slaughter.

why is a whale better than a person, there is an armada of pretend do gooders wasting fuel, resources and time to protect a fish, when villages of people are massacred in the real world.

it is absurd to me to claim that it is a tragedy when an animal is culled, when there are people who are killed every day.

ii don't think it is wise to hunt things to extinction, but fishermen wouldn't do that, they want to stay in business, what is the problem here

Did you really think I wanted people killed? I was trying to make a point!

As for that big monster whale killer that those people keep tracking, they are not fisherman. That is a floating slaughterhouse. But people have hunted and killed many animals to extinction. So I do not accept that point.

Last point. I lived over 37 years on a farm. I know all about " culling, exterminate, and slaughter".

It is "absurd to me" to me that you had to dig so deep to come up with this post which you clearly did not understand as well as the others that have read it. Some seem to understand I was trying to make a point that killing just because you can is wrong.

David · Jun 8, 2012

Sarcasm translate badly over the internet.

The GMan · Jun 8, 2012

Those very same "researchers" who want to have the ban lifted will only succed in completely wiping out the whale species. You might think that they'll stop but ultimately money and greed will drive them to wipe out the whales.

Those hunters that just kill for sport are not hunters by any means. When you they kill a deer for it's head or antlers while leaving the rest of it to rot do so for the thrill of killing something. A real hunter will go out to kill something for it meat and fur to provide for themself and/or family, nothing would go to waste.

mogur · Jun 8, 2012

And there is nothing better than just killing for killin sakes. Sarah told me so. I am with the 'researchers' who think that all species are 'special', they all all are at the top of their evolutionary branch. A crock is no better or worse than our branch of evolution, they survived, as we did. They were here before we were, but who cares? We eat crocks for a living, at least in Florida there is some job security in crocks.

clax · Jun 12, 2012

DodgeFB said:
Did you really think I wanted people killed? I was trying to make a point!

As for that big monster whale killer that those people keep tracking, they are not fisherman. That is a floating slaughterhouse. But people have hunted and killed many animals to extinction. So I do not accept that point.

Last point. I lived over 37 years on a farm. I know all about " culling, exterminate, and slaughter".

It is "absurd to me" to me that you had to dig so deep to come up with this post which you clearly did not understand as well as the others that have read it. Some seem to understand I was trying to make a point that killing just because you can is wrong.

Why are whales so special, why do we give them more humanity than a cow? There are less of them, but they harvest less of them.

I think that the sea "Shepards" cause more whales to be killed. They use a ship to put a cavitation in the whaleing vessal, making them have to stop and restart the ship which takes up to 15 hours, and causes the captured whale to spoil, so they through the unuseable whale over board and slaughter another one.

Japan has been catching whales and using them for millinia, some dirty terroristic bunch of misguided fools will never stop them. They just cause more to get killed and killed by the way in vain.

clax · Jun 12, 2012

The GMan said:
Those very same "researchers" who want to have the ban lifted will only succed in completely wiping out the whale species. You might think that they'll stop but ultimately money and greed will drive them to wipe out the whales.

Those hunters that just kill for sport are not hunters by any means. When you they kill a deer for it's head or antlers while leaving the rest of it to rot do so for the thrill of killing something. A real hunter will go out to kill something for it meat and fur to provide for themself and/or family, nothing would go to waste.

People and whales have existed in their current state for millinia, if the nubers are going down then we should conserve the species and have seasons that could be regulated by a wildlife group. If the species is dwindleing because it is not reproducing then it is already extinct. The existing ones will die and that will be the end.

Most hunters eat the meat, guts bones blood skin eyes and othe organs are waste, most people dont et that stuff and that is most of the deer, they may keep the skull and hide after eating the flesh to make a trophy but every hunter throughs out the garbage

clax · Jun 12, 2012

mogur said:
And there is nothing better than just killing for killin sakes. Sarah told me so. I am with the 'researchers' who think that all species are 'special', they all all are at the top of their evolutionary branch. A crock is no better or worse than our branch of evolution, they survived, as we did. They were here before we were, but who cares? We eat crocks for a living, at least in Florida there is some job security in crocks.

To further your point, the croc kills other creachers to make its living, sure all it needs is food, but the croc was adapt to its environement, people have to do more things to exist, we need houses because our bodies are vonerable to the elements, so therefore we need to earn money to perchase things, and in some places that means harvesting animals for their monitary value. Imagine making it illegal to posess consume or use aligator products some people might not have a livelyhood. So it is putting animals over people.

David · Jun 12, 2012

clax said:
People and whales have existed in their current state for millinia, if the nubers are going down then we should conserve the species and have seasons that could be regulated by a wildlife group. If the species is dwindleing because it is not reproducing then it is already extinct. The existing ones will die and that will be the end.

Most hunters eat the meat, guts bones blood skin eyes and othe organs are waste, most people dont et that stuff and that is most of the deer, they may keep the skull and hide after eating the flesh to make a trophy but every hunter throughs out the garbage

People tend to have issues with killing sapient beings.

Cerise · Jun 12, 2012

Hunter? Why do we need to hunt animals? Surely if you want to ingest a dead creature then there is more than enough supplied through farming.

chris7375 · Jun 12, 2012

Cerise said:
Hunter? Why do we need to hunt animals? Surely if you want to ingest a dead creature then there is more than enough supplied through farming.

I use to hunt it is for the sport of it and helps control populations from getting to big. Though I do not agree with over hunting a species nor a species that is been ban by most if not all country's.

Cerise · Jun 12, 2012

I don't like the idea of hunting and sport being used in the same phrase

clax · Jun 13, 2012

Cerise said:
Hunter? Why do we need to hunt animals? Surely if you want to ingest a dead creature then there is more than enough supplied through farming.

what is the difference, either some apparatus dose the slaughter or some device dose the slaughter. if you eat the flesh of an animal, it was slaughtered, processed butchered and distributed the same exact way as it would have been if i were to do the slaughtering myself. the only difference is the animals that are raised on a ranch are garinteed slaughter from the beginning and never have the opportunity to be wild.

honestly other then me knowing exactly what goes into slaughter and consumption of my meat what is the difference, is it better for one guy to do all the slaughtering.

i say there are benefits to harvesting your own meat over trusting a entity only focused on making profit. mad cow desease and horimone interfearing, ecoli, so called pink slime, and perservatives are all from this ranching industry, hunting and havesting your own wheater it is meat dairy, or vegitables allows you to be independent of the industry and allows you to save money.

again what is the difference

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