JFK assassination and the CIA

[7forever]

1. Misses car, likely intentionally to signal the car turned on Elm. Kennedy reacts to the sound first and Connally right after.

2. Bullet comes through windshield. Watch Connally react to it passing his head. The shooter very likely was located on the South knoll.

3. Connally said somewhere that when he saw the film with frames, he named 234 for the shot that hit him from the rear.

---4 second pause like seen in movie.

4. Greer fires fatal shot.

5. A dummie/distraction for Greer fired arguably from the north knoll. Moorman's affadavit along with other evidence supports this nicely.
This excludes the Kennedy back shot which is questionable at least.

 

[7forever]

3 gunshot wounds for sure happened with two hitting jfk.

1st shot misses very likely from behind.

2nd wound comes from south knoll.

3rd shot hits Connally from rear. Is that the same shooter that missed around 160?LOL

4th and fatal shot fired by Greer.

5th shot is a grassy shot fired for confusion. How many shooters is that?LOL

Each gunshot wound was fired by a different shooter plus the dummie shot from the north knoll. That's at least 4 shooters and my work pulls from alot of available evidence and agreed upon shots from the government and researchers. No evidence Greer is anything but...no one is supposed to know he fired the fatal shot.

 

[7forever]

Originally Posted by local
remembers thanking you months earlier for posting this thread.

I totally agree with you but I can't believe people in real life get so up tight when you bring up that greer shot him. It's like you are committing blasphemy but saying that the gov't doesn't always tell us the truth.

I don't know why people get so upset, if God had something to do with the death I would understand because weak religious people can't argue a point, but it was just black and white and people still get riled up at me.
<---First time conspiracy theorist

Thanks, for the support. It's not supposed to be true but obviously is. Before my obsession with the Zfilm no person proved it beyond any doubt.

 

[DodgeFB]

I don't think most people even think about it anymore. This has been argued and picked apart for years and years. I remember the day it happened. I am not sure that most people even care now.:unsure:

 

[7forever]

What Kyuubi is saying, the damage to JFK's head was caused by a high velocity supersonic bullet, which can only be achieved by a rifle. A hand gun, which you claim Greer used (38 revolver) is subsonic and would not cause the damage seen and discribed to JFK's head. I brought this up to you on another web site and you ignored it. The damge to JFK's head was caused by the tempoary cavity which is created by a supersonic bullet, increasing pressure in the head causing the head to explode.

In case you haven't noticed, people here are getting uptight and upset with the facts I have posted over and over. They are ignoring and denying visual facts. Just what is it you think your denials mean more than nothing? What is it you hope to prove beyond your simple denials of visual facts? This is a conspiracy site and I bumped a thread about the driver found from a google search. You all know that Greer killed Kennedy after reading this thread but post as if it's not important but it clearly is based upon the supposed one thousand books that have been published in less than 50 years. The driver killing Kennedy is the most obvious untold truth in american history, certainly in regards to blatant government wrong doing.

 

[7forever]

So his wife never noticed the driver turning around and shooting her husband in the face? Or you think she did notice and just kept quiet about it?
Seriously........get a brain.

So, his wife never noticed the driver turning shooting her husband in the face because she was looking at her husband. Or do you think she did notice even though she wasn't looking in Greer's direction?LOL YOU PEOPLE ARE COMPLETELY STUPID.
Seriously........get a brain.

HAHAHA

 

[David]

Why is it that you have to argue with people that aren't members of this forum? Can't stand up against their arguments?

We keep pointing out how you're ignoring common sense and the laws of physics yet you keep babbling on like an idiot. I'd feel sorry for you if you a bit more respectful, as is... :giggle:

 

[obtuseobserver]

I don't think most people even think about it anymore. This has been argued and picked apart for years and years. I remember the day it happened. I am not sure that most people even care now.:unsure:

they do care... I live in Dallas and people who visit very often want to drive by the spot or go to the book depository

I worked in a DAs office on homicide prosecution. Bullets do weird things. They tumble they break apart they change direction. This usually has to do with the target being in motion, the difference in the density of material through which the bullet passes, rate at which it expends its energy etc.

Oswald shot Kennedy. Oswald acted alone.

 

[DodgeFB]

they do care... I live in Dallas and people who visit very often want to drive by the spot or go to the book depository

I worked in a DAs office on homicide prosecution. Bullets do weird things. They tumble they break apart they change direction. This usually has to do with the target being in motion, the difference in the density of material through which the bullet passes, rate at which it expends its energy etc.

Oswald shot Kennedy. Oswald acted alone.

I am sure many people do care. Especially in and around Dallas. But around here it seems that people have gotten tried of the arguing about conspiracy theories.

Sad to say, I hear more people in the last 10 years wish the president (Bush/Obamma) would be shot than thinking about one that was shot. That doesn't say much for us does it?:unsure:

 

[7forever]

rsol Wrote:
YOU HAVE IGNORED EVERYTHING SAID TO YOU.
I have bothered to take some time with you but that is it. im secure in the knowledge you are merely spamming here as you just keep repeating the same thing over and over. there is no gun. there is your imagination, your ego and your sycophants. i suggest you talk to them.
YOU HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED AND HAVE CHOSEN TO IGNORE IT. That will not make you correct.
You insist on throwing more and more gifs into your argument as tho they are proof. please spam some other site and maybe take out the unchallenged bit. 6 pages of thread is not agreement. your logic is lacking even in the basics and you cling to excuses for anything pointing this out. shame on you.
I was right in my initial judgements. you are NOT original. you have not researched this even to any real degree... you make false claims repeatedly on this thread even after shown your error.
spam, rinse, repeat, spam, rinse, repeat.
You are not debating, merely advertising.
Spam. and it will be reported as such..

YOU HAVE IGNORED EVERYTHING THAT PROVES GREER'S GUILT AND CLEAR EVIDENCE OF FILM ALTERATION.
You bothered to deny facts because you are a board troll who can't stand that I'm right about the most obvious untold truth in american history. You are secure in the knowledge that I am right and you will run like a little bitch and tell Mommy.LOL

You merely deny facts here as you just keep repeating the same thing over and over. There is a gun and the Zfilm was heavily altered to hide it and Greer's movements which killed Kennedy. You're a whiny little baby who can't stop himself from being properly mocked.
YOUR DELUSIONS (whatever they are) HAVE BEEN THOROUGHLY DESTROYED AND YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO IGNORE THAT FACT.

You insist on denying visual facts over and over and throwing more bullshit at the wall.
I was right in my initial judgements. You are NOT original. You have not researched anything in this case but make false claims repeatedly in this thread after being shown proof of Greer's guilt.
You are not debating, merely denying visual facts.
I don't give a **** what you report. You have done nothing but deny and ignore facts that are irrefutable

 

[7forever]

(Today 07:41 AM)rsol Wrote:
this is what i mean by a lack of ideas. now you are childishly repeating my words.

well done for not dropping more gifs.

I deny your "facts" because you are trying to sell a blob as a gun.

I deny that a man putting his hand up and onto the steering wheel in order to turn his head easier is what "passing a gun" looks like.

You cant just decide what is on the screen and just keep repeating it hoping it will finally sell. not on this forum anyway.

what evidence of film alteration?

This is what i mean by your lack of any challenge and posing faux authority and simply lying. I am mocking you, you twit.

You deny the "facts" because you have no defense against what Greer is doing in zapruder and nix which proves he was the shooter and the zfilm was altered to hide that fact.

You deny that Greer passed the gun before he turns the first time even though it is happening. You deny that his hand hand/arm cross in nix which proves the zfilm was altered to hide those movements which killed Kennedy. YOU ARE DENYING VISUAL AND IRREFUTABLE FACTS.

I can and did point out what has been ignored for 47 years and use it to prove Greer was the shooter.

Overwhelming evidence of film alteration which you are required to ignore because you are a beaten idiot on a little message board.

 

[7forever]

rsol Wrote:
you are mocking yourself mate.
This is what i mean. repeat that again could you? i didnt qiute catch it the first 20 times...
I dont deny greer passed the gun. there is nothing to deny. your logic is flawed. you keep repeating it but still nothing.
I can and did point out what has been ignored for 47 years and use it to prove Greer was the shooter.
and I DID tell you this has not been ignored. its been looked at and shown to be bullshit. you are obviously not interested in information against your mindset.
WHAT EVIDENCE OF FILM ALTERATION?

You are mocking yourself mate.
This is what I mean. You can't beat me and certainly cannot do anything more than ignore everything that rapes your delusions.
You dont deny greer passed the gun. You finally tell the truth about a visual fact. You keep denying reality and it's still lying.

I can and did point out what has been ignored for 47 years and use it to prove Greer was the shooter.
It has been ignored and what I've articulated in the last 18 months is new. You are obviously not interested in information against your mindset. YOU ARE AN IDIOT but are too stubborn to stop posting.

 

[myp]

Keep it civil everyone, there is no need for name-calling; it doesn't help anyone's argument.

 

[obtuseobserver]

see, many of us enjoy watching fools bitch slapping one another

 

[7forever]

WATCH THIS GIF...WATCH HIS RIGHT HAND MOVE TO HIS LEFT.

THE ONLY STORY left to tell is what I've posted in this thread, destroying the movie and an industry full of LYING conspiracy authors who are ironically the most responsible for keeping the truth from the masses.
GREAT GIF showing his right to left movement. Keep your eyes through the windshield.

FRAME 278 is the last clear view of the fitted gun in Greer's left hand. Logic dictates that Greer would not have put his hand back on the wheel only 2 seconds before he was gonna shoot Kennedy. It's common sense that he moved the gun from lower position in a similar way to resting it on his chest, so all he had to do was raise, straighten and shoot over the seatback. There was no wild motion, flailing of the gun. The gun was rested near his right collarbone before he turned the second time at frame 302 to shoot.
FRAME 278- You can see the fitted gun from frames 242-278 except 64/65 because of the lamp post.

 

[7forever]

Quote:







Originally Posted by bravodelta

Although mostly everyone agrees that there had to be more than one shooter. I'm pretty convinced that the driver was one of the assassins. There is footage out there that I saw that shows a hand and gun and a puff of smoke coming from the driver. Anyone seen it?



I don't mean to brag but I turned to be the researcher who picked up where Cooper and Newcomb left off. There is no smoke that I'm aware of but my most significant discovery is showing Greer's left arm crossing over in the nix film. This is the smoking gun of smoking guns.

 

[7forever]

Quote:







Originally Posted by bravodelta

Although mostly everyone agrees that there had to be more than one shooter. I'm pretty convinced that the driver was one of the assassins. There is footage out there that I saw that shows a hand and gun and a puff of smoke coming from the driver. Anyone seen it?



This is the closest I got to showing gunsmoke. You can see the fake white extend in unison with the fake red mist.

 

[7forever]

NO WAY!!! Look how clear that last picture is. There's no way you could say that's anything BUT a gun.

Look how clear that last picture is. There's no way you could say that's anything BUT a gun. You are finally coming around. My Mama didn't raise no dummie.:giggle:

 

[Kyuubi]

In case you haven't noticed, people here are getting uptight and upset with the facts I have posted over and over.

People would get a little uptight after you posted about 50 times in a row with material that you could have annoyed people less with by putting it all into one. I swear to god I spend time debating the crooks in some of the 9/11 conspiracies, and even the Pentagon flyover kooks aren't that annoying. No offense but you're not convincing people anymore with 50,000 repetitious posts anymore than you are with everything in one. In most forums your actions would be a breach of their MA regardless of any credibility you claim to have.

They are ignoring and denying visual facts.

7forever, let me introduce you to one of my favorite kicks. See this:

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/451/1238970139182a.jpg

What is the relevance of this? Well, for starters it involves the same thing you're doing. You isolated a freeze frame and cherrypicked it to exploit an optical illusion in the footage.

In my little example above, closer inspection reveals that the images consist of fruit products, whose presentation on-screen gives the optical illusion of viewing "accessories."

Likewise, upon closer inspection, your footage shows what I told you over a month ago; it's not a hand with a pistol, it's the passenger moving his head in the footage. Beyond making for a cruely morbid **** brix demotivational poster with the eye trick it plays there's nothing you've posed to suggest it's what you claim it is. Furthermore your supposed video analysis is absolutely amateurish.

You all know that Greer...

You are not in any position to determine for people what they do or do not know. For one your accusations that people are "denying visual facts" is blatantly untrue and transparent, in fact the circumstances are quite different. You "want" to be right; you want to "believe."You want to believe in the driver shooter so badly you'll overlook even the most basic of errors in order to reach your desired conclusion.

I am sure many people do care. Especially in and around Dallas. But around here it seems that people have gotten tried of the arguing about conspiracy theories.

I don't follow many CT's regularly, so I have only this and the 9/11 ones to compare with, but 7forever's activity most closely resembles the habits of CIT's pentagon flyover theories. Out of all the "sub theories" in these two areas that I've seen, the greer shooter version, and the CIT north of citgo theories represent some of the most absolutely stubborn people I've ever seen, stubborn as in, debate's not really an option; they're just "debating" to project themselves onto other people.

 

[porsteamboy]

7Forever is a Fanatic Narcissist.