After the US ditches the corrupt, illegitimate, antisemitic, and anti-American UN, it should found a United Democratic Nations. Nations interested in collaborating with the US internationally on a range of issues will be invited to join, IF they are democratic nations. As more nations join, the UN will fade in importance. Lack of membership in the UDN will make it clear what a country is. Part of the UDN charter will state that no non-democratic government has a right to exist.
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So what about nation in which democracy simply doesn't work such as tribal societies or in nations where people want strong even authoritarian gov't (such as Russia)? Saying any nation that isn't democratic has no right to exist is itself undemocratic as it ignores self-determination.
So what about nation in which democracy simply doesn't work such as tribal societies or in nations where people want strong even authoritarian gov't (such as Russia)? Saying any nation that isn't democratic has no right to exist is itself undemocratic as it ignores self-determination.
Besides people will ust stay as part of both organisations.
So what about nation in which democracy simply doesn't work such as tribal societies or in nations where people want strong even authoritarian gov't (such as Russia)? Saying any nation that isn't democratic has no right to exist is itself undemocratic as it ignores self-determination.
No human being wants to be dictated to. The human heart longs to be free. Even tribal cultures have a sort of loose democtratic construct: People approach the elders with grievances and so forth.
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We're pack animals, treat a person with dignity and most everyone would happily live in an authoritarian dictatorship. It's when dictators become malevolent that their people rise up. Being free, while the common excuse for such uprisings, is almost never the actual reason. Take Libya for example, when He With a Thousand Spellings was providing healthcare for all, improving water access, raising wages and generally making people's lives better the people were happy to have him. When he started treating people like 2nd-class citizens and started killing everyone who complained, he ended up getting overthrown. If democracy was the true motivation, he wouldn't have lased 42 years. Or how about the US? We wanted to make George Washington king, he wanted a democratic-republic, not the people.
You need to hang out with a different crowd.
The people I know are created in the image and likeness of God. We are not animals: We are human beings who deserve dignity.
And if you get that dignity do you really care what gov't you live under? Oh you may favor democracy but if you actually lived in a benevolent dictatorship I highly doubt yo'd take up arms and try to overthrow it. This is because we're pack animals, so long as the alpha does good my you, even if you don't get to be alpha yourself, you'll go along with it (as will everyone else).
Well, I think David was using my definition as in not the derogatory application.
You've tied yourself up in a self-contradiction - how can anyone know they want authoritarianism unless they take a democratic vote on the issue?
Not surprising coming from an obamabot, but the natural, normal state of a human being is freedom.
Because people still have mouths to talk fromYou've tied yourself up in a self-contradiction - how can anyone know they want authoritarianism unless they take a democratic vote on the issue?
Also, I hope you realize the United States is not a democracy and was never meant to be.
Because people still have mouths to talk from
Also, I hope you realize the United States is not a democracy and was never meant to be.
Sorry, people having their "mouths to talk from" doesn't represent a scientific determination that people what to live in a dictatorship, and idea that in any case is ridiculous.
Lol, you think elections are scientific? People in the mideast and other areas throughout the course of history have at times supported and believed in fundamentalist or authoritarian leaderships. The fact that there are political theories which support these things proves it in itself- if everyone believed in democracy, who would write those? For example, Karl Marx clearly didn't believe in democracy.
You used a blanket statement when you responded to David:
Don't use blanket statements unless you are completely sure- it can be a dangerous thing
You said anyone. That encompasses all people since even one person who knows they want authoritarianism or non-democracy proves your statement wrong. And I give you one person. Actually I give you many- Karl Marx and the supporters of communism. Want some more? Supporters of facism. More? Supporters of monarchy. More? Supporters of fundamentalist regimes.
Don't use blanket statements unless you are completely sure- it can be a dangerous thing
There are believers in communism who want no such thing- those whole believe in the version Karl Marx hoped to see. We even have some on this forum.
And those people might call you a social misfit and nutcase
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