That is how I've always seen it. I can find an island somewhere that no one else has gone to. To me it's land. Someone else comes and names it something, and then it becomes an island with a name. And I didn't discover that island, just the land.
Who discovered the United States?
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Columbus didn't name anything, all he found were a few islands and he thought he was in India.
Columbus was an idiot.
:giggle: You do have a way with words! At one time Columbus was one of the most brilliant sea navigators. He achieved quite a lot in his lifetime.
He was a genocidal, enslaving, hilariously bad administrator idiot? I don't know why people honor him.
You're kidding right? I thought that was common knowledge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Columbus#Governorship_and_arrest
Maybe you need to read the whole of the Wikipedia article. Perhaps he was not good at colonizing, but he was much more than a colonizer. He did quite a bit of seafaring, had really good navigational skills and was admired far and wide, by the United States and Latin America.
How many of the historical persons actually were really nice.. Most of them were idiots. But still did big things.
Why do you think so?
Why do you think most of the historical persons were idiots? And what do you mean when you are referring to "nice" historical people?
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He built a town, did some farming and trading with the locals and left. I'd love to see what so bad about that according to you. :giggle:
"Real" as in what media, and what is "media"? Asiatics came over the land bridge to what is now Alaska. The first recorded North American white birth was a Viking kid named "Snorry" in the 900's according to at least one historian. Columbus landed south of what is now the US. Among Euros the Brits controlled north-east North America, Russians controlled the north-west and Spain controlled much of the south. America wasn't discovered, it was created politically.
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If I brought in the "media" it was along the lines of there was no one to witness and photograph the actual "first arrivals" as the "media" tends to do. Most of it was word by mouth. Sometimes there is a problem to figure out whether the word of mouth is fact or fiction. Columbus's arrival was well documented during his time. You are correct that people assumed he arrived on the Coast of what is now the United States, probably because people in New York decided to celebrate him in meaningful ways, and then started to call a number of historic places after him. The Vikings are less sure. More of a supposition. If you refer to historians, who are they and do you have a source?
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