The community isn't the gov't.
Through history what has been the community in socialist countries? The government. The community is just a "prettier" word, but the community needs a "controller", and that would be the state.
The community isn't the gov't.
Through history what has been the community in socialist countries? The government. The community is just a "prettier" word, but the community needs a "controller", and that would be the state.
Would you renew the license of a station that supported a coup against you? I personally draw the freedom of speech line at high treason myself.
The people are the state, not the gov't.
The community are the people. Also, lol at using a dictionary to define a complex political/social/economic view.
The traditional definition of socialism is worker control of the means of production.
So who runs and finances this? The worker too?
Yes. Why do you find this so hard to believe?
Because if that is the case, it's not a socialist run system where private persons can finance their own way. That's looked upon by socialists as a capitalist system.
You realize that the operation of a private business was a constitutional right in the Soviet Union, yes?
It's getting rich for no other reason then manipulating money, oppressing the working class, rising by stepping on the backs of others and working for nothing but capital profit rather then the profit of a better society that we socialist have a problem with. Capitalism itself isn't the issue, it's needed for socialism to work.
You also realize that Stalin murdered farmers who didn't want to give their land to the state?
Ironically he was the 1 that added that to the Soviet Constitution.
No, no one needs a controlling system for any society to work. Why is it unfair if you earn more than I do? Should your chances in life be limited, even if you compared to most other have worked harder and studied harder? There is no society without classes, we will also be different.
Nothing wrong with you having more money then me. You could have a $ billion more then me so long as you didn't steal, oppress or otherwise cheat other to get that money.
But then if that's your view on society, your views are not socialist. Your views are actually capitalist.
:giggle: I take it you've not yet realized my view are likely as conservative as your own? I am a socialist but I tend turn into a dirty rightist when the discussion shifts away form pure economics and into politics, ethics, ect. You'll learn, you'll learn.![]()
My advice to you is to stay there, once you turn into a true conservative, you never want to go back.
I used to be so conservative as to be fascist. don't think the Right is a safe place for me.![]()
Fascism is much more similar to socialism, so being a conservative believing in true economic liberty is the best human ideology.
Fascism is 3rd Way.
If you think fascism is similar to social democracy, I wouldn't mind agreeing with you.
I think we're off topic...![]()