U.S. Military Soldiers Are Waking Up!
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Here here! That's what I like to hear!
Bad eyes is the only thing keeping me out of a uniform.
I understand that. They were hung up on my bad lungs and having had polio too. But I never asked for them to treat me special. Just see if I could keep up. I never had to beg out of high school PE. Some of my classmates in PE were killed fighting. That really made me feel like I should have be there too.
Why doesn't it suprise me that the 3 of you would give up your own brains to accept whatever convenient patriotic drivel you are fed?
Dont let better information educate you, lest you have to deal with the fact that your wrong and your thinking is harmful.
?Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all others because you were born in it.? George Bernard Shaw
?Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious.? Oscar Wilde
?Dissent is the highest form of patriotism. Howard Zinn
?You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it.? Malcolm X
?Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.? Samuel Johnson
?Patriotism is a pernicious, psychopathic form of idiocy? George Bernard Shaw
?If you can't get them to salute when they should salute and wear the clothes you tell them to wear, how are you going to get them to die for their country?? General George S. Patton
?Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons.? Bertrand Russell
?The love of one's country is a splendid thing. But why should love stop at the border?? Pablo Casals
?If patriotism is "the last refuge of a scoundrel," it is not merely because evil deeds may be performed in the name of patriotism, but because patriotic fervor can obliterate moral distinctions altogether? Ralph B. Perry
?Patriotism is the religion of hell? James Branch Cabell
?Patriotism is as fierce as a fever, pitiless as the grave, blind as a stone, and irrational as a headless hen? Ambrose Bierce
These americans thought they were patriotic too *L*
Goering had you guys pegged a LONG time ago ...
Dont let better information educate you, lest you have to deal with the fact that your wrong and your thinking is harmful.
?Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all others because you were born in it.? George Bernard Shaw
?Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious.? Oscar Wilde
?Dissent is the highest form of patriotism. Howard Zinn
?You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it.? Malcolm X
?Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.? Samuel Johnson
?Patriotism is a pernicious, psychopathic form of idiocy? George Bernard Shaw
?If you can't get them to salute when they should salute and wear the clothes you tell them to wear, how are you going to get them to die for their country?? General George S. Patton
?Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons.? Bertrand Russell
?The love of one's country is a splendid thing. But why should love stop at the border?? Pablo Casals
?If patriotism is "the last refuge of a scoundrel," it is not merely because evil deeds may be performed in the name of patriotism, but because patriotic fervor can obliterate moral distinctions altogether? Ralph B. Perry
?Patriotism is the religion of hell? James Branch Cabell
?Patriotism is as fierce as a fever, pitiless as the grave, blind as a stone, and irrational as a headless hen? Ambrose Bierce
These americans thought they were patriotic too *L*
Goering had you guys pegged a LONG time ago ...
Yes, but they know that when they "volunteer". "Back in my day"I remember getting my "draft" cards. I had mixed feelings when I went from 3A to 1A. Some joined when they got the 1A hoping to get a "better deal". I flunked the physical, but I was ready to go. I would go today if they would let me. But I was in much better shape then than now.
People are naive. Especially when young.
Were i given a chance to go back and do things differently, with the knowledge i have now, i would, on a moment's notice.
I also despise the draft with a passion. I'm fortunate i live abroad and Germany is united, or i could have been called for service. I would, of course, have opted for community service, since i'm entirely unpatriotic (not rare, in Germany) and oppose state-driven war.
No! A soldier does what his/her Government tells them, not what needs to be done.
I think this is were the fact that you an anarchist and I'm not finally make us disagree.
I say that we (and ArghMonkey) agree to disagree because I see no reconciliation on this issue and we otherwise get along. No need to risk that over 1 thread and I've seen it happen many times.
Yes, some people fall out over a single disagreement. Maybe this is why the left is so fractured? Though to be fair, i make an effort to remain friends with most people, even those that are often adversaries.
Besides, you're a comrade.
Very interesting posting, however I am interested, what is your point exactly? Are you saying that war is unnecessary or that the motivation for recruiting troops on the basis of patriotism is dishonest?
ArghMonkey! We do disagree on "drivel". You quoted a bunch of meaningless drivel seems to me. But you attack others because they don't agree with you.
I make my own decisions and feel no need for you or your quoted writers to tell me how I should feel. Without getting personal which I see as a weakness I will make it short and sweet.
I will fight for my family, my home and my country. I will never feel the slightest guilt for feeling that way. It has nothing to do with racism or any that BS that gets thrown into it. When I am home I have nowhere else to go. This country is "my home". My guess is that it is best you live where you do instead of in the US feeling as you do. We even had a few run up there back in another war. But when it was over they came back to government jobs while the vets were left homeless thanks to ol J. Carter.
I just don't think being anyone's doormat would help this country at all. See some of us in the US know we don't have many if any friends in this world. In some cases it is fight em or buy em. And we are broke. Time to fish or cut bait now.
I make my own decisions and feel no need for you or your quoted writers to tell me how I should feel. Without getting personal which I see as a weakness I will make it short and sweet.
I will fight for my family, my home and my country. I will never feel the slightest guilt for feeling that way. It has nothing to do with racism or any that BS that gets thrown into it. When I am home I have nowhere else to go. This country is "my home". My guess is that it is best you live where you do instead of in the US feeling as you do. We even had a few run up there back in another war. But when it was over they came back to government jobs while the vets were left homeless thanks to ol J. Carter.
I just don't think being anyone's doormat would help this country at all. See some of us in the US know we don't have many if any friends in this world. In some cases it is fight em or buy em. And we are broke. Time to fish or cut bait now.
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