Palin says 2012 presidential bid could happen

[myp]

Not really the most surprising news, but Sarah Palin admitted in a recent interview that she is considering a bid for the White House in 2012 barring the right conditions. It would certainly be interesting considering her strong grassroots following and her ties to the tea parties.

source: http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/02/07/palin.presidential.run.tea.party/index.html?hpt=T2

Thoughts?

 

[GOP]

I think I'd support her if she became the Republican ticket in 2012. I feel she was really misjudged back in 2008, so if she can come back in 2012 and shows us all what she's good for I'd hope for her victory over Obama.

 

[deanhills]

I think I'd support her if she became the Republican ticket in 2012. I feel she was really misjudged back in 2008, so if she can come back in 2012 and shows us all what she's good for I'd hope for her victory over Obama.

No, no, no, noooooo ...... On what basis would you select her for a candidate? I have not seen any solid recommendations from her yet. Nor the kind of dignified and professional bearing one would expect from a person who gets selected for a Presidential candidate. It would make a joke out of the Republican Party as well.

She has made too many mistakes during her presentations as McCains Vice-President running mate including factual mistakes, i.e. Africa is a country, etc. I don't think she has anything to offer the presidency. There has just been too many controversies, and she has proven that she would be a heavy maintenance candidate for the Republicans.

 

[myp]

I think I'd support her if she became the Republican ticket in 2012. I feel she was really misjudged back in 2008, so if she can come back in 2012 and shows us all what she's good for I'd hope for her victory over Obama.

Even as a Republican, I don't think I can support her unless we see a drastic shift in policy from what the McCain platform was. She hasn't been very specific on all her viewpoints yet, but I have a feeling she wouldn't be too far from the status quo despite trying to be a big tea party person. For example, she supported TARP.

Also, I am not sure if she has what it takes to be a strong and respected leader as sometimes she has said some not-so-intelligent things.

 

[GOP]

No, no, no, noooooo ...... On what basis would you select her for a candidate?

Simply because I agree with her direction for America. Oil drilling, foreign policy, gitmo, international terrorism, free market, strict on abortion, back to having stronger relations with Israel, like under Bush and Clinton, tougher on immigration. There are so many areas where I agree with her politically that I have absolutely no interest in considering a Democrat. If the elections in 2012 wind up being between Palin and Obama, I don't I even need to think twice before I openly say I support a Palin administration.

 

[deanhills]

Simply because I agree with her direction for America. Oil drilling, foreign policy, gitmo, international terrorism, free market, strict on abortion, back to having stronger relations with Israel, like under Bush and Clinton, tougher on immigration. There are so many areas where I agree with her politically that I have absolutely no interest in considering a Democrat. If the elections in 2012 wind up being between Palin and Obama, I don't I even need to think twice before I openly say I support a Palin administration.

Perhaps the media has influenced me in a wrong way so I am open for correction. I have never seen Palin's "direction for America". Can you cite some reports on this, as I would like to read up on those.

 

[GOP]

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Glob...ael-settlement-expansion-attacks-barack-obama
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/04/palins-evangelical-faith-drives-pro-israel-view/

- Her views on Israel


http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/10/16/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5389817.shtml

- Her on oil drilling

Couldn't find any concrete article about her on Gitmo, but if you look for the interview on the Bill O'Reilly show at FOX News she openly supports gitmo being kept open for terrorists.

A rather interesting article from the Guardian, British newspaper: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/30/johnmccain.palin2
It covers death penalty, liberal gun relations and anti-abortion. Three key elements to the American society.

 

[deanhills]

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Glob...ael-settlement-expansion-attacks-barack-obama
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/04/palins-evangelical-faith-drives-pro-israel-view/

- Her views on Israel


http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/10/16/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5389817.shtml

- Her on oil drilling

Couldn't find any concrete article about her on Gitmo, but if you look for the interview on the Bill O'Reilly show at FOX News she openly supports gitmo being kept open for terrorists.

A rather interesting article from the Guardian, British newspaper: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/30/johnmccain.palin2
It covers death penalty, liberal gun relations and anti-abortion. Three key elements to the American society.

Thanks for the links. I must say that I did not know that she was so outspokenly pro-Israel, which possibly in its own could be a criticism, as one would want to have President who does not openly support one group of people over another. Typically if she should root so loudly for Israel, that would get the Arabs to be upset with her. I'm happy she is a supporter of Israel, as I admire Israel just as much, however perhaps it has been indiscreet of her to flaunt it so much, unbecoming someone for the position of the Presidency.

I like her policy about oil drilling. I have always wondered about this as the United States is importing so much oil from the rest of the world. I thought that this could be a deliberate move to safeguard their own reserves for when it is necessary later. Perhaps there is someone else from Political Fray who may be able to comment on why there is not that much oil drilling ongoing, relative to the import of oil from Canada and the rest of the world.

What I did pick up in the article on her interview by Barbara Wallace, was that there always seems to be controversy following her dealings with the media. One could possibly say that she is still learning and may be better later, but one of Obama's strongest points, and probably even winning points was his master at making the media work for him. Palin seems to be a master at getting the media to work against her. So if she is to be a President one day, it would make it difficult for her to get the media to help her with her agenda.

 

[David]

I like her policy about oil drilling. I have always wondered about this as the United States is importing so much oil from the rest of the world. I thought that this could be a deliberate move to safeguard their own reserves for when it is necessary later. Perhaps there is someone else from Political Fray who may be able to comment on why there is not that much oil drilling ongoing, relative to the import of oil from Canada and the rest of the world.

Because it's stupid. The stuff will run out so why wast out time when we can just switch to something else now? And then there's the economic devastation oil drilling would bring to places like my state, Florida. It's just a bad idea.

 

[deanhills]

Because it's stupid. The stuff will run out so why wast out time when we can just switch to something else now? And then there's the economic devastation oil drilling would bring to places like my state, Florida. It's just a bad idea.

Hmmmm ..... how about oil drilling in Mississippi? Would take care of their financial dilemma? I have always wondered whether there is oil there. Not that far from Texas?

Wonder whether Palin is hoping on drilling for oil in Alaska, and that that is where her idea of oil drilling had been formed?

 

[David]

Hmmmm ..... how about oil drilling in Mississippi? Would take care of their financial dilemma? I have always wondered whether there is oil there. Not that far from Texas?

Wonder whether Palin is hoping on drilling for oil in Alaska, and that that is where her idea of oil drilling had been formed?

Oil revenues in Texas in in the millions. Their budget is in the billions. It's a total waste of time unless your in Big Oil.

 

[deanhills]

Oil revenues in Texas in in the millions. Their budget is in the billions. It's a total waste of time unless your in Big Oil.

Like in Calgary, Canada? Which is where most of the US oil is being imported from?

 

[David]

Like in Calgary, Canada? Which is where most of the US oil is being imported from?

The only part of our oil industry that makes since is our refinement deal with Venezuela. Everything is ether a money drain or the profits don't justify the damage done.

 

[deanhills]

The only part of our oil industry that makes since is our refinement deal with Venezuela. Everything is ether a money drain or the profits don't justify the damage done.

Ahaa, so then I can ask you, as I have been wondering about this. It would appear that the United States has been decreasing its imports of oil from Venezuela over the last three years. The last year has been a significant difference. Do you know what the reason would have been for this? Could it have been a form of sanction against the Venezuelan Government?

 

[David]

Ahaa, so then I can ask you, as I have been wondering about this. It would appear that the United States has been decreasing its imports of oil from Venezuela over the last three years. The last year has been a significant difference. Do you know what the reason would have been for this? Could it have been a form of sanction against the Venezuelan Government?

Well the 2nd World has recovered from the fall of the USSR and realigned itself with Venezuela and Brazil. A cold war hasn't started (we're too focused of Iran) but diplomatic issues have arisen as would be expected.

 

[deanhills]

Well the 2nd World has recovered from the fall of the USSR and realigned itself with Venezuela and Brazil. A cold war hasn't started (we're too focused of Iran) but diplomatic issues have arisen as would be expected.

So is that then the reason for less oil being imported from Venezuela?

 

[David]

So is that then the reason for less oil being imported from Venezuela?

Politics, yes.

 

[GOP]

Thanks for the links. I must say that I did not know that she was so outspokenly pro-Israel, which possibly in its own could be a criticism, as one would want to have President who does not openly support one group of people over another. Typically if she should root so loudly for Israel, that would get the Arabs to be upset with her. I'm happy she is a supporter of Israel, as I admire Israel just as much, however perhaps it has been indiscreet of her to flaunt it so much, unbecoming someone for the position of the Presidency.

I'd happier if she was even louder on a support for Israel. It's a tradition for the United States to support Israel's policies in the Middle East, now Obama is breaking this relations to pieces with his demands for what Israelis should do, that's absolutely none of his business. It's important for the United States to be clearer about its position in this region, instead of being an unstable president.

I like her policy about oil drilling. I have always wondered about this as the United States is importing so much oil from the rest of the world. I thought that this could be a deliberate move to safeguard their own reserves for when it is necessary later. Perhaps there is someone else from Political Fray who may be able to comment on why there is not that much oil drilling ongoing, relative to the import of oil from Canada and the rest of the world.

I agree with you on that. Although as others have mentioned it's a lot of oil drilling down south, but far from enough and this is something the United States need to expand instead of wandering into fantasy land like Obama has.

What I did pick up in the article on her interview by Barbara Wallace, was that there always seems to be controversy following her dealings with the media. One could possibly say that she is still learning and may be better later, but one of Obama's strongest points, and probably even winning points was his master at making the media work for him. Palin seems to be a master at getting the media to work against her. So if she is to be a President one day, it would make it difficult for her to get the media to help her with her agenda.

CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN - all indirect supporters of the Democratic Party (especially NBC!) and also NY Times and LA Times. So yes, Sarah Palin has a big task to go raise above the childish tactics of the media and be who she really is. The drill baby drill slogan woman from Alaska, a supporter of American culture and tradition, and she is most definitely among the few politicians in the United States back in 2008 who showed me that she understood what the American society, thoughts and ways of living are all about.

 

[deanhills]

I'd happier if she was even louder on a support for Israel. It's a tradition for the United States to support Israel's policies in the Middle East, now Obama is breaking this relations to pieces with his demands for what Israelis should do, that's absolutely none of his business. It's important for the United States to be clearer about its position in this region, instead of being an unstable president.

Isn't that just political posturing however? In reality Israel has a very powerful support in the US, especially too in the administration itself?

CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN - all indirect supporters of the Democratic Party (especially NBC!) and also NY Times and LA Times. So yes, Sarah Palin has a big task to go raise above the childish tactics of the media and be who she really is. The drill baby drill slogan woman from Alaska, a supporter of American culture and tradition, and she is most definitely among the few politicians in the United States back in 2008 who showed me that she understood what the American society, thoughts and ways of living are all about.

The media can't be completely wrong either. If it was just one incident, that would have been OK, but if she is to run for President she would need to be much more savvy and insensitive to dealing with them. Obama would be excellent to learn from in this regard, as an extreme example, as for me he sometimes sacrifices good stuff with trying to please people too much.

 

[GOP]

Isn't that just political posturing however? In reality Israel has a very powerful support in the US, especially too in the administration itself?

Sure it does, but this shows that Obama still doesn't want go give up on his own personal thoughts:
http://wcbstv.com/local/obama.united.nations.2.1203733.html
99.9% of the American population can be great Israel supporters, but as long as Obama is president it's very damaging to the American-Israeli relations.

The media can't be completely wrong either. If it was just one incident, that would have been OK, but if she is to run for President she would need to be much more savvy and insensitive to dealing with them.

The majority of media channels clearly supported Obama, of course it would be in their interest to hurt and degrade Palin.

Obama would be excellent to learn from in this regard, as an extreme example, as for me he sometimes sacrifices good stuff with trying to please people too much.

That's his problem! Obama has some few good policies, but everything he does is overshadowed with his unrealistic beliefs for the world. Dialogue, dialogue and let's have even more dialogue. He's the dialogue president.