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Your interesting interpretation of "Free Press" is collapsing upon itself as you define it. Basically it would seem it means "No Press" or editorials instead of news.....or maybe just news you agree with which removes any semblance of "Free" for everyone else.
 
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Your interesting interpretation of "Free Press" is collapsing upon itself as you define it. Basically it would seem it means "No Press" or editorials instead of news.....or maybe just news you agree with which removes any semblance of "Free" for everyone else.

Your post here doesn't seem tied to anything I've said.

when the press is being controlled by those in power for those in power (and not the people), the free press is no more. I am specifically discussing how in this instance HRC campaign (per wikileak's revelation) exerts a great deal of control over the mainstream media.

That clearly doesn't bother you as that's your candidate.

Consider if wikileaks revealed that the MSM had given DJT editing authority over what was reported about him.
 
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Your post here doesn't seem tied to anything I've said.

when the press is being controlled by those in power for those in power (and not the people), the free press is no more. I am specifically discussing how in this instance HRC campaign (per wikileak's revelation) exerts a great deal of control over the mainstream media.

That clearly doesn't bother you as that's your candidate.

Consider if wikileaks revealed that the MSM had given DJT editing authority over what was reported about him.

It does not bother me because it is inaccurate in my experience and opinion. I would imagine this has become your own opinion because you feel that because the press shows tape of what Trump says and discusses it without worship they are obviously in cahoots with Clinton.

By the way....the election is not rigged, Trump just sucks.
 
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It does not bother me because it is inaccurate in my experience and opinion. I would imagine this has become your own opinion because you feel that because the press shows tape of what Trump says and discusses it without worship they are obviously in cahoots with Clinton.

By the way....the election is not rigged, Trump just sucks.


So when you read in Wikileaks that reporters are emailing and giving HRC camp editing authority over stories about her you believe it's inaccurate. Got it.

I'll ignore the rest of your statements here because it again doesn't pertain to anything I've put forth here.
 
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So when you read in Wikileaks that reporters are emailing and giving HRC camp editing authority over stories about her you believe it's inaccurate. Got it.

I'll ignore the rest of your statements here because it again doesn't pertain to anything I've put forth here.

I would very much appreciate you not putting your own words into my mouth...they have a foul taste.
 
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Here's my take on this whole media bias thingy. Hillarys issues are all over the news and Wiki is as well but they do not amount to much and are a bit boring. The media exists because it tends to focus on the death and destruction instead of the kitten in a tree.
Trump tends to drop a bomb every week and thus he gets the attention...he did this during the primaries as well and the media ate it up which worked well for him. Now his bombing campaign is not working very well and he wants to turn off the waterfall because of it.
It does not work that way...you CAN stop it by stopping the bombs but he simply wont do that. We all know the little kitty is in the tree but the car crash in the street is much more interesting to watch.
Personally, I don't find emails about how a political campaign is run as entertaining as grabbing pussy.
 
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Of course Fox brought it to light, but in this case when its this big even the MSM has to report it.

Fox News Just Landed A Brutal, Clean Hit On Hillary Clinton's Campaign | Huffington Post

Campaign manager Robby Mook and longtime Clinton confidant John Podesta thought the deal ― in which Clinton had committed to speak at an event for the king on the condition of his $12 million donation ― would look bad. Clinton aide Huma Abedin tried to explain that it was simply too late to back out.
“This was HRC’s idea,” Abedin wrote in an email toPodesta. “Our office approached the Moroccans and they 100 percent believe they are doing this at her request. The King has personally committed approx $12 million both for the endowment and to support the meeting. It will break a lot of china to back out now when we had so many opportunities to do it in the past few months.”
The team eventually reached a compromise. Hillary Clinton didn’t show up, but Bill Clinton and Chelsea Clinton did, and the money came through.


It is generally frowned upon for presidential candidates to be pumping foreign leaders for money, and her staff recognized it. And so they exchanged a series of contentious emails. On “Fox News Sunday,” host Chris Wallace pressed Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook on the controversy.
“Why wasn’t that classic pay-to-play?” Wallace asked.
“There’s nothing new here,” Mook replied, deflecting to Donald Trump’s sagging poll numbers.
“But, Robby, there is some new stuff,” Wallace responded. “Emails show ― and I’m going to go through some of them ― you were not happy at all the idea of this meeting and her going there.”
Mook maintained that it was all just a scheduling issue that had nothing to do with corruption or public perceptions of corruption.
“We didn’t want her going overseas,” Mook said. “I didn’t want her going overseas before the campaign was kicking off. Again, these are stolen documents.”
The federal government has indeed supported the Clinton campaign’s claims that the Russian government intercepted Podesta’s emails and passed them on to WikiLeaks.
But the revelations about the Clinton Foundation and the paid speeches both Hillary and Bill Clinton negotiated as she navigated her presidential bid have nevertheless been newsworthy. Wallace noted that while the hack of Podesta’s email was almost certainly illegal, the transmission to The New York Times of excerpts of Donald Trump’s tax returns indicating he had taken a loss of almost $1 billion was also likely a breach of law.
“They were clearly stolen,” Wallace said.
“We don’t know that,” Mook replied.
“Do you think Trump had given them [over]?” Wallace shot back.
Veteran journalist Bob Woodward didn’t leave any ambiguity about his own views regarding the Clinton Foundation.
“It’s corrupt,” Woodward said on Fox. “It’s a scandal.”
“The mixing of speech fees, the Clinton Foundation and actions by the State Department which she ran are all intertwined,” he said. “And it’s corrupt. You can’t just say it’s unsavory.”



If HRC is president, she will owe for these favors. Think about it.
 
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Reading about standard campaign crap is really boring and comes off as petty, desperate BS from people who got nothin' else.

Do you think getting foreign governments to donate millions to ones campaign is standard campaign crap?
 
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Do you think getting foreign governments to donate millions to ones campaign is standard campaign crap?

If by chance such a thing was indicated then the individual should be eliminated from contention, charged with a crime, and banned from any and all political activity. As it is not this is not relevant...Just as Mr. Trump cannot be charged because of the Russian crap.

You will of course create issues that are not there for HillBill while you ignore those of Trump...this is standard partisan thinking which has become significantly more toxic in this election cycle.
 
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If by chance such a thing was indicated then the individual should be eliminated from contention, charged with a crime, and banned from any and all political activity. As it is not this is not relevant...Just as Mr. Trump cannot be charged because of the Russian crap.

You will of course create issues that are not there for HillBill while you ignore those of Trump...this is standard partisan thinking which has become significantly more toxic in this election cycle.

It was indicated. From above post...

It is generally frowned upon for presidential candidates to be pumping foreign leaders for money, and her staff recognized it. And so they exchanged a series of contentious emails. On “Fox News Sunday,” host Chris Wallace pressed Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook on the controversy.“Why wasn’t that classic pay-to-play?” Wallace asked.
“There’s nothing new here,” Mook replied, deflecting to Donald Trump’s sagging poll numbers.


I don't ignore those of Trump. I've on several occasions noted his flaws.
 
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It was indicated. From above post...




I don't ignore those of Trump. I've on several occasions noted his flaws.

As stated, created scandal. Mr. Trumps issues are legally recognized and going to court....do you have a problem with that?
 
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As stated, created scandal. Mr. Trumps issues are legally recognized and going to court....do you have a problem with that?


We'd have to talk specifics on that point. What I showed above was specific. She sought out money from foreign leaders. That's evidenced in emails.


What specific court case of DJT are you referring?
 
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We'd have to talk specifics on that point. What I showed above was specific. She sought out money from foreign leaders. That's evidenced in emails.


What specific court case of DJT are you referring?

Pick one. rape or University.
 
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I can't see the images posted here but basically if he was found guilty of rape, and it appeared legit that would make a difference to me. With the university issue, not so much. But ultimately anyone can sue anyone.

With Hillary, the prospect of guilt for the allegations have direct consequences to the country and how she'll run things, and based on emails , she is guilty of corrupt behavior across the board. These are emails we were not supposed to see. Like the tape of DJT talking about grabbing women.

There is more truth to a thing when you are not supposed to hear it.
 
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